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PE work tools-recommendations? Update! Bug has arrived!

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PE work tools-recommendations? Update! Bug has arrived!
Posted by jimbot58 on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:47 AM

I have trying to work photoetched parts (for 1/72nd aircraft models) using the razor blade on a sheet of glass method, and find this to be increasingly frustrating due to my ever changing (for the worse) eyesight and increasing stiffness in my hands due to the aging prossess...I'm begining to think that investing in a PE bending tool might make a big difference to me. I know some say they get by with the original method but it looks like I need all the help I can get.

The main two I have run across are the Etchmate, which looks to be fairly simple, but made of some composite material, or The Small Shop's products. I considered their "Bug" model, but then read a unfavorable review that said the "fingers" tend to deform over time to where they will no longer grip the part.(The reviewer did say that "The Small Shop" did replace his model when this happened, but still...) They have other models, but prices do go up from there. Are these my choices? Or are there any other sources/manufactures to look at? Your thoughts and opinions are valued! Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

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Posted by Ali1kj on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:14 AM
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I  would not worry about the Bug fingers bending, that reviewer is ham fisted and has obviously over tightened the tool a lot !!

 I used to make these and the Bug hardly ever failed, when the few that were returned (about 10 in 3 years)  they were always replaced.  When inspected, they had always been over tightened. In single numbers we accepted back Bugs with manufacturing faults where the head unit was badly milled, this did not effect the fingers strength however.

 Hold & Folds are instruments NOT clamps, use a vice if you have neolithic hand like him.

All you need is gentle pressure, the reviewer knew that but he still, well who knows why ?

 

Not now connected with the product

 

Alasdair
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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:08 AM

Check out my blog posts about the subject Pt I  Pt II  Pt III  I like the benders from The Small Shop, here is The Bug.

 

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

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Posted by jimbot58 on Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:37 AM
Thanks for the info guys, I truely appriciate it. I think "The Bug" would would be an ideal fit for me as I would be unlikely to require anything larger working in 1/72nd scale. They do have an economy model but it seems to be a bit too basic. Not to mention...EVERYTHING AT THE SMALL SHOP IS NOW ON SALE AT 10% OFF! If only the sale will continue through my next payday!

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Posted by *INDY on Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:29 AM

~Jimbo, You mentioned your eyesight too. I'd say you could get even farther with one of these

 

 

Th Donagan IS the Opti-visor it's completely worth the $30 somthing dollars. I personally prefer the # 4 lens ( which is actually a 2X lens ) they break down like this:

Item No. Focal Length Magnification
LX-314 Inch 1.75x Power
LX-410 Inch 2.00x Power
LX-58 Inch 2.50x Power
LX-76 Inch 2.75x Power

I agree the #10 is too much magnifacation to really work. That $20 copy at hobby-expo is ok,unless you've ever tried one of these babies.  Here's a link to the maker:

http://www.doneganoptical.com/optivisorlx.php   Theres an entire thread going in the forum about these, and Ill tell ya' seeing the little P.E. parts makes all the difference. I've got the Etchmate 30 from Mission Models(micro-mark and others sell it) just because it was the best priced, (those others may be sturdier?) BUT, I'd reccommend you get a nice set of small pliers, for little PE parts, 2 pairs of pliers works great. HomeDepot sells a killer Husky6 piece  set for around $10 . I like anything that saves my hands & eyes. Optivisor and many choices of small pliers and tweezers might get you farther than that high$$ PE tool. 


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Posted by jimbot58 on Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:34 AM

It's not my eyesight...they just make everything smaller now days......way smaller!Smile [:)]

 

Just too many of these------->Happy B-Day [bday]

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Posted by Gigatron on Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:32 AM

I've been using The Bug for the last year or so and I've got to tell you, it's really changed my approach to PE.  I used to dread having to do complex folds, but now, it's almost a pleasure.  And it works just as well in every scale from 1/72 to 1/32.

Now, I may just have to start looking into some of those opti-visors.  Not because my eyesight is going, but because everything else is getting smaller.  I'm sure it would help with my detail painting, as well.

-Fred

 

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Posted by jimbot58 on Thursday, November 19, 2009 3:01 AM
Egads! Now that my payday is only a day away, I see that The Small Shop has sold out of "The Bug" tools! My local shop offers 2 choices-one being the "Etchmate" which is a bit beyond my budget and something called "Mr. Fold" or "Mr. Fold-it" for under $20 bucks. I don't know how good it is for that price, but my heart is set on "The Bug". I hate to spend $20 now and then another $40 when my choice again becomes available. I have searched some of the on-line suppliers and haven't really seen anybody who might stock it.....what to do? I am in the middle of my F-22 cockpit and have managed with difficulty so far, but.....

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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:00 AM
They'll have them in stock again soon. Drop them an email, to check when, they are great people to work with.

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

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Posted by Gigatron on Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:01 AM

I don't know much about this place, but they list it in stock  http://www.micronart.com/Bendingtool.html 

What's weird is that they refer to it as the kalama bending tool and The Small Shop is located in Kalama, Washington.  So it's either the real deal, or a really good knock-off.  Looks exactly the same as my known, genuine, Bug.

-Fred

 

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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:09 AM
Kalama Precision Machine is the parent company of The Small Shop. This retailer must list them under Kalama instead of TSS.

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

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Posted by Gigatron on Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:53 AM

 HawkeyeHobbies wrote:
Kalama Precision Machine is the parent company of The Small Shop. This retailer must list them under Kalama instead of TSS.

Ahhh....thanks for the clarification, Gerald Cool [8D]

-Fred

 

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Posted by jimbot58 on Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:49 PM
Just looked and they are already back in stock!

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Posted by jimbot58 on Friday, November 20, 2009 3:23 AM

UPDATE!

Paycheck Deposit received- Big Smile [:D]

"Bug" order placed- Propeller [8-]Party [party]

Now...wait!Boohoo [BH]

 

The interesting thing is that the bug is now showing as out of stock...must have grabbed the last one thay had in stock.Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Friday, November 20, 2009 9:49 AM
It will arrive probably sooner than you think. Mine came First Class mail which only takes a couple of days.

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

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Posted by jimbot58 on Friday, November 20, 2009 9:02 PM

 HawkeyeHobbies wrote:
It will arrive probably sooner than you think. Mine came First Class mail which only takes a couple of days.

 

Thank goodness, though I guess the F-22 cockpit will have to wait a few days...***SIGH***

Guess I'll just have to work on the Intruder...or the Blackbird...or one of the other dozens of projects I have going......Cowboy [C):-)]

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Posted by jimbot58 on Monday, November 23, 2009 9:17 PM
Home from work and found my new "Bug" waiting for me in the mailbox! I think that was pretty d*mn good! I ordered it Friday around 1:00 a.m. and by 6:00 p.m. Monday, my order's in my hand! Barely two woking days if you consider the weekend. Now I cant wait to try it out, but have to wait 'til after dinner and all that total nonsense!

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On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:08 PM

 jimbot58 wrote:
Home from work and found my new "Bug" waiting for me in the mailbox! I think that was pretty d*mn good! I ordered it Friday around 1:00 a.m. and by 6:00 p.m. Monday, my order's in my hand! Barely two woking days if you consider the weekend. Now I cant wait to try it out, but have to wait 'til after dinner and all that total nonsense!

Have you used it yet?

ENTIRELY as a result of the discussion in this thread, I ordered on about a week or so ago (I might be the reason you initially got 'Out of Stock' - Sorry!! Tongue [:P]).  Just like you, I got what I consider to be great service - I think I ordered it on Thursday night (probably close to 7:30) and I had it in my hands on Saturday!

I messed with it a bit, did a couple folds on some scrap PE, and I'll tell ya, I am a happy shopper....

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by IHATEALASKA on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:44 PM
Got my bug last night.  I love it.  Well worth the money and the fact that it only took a week to get it up here too Alaska is awsome.  What do you think of it?
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Posted by jimbot58 on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 2:54 AM

Yes, I did! The pieces I tried it out on was a couple of parts that, on the fret, looked like a sort of a three pronged tree. When formed it makes a curved bar. It was really simple to me to fold the two sides towards the center and then I had to tack it to a piece of tape to hold it while I worried the center flat part up in a curve to meet the two sides. I had to use the tape because it was so narrow, the fingers of the tool were too wide to fit. Without this tool, it would have been a nightmare I think.

I like the contruction of it as it is all metel, and that gives it some heft. With the rubber feet, it stays firmly in place. I have only used it once, but I am liking it already! Maybe there will be more PE projects in the future now! 

By the way, the shipping box did come labeled as "Kalama Precision Machine" and the instructions do say "Manufactured by Kalama Precision Machine for The Small Shop" And a big ole' sticker on the bottom that says "Made In USA"Big Smile [:D]Yeah!! [yeah]

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On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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