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Putting together a modeling tool kit. Whatchya all suggest?

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Putting together a modeling tool kit. Whatchya all suggest?
Posted by cuzimthedad on Saturday, March 21, 2009 5:27 PM
Okay, I'm getting back into the hobby after 30 years and want to get up to speed tool wise. Money is not an issue as I believe good tools are half the battle. I would like recommendations on what I'll need to get started and also for a good air brush and compressor...something without to much of a learning curve. Thanks in advance! Dan
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Posted by Satori on Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:10 PM

One suggestion.

For knives. Instead of buying xacto type art knives, get 9mm snap off utility knives.
Not only can you get blades made with better materials for those, you can snap off the dull blades more often (all knife blades will go dull) and always have a sharp knife to use for much less costs.

This place has some hard to find japanese modeling tools. (not my store, I bought from him and was pretty happy with what he had to offer)
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Muramasas-Closet_Tools_W0QQ_fsubZ624440012QQ_sidZ7586852QQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em322

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:49 PM
well, I do alot of modding and scratching with my builds, and a few tools which are indispensible to me are, A my pin vice, b my dremel, c my hobby saw, and last but not least a set of files.

 

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Posted by Satori on Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:59 PM

I use a nail sander. Dremels are pretty fast and sometimes too hot.

And glues, the right adhesive for each job.

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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:36 AM
This is an area where you will receive a lot of advise. Mine is to start by reading this, this and this which should cover it pretty well. Your are also welcome to read through the other articles I posted.

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

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Posted by Division 6 on Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:47 PM

Some of the basics have been mentioned others have not.


Hobby knife

Files

Pin Vice

Razor Saw 

Low tack tape (Blue Painters, Tamiya Model, Shure Tape Razor Edge, Frog)

Rubber Bands

Small Clamps (assorted types)

Metal Straight Edge

Assorted Glues (Model, Ca, Epoxy, Solvent)

Assorted Brushes

Paints

Putty (Squadron, Bondo, etc) 

Pencils & Pens (for marking)

Sand paper and sanding sticks 

Dremel Type Power Tool  with assorted tips

 

For Air Brush get a good double action

I prefer top feed myself and use a Iwata HP-C 

Other things can be added as time goes on like decal setting solution, sprue cutter, PE bending tool(s), Epoxy Putty, etc...

 

Eric... 

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Posted by mg.mikael on Monday, March 23, 2009 9:38 PM

 cuzimthedad wrote:
Okay, I'm getting back into the hobby after 30 years and want to get up to speed tool wise. Money is not an issue as I believe good tools are half the battle. I would like recommendations on what I'll need to get started and also for a good air brush and compressor...something without to much of a learning curve. Thanks in advance! Dan

My fellow modelers already covered the common tools, but I reccomend looking into dental tools(since I've gotten them I don't know how I lived with out them). Dental tools have precision ends and have a number of uses for every tool. You can find them at scientific stores, or even your friendly neighborhood dentist.

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, March 23, 2009 10:13 PM
I'm with Mikael on that, the majority of my throw away brushes, for like mixing paint and things like that, working with glue, are dental bruses for dentures and braces, there small but there firm enough to do detail work, I lovem.

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:53 PM
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Posted by Jim Barton on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:02 PM

For getting started, you probably don't need to have as elaborate a tool set as many of us. Just the basics will probably work for now: a hobby knife (with plenty of extra blades), small round and flat files, sanding sticks, glues, paints and brushes, some kind of putty applicator for filling seams (I use a separate knife with a dulled #11 blade); a small ruler or square. You probably don't need the Dremel tool or the fancy airbrush right now; obtain them as the need arises. This is how my tool kit came together: one saw, one pin vise, one whatever found its place on my workbench over time. You may eventually wind up with a bunch of things that you don't use very often, but when you want them...Easily half my tools fall into that category. Clamps and clothespins--you can't have too many of those! You will definitely need a good light! (Don't have to worry about light pollution on the workbench.Smile [:)]) I use a fluorescent desk lamp with a daylight-spectrum tube. Incandescent Reveal bulbs are good too, but my problem with incandescents is the heat they produce tends to make paint dry too fast as I brush it on. (This may be in part because I live in hot, dry Phoenix.)

If you can set up a separate workbench for modeling vs. using the dining room table, that would be best, too. Preferably with a lot of storage space--you can never have too much storage space! Or buy a fishing tackle box (get a large one, like the Flambeau Outdoors Model 2059 Hip Roof Box--this thing has no fewer than seven storage trays. One of these days, I've got to learn to use a digital camera so I can post photos) if you have to use the dining room table and need a place to store tools.

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Posted by paintsniffer on Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:56 AM

Stay away from the power tools... They can ruin weeks of work in seconds.

Good Brushes. I have some that I think are from Gunze that I like

Good sprue cutters

A selection of knives.. I think I am up to 6, almost all with different blades.

Small files

Pin Vise and bits

thin, medium, thick super glue (known as CA)

A tool box that is far bigger than you think you will need

Lead fishing weights

Modelling clay

Sand Paper (variety)

Sanding sticks (variety)

Razor Saw.. I think my is from JLC or something

Sheet Styrene (even if you aren't a scratch builder you will need it eventually)

Drafting Pencils (for marking stuff)

Self-healing cutting mat

A selection of tweezers and forceps.

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Posted by cuzimthedad on Friday, March 27, 2009 1:59 PM
Thanks for all the great replies and links folks!
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Posted by CNicoll on Friday, May 8, 2009 7:39 PM

Great lists from lots of people above.  Just to add to your list of things to look at Smile [:)] try these on for size.  They are all at MicroMark but I'm sure you can find similar items most places you like to shop.  I added this to keep this message short.  The sanding pads I use ALL THE TIME along with the sanding sticks.  You will find a lot of use for the sissors as well.  Happy shopping!

 

QUICK CURE ZAP, 1 OZ.       Item #: 80875
SLOW CURE SLO-ZAP, 1 OZ.       Item #: 80879
ZIP KICKER SUPER GLUE ACCELERATOR, 8 OZ. LIQUID Item #: 80885
5-PIECE MICRO CLEANING BRUSH SET great for airbrush cleaning
    Item #: 82149
MINI PLASTIC 3 " CAPACITY CLAMPS (SET OF 2) 7" great for 1/48 bombers and 1/35 armor.   Item #: 60930
5-PIECE FLEX-PAD SET       Item #: 70239
SOFT TOUCH PAD SET (SET OF 6) my favorites!
  Item #: 81601
ECONOMY KNIFE SET (surprisingly useful)       Item #: 83545
#11 SIZE SAW BLADES, .010 " x 40 TPI (PKG. OF 2) these are saw blades, good for opening doors, etc also removing parts from resin bases.
  Item #: 14346
PHOTO-ETCH SHEAR       Item #: 81308
FLUORESCENT MAGNIFIER, 5 " DIA. 1.75x MAGNIFICATION LENS  I have old eyes. :-)
Item #: 82718
TOOL ORGANIZER       Item #: 60295
SPIN-O-TRAY ROTARY TRAY       Item #: 82476
MODEL 40 CARROUSEL ORGANIZER for all your paint
  Item #: 83149
STAINLESS STEEL DISSECTING SCISSORS   Item #: 14177
5-PIECE STAINLESS STEEL TWEEZER SET probably one of the most useful sets I have   Item #: 60365

 

On the bench:  Academy 1/72 B-17G 'Blue Hen Chick';  1/48 Tamiya Mustang III; Kitty Hawk 1/32 P-39. 

Completed:  1/48 Tamiya P-51D Mustang - 'Show Bird', 1/32 Dragon P-51D  Flying Tigers 'What if'; 1/32 Tamiya P-51D Big Beautiful Doll

Group build:1/48 Tamiya Mustang III; 1/48 Tamiya P-51D Show Bird

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, May 11, 2009 10:49 AM

Stay away from the power tools... They can ruin weeks of work in seconds.

Power tools don't ruin work, it's the Tool using it that ruins work... A Dremel or other motor tool, although not essential, is one that will leave you wondering how you ever lived without it..

That said, here's my list, aside from the standard knife, blades, side-cutters, razor-saw, and such:

Mini bench-vise. Get one that clamps or screws to the bench.. The suction-types don't work.

"Extra Hands" soldering tool with magnifying glass.

Soldering pen.

Miter box

Pin vise w/bits.  Buy several of each size.  You WILL break the ones that you use the most.

Bench light

2x reading glasses or opti-visor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by CNicoll on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:28 AM

Micromark has this on sales for less than $4.  Item #: 83545.  Cheap way to get 3 handles and some starter blades to tryout. :-)

 

ECONOMY KNIFE SET

On the bench:  Academy 1/72 B-17G 'Blue Hen Chick';  1/48 Tamiya Mustang III; Kitty Hawk 1/32 P-39. 

Completed:  1/48 Tamiya P-51D Mustang - 'Show Bird', 1/32 Dragon P-51D  Flying Tigers 'What if'; 1/32 Tamiya P-51D Big Beautiful Doll

Group build:1/48 Tamiya Mustang III; 1/48 Tamiya P-51D Show Bird

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Posted by Huxy on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:34 PM

When I work with putty (Both for filling and sculpting) I use Games Workshop Citadel's Sculpting Tool. I do reccomend it!!!

 

For putty;

I use Tamiya Putty Basic Type for gap filling ad such, and Games Workshop's "Green Stuff" for sculpting...

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Posted by SofaKings on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 7:02 PM
Great thread and great suggestions.  I'm in the same boat.  Getting back into it after 30 years removed.  Models look a lot more complicated than in the late 70's early 80's!
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Posted by rabbiteatsnake on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:55 AM
Its a poor craftsman indeed, who blames the tool. thats for hans v, one of my fav tools is a little cajigger i got some fifteen yrs ago. Don't know what its called, its a sprung plastic handle wedge shaped on one end round at the other, a thin belt of emory cloth wrapped around it. surprisingly versital, when the emory clogs roll up a clean spot, this action also keeps the belt clear. you can buy them from Micro Mark.
The devil is in the details...and somtimes he's in my sock drawer. On the bench. Airfix 1/24 bf109E scratch conv to 109 G14AS MPC1/24 ju87B conv to 87G Rev 1/48 B17G toF Trump 1/32 f4u-1D and staying a1D Scratch 1/16 TigerII.
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Posted by Dr. Coffee on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:13 AM

Have tweezers been mentioned yet?

I prefer the fine-point ones (I bought from a jeweller's tool store; I know Taiya sells some similar stuff). If I were given the choise, I'd prefer tweezers with rough (not serrated!) grips, but so far I've only found tweezers with serrated or polished grips.

Doc 

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:55 AM
 CNicoll wrote:

Micromark has this on sales for less than $4.  Item #: 83545.  Cheap way to get 3 handles and some starter blades to tryout. :-)

 

ECONOMY KNIFE SET

 Four bucks?!  Nuts!!  I picked that very set up at a flea market last year for five, I got taken!

But that leads me to my suggestion, about where to find tools, apart from the online or bricks-and-mortar stores.  I look at flea markets, I've found someone at pretty much any one I've gone to, selling:

Dental picks and probes, and also stainless steel scissors and tweezers/forceps

Small file sets

Steel rules (straight edges), which are useful

Rotary tool bits, both single pieces and in sets

 

Also look around if you happen to visit expositions and shows for builders or woodworkers.  You can probably find someone there who sells tools in bulk, and if you do, it pays to rummage through the tables.

Having said that, I agree with all of the previous suggestions, I have at least one example of each of the items listed.  I'll add that you may want to get a good container for your tools, like a small tool box or a tackle box.  I use a pine tool box that I got at Dick Blick's, but I wanted that, so I could stain and finish it.  It has a liftout tray with two compartments, and that's where most of my small tools go, and then I have a store of paints in the main compartment.  Of course, there's stuff I have that is out on the bench most of the time, but generally I try to put everything that I can away when I'm finished for a session.

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Posted by dubix88 on Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:47 AM
I think someone already mentioned this but clothes pins are great.  You can cut the end to shape them for your needs,flip the wood part around, stick a coupld together, all sorts of things.  Quite possibly some of the best clamps I have, and also great for holding small parts while I paint them.
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Posted by Mic on Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:48 PM

Most every tool has been mentioned; I have a few that are much less used, but invaluable nonetheless, when needed. Trick is to hit the store as soon as you discover the need for a tool, and buy 2 more while you're there. Working the models will leave you with mental lists of things to get / look for the next time you are tool shopping. If you don't see it, make it yourself. Then, tell us about it.

However, one tool not yet mentioned, that I think would be wise to get into the habit of using, is your digital camera. Open up a free image hosting site, such as Photobucket, and start taking your in-progress shots. Post those shots here, and let the advice from the group come pouring in. The folks on this forum are here to help and be helped. Posting pics, and taking the comments back to the workbench, will speed up your learning curves, and improve your modeling skills very quickly.

Just my humble 2¢.

 

 

Steve M.

On the workbench: every tool, paint, brush, glue I own

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Friday, July 24, 2009 8:08 AM

I noticed lead fishing weight's mentioned here, presumably for nose weights?

As an alternative, you can use self adhesive automotive tyre balancing weights, they come in handy strips of 2x5Gr + 2x10Gr + 2x20Gr & are of course self adhesive.

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Posted by styrene on Friday, July 24, 2009 1:24 PM

Bandaids... Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

Also consider:

Straight and curved hemostats (mosquitoes), a set of fine pliers (including long needlenose), straight and/or curved iris scissors, small 6" metal ruler (metric/inch), fine curved and straight pointed forceps, and a dial or digital caliper.  When looking for hemostats and forceps, make sure the two closure ends 1) meet together (aren't offset), and 2) close completely (no gaps).

Gip

OOPS! Seems forceps, metal rulers, and scissors were already mentioned.  Sorry.  I will now report myself to the Committee on Redundancy Committee.

 

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