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PE benders
Posted by mrmike on Monday, January 25, 2010 11:07 PM

It's time to get serious - I need a good photoetch bender to do a bunch of fiddlies on a 1/32 Hasegawa P-47 I'm building for my Dad. I've seen a few brands discussed here and in FSM, but have no way of comparing them. Can I get some advice from more experienced modelers?

Thanx!

mike

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Posted by CuriousG on Monday, January 25, 2010 11:16 PM

If you do a search here you will find several threads discussing the merits of  several models of PE benders, as well as folks espousing nothing more complicated than a pair of needlenose pliers.

That said, you can't go wrong with anything from the Small Shop. http://www.thesmallshop.com/

I've had the 5-Speed Hold and Fold for a few years and really like it. Their Bug has a lot of loyal users as well. Good prices, great customer service, quality-built product.

George Ireland

"If you can't learn to do it well, learn to enjoy doing it badly."  - Ashleigh Brilliant

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Posted by Gigatron on Friday, January 29, 2010 8:08 AM

The Bug, from The Small Shop.  No need to look any further - unsurpassed customer service.

-Fred

 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Friday, January 29, 2010 8:11 AM

I'm going to echo the two previous comments.  You absolutely CANNOT go wrong with the Small Shop.  Their customer service is superb.  Like the two other replies, I'd specifically recommend the Bug.  Great little tool, reasonable price, versatile. 

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Friday, January 29, 2010 8:27 AM

The Bug!   Without a doubt.

 

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Posted by mrmike on Saturday, January 30, 2010 1:29 PM

Four out of four makes it unanimous - the Bug it is. Went to the Small Shop site as suggested and looked at the reviews. Very informative! I'm ordering one, and looking forward to learning how to use it. Once again. thanx for the advice.

 

mike

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Posted by FastasEF on Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:55 PM

Not to say you guys are wrong, I'm just wondering what's so significant about the Bug over say, the Etchmate 3C? I have the 3C and just by looks, the Bug just appears to be a bit smaller. Maybe it has two(?) more ... teeth(?). Or is it just a personal preference thing? I've heard tons of good things about the Bug, I'm just being a pain and curious.

Josh

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Posted by bbrowniii on Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:59 PM

FastasEF

Not to say you guys are wrong, I'm just wondering what's so significant about the Bug over say, the Etchmate 3C? I have the 3C and just by looks, the Bug just appears to be a bit smaller. Maybe it has two(?) more ... teeth(?). Or is it just a personal preference thing? I've heard tons of good things about the Bug, I'm just being a pain and curious.

Josh

Josh

I'll be honest, I'm not sure if there is any really significant difference between the Bug and the etchmate 3C (to be honest though, I am not familiar with that etchmate).  What won me over, aside from the Bug being on sale when I bought it, was the customer service and the stories I heard from other people to suggest it was the norm rather than the exception...

There is also the cost consideration - I believe that even at regular price, the Bug is about $10 less than the etchmate.  Still, I have heard good things about Mission Models products as well, and I suspect some people prefer their bending tools to the Small Shops.

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:06 AM

I don't understand why customer service is a big deal with these tools. Confused

Are they that badly made that you even need customer service?

It is just a piece of CNC machined aluminum with a threaded knob to tighten it. Am I missing something? Hmm

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Dr. Faust on Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:27 AM

MikeV

I don't understand why customer service is a big deal with these tools. Confused

Are they that badly made that you even need customer service?

It is just a piece of CNC machined aluminum with a threaded knob to tighten it. Am I missing something? Hmm

Customer service is a big thing when deciding and purchasing any tool.

I have the Etchmate and like the way it does the job.

Would have definatley considered the bug if I had known about it.

Dr

Just build it (and post pics when youre done)

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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, January 31, 2010 11:27 AM

Dr. Faust

 

 

 

Customer service is a big thing when deciding and purchasing any tool.

I understand that coming from a family of master heavy equipment mechanics but what customer service would you need for the Bug? It is not complex and I doubt it would break. It's about as sophisticated as a vice. Big Smile

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by CuriousG on Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:18 PM

I agree Mike that customer service from a maintenance angle is not an issue with a simple tool like a PE bender. For me, it comes down to the business transaction. I get frustrated when ordering things over the internet: stuff that says "in stock" really isn't, packages that should arrive in three days take two weeks, postage that should cost $4 is billed as $10.50, and calling to check status of an order results in an endless phone tree. None of that with the Small Shop.

George Ireland

"If you can't learn to do it well, learn to enjoy doing it badly."  - Ashleigh Brilliant

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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:37 PM

CuriousG

I agree Mike that customer service from a maintenance angle is not an issue with a simple tool like a PE bender. For me, it comes down to the business transaction. I get frustrated when ordering things over the internet: stuff that says "in stock" really isn't, packages that should arrive in three days take two weeks, postage that should cost $4 is billed as $10.50, and calling to check status of an order results in an endless phone tree. None of that with the Small Shop.

Thanks. That I can understand. Yes

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:23 PM

That is one of the reasons to shop direct where you can and source from those vendors that maintain a live up to the minute inventory 24/7/365. This is why I do business with Sprue Brothers:

"Inventory Questions
We have been receiving a lot of inquiries lately regarding whether we actually have something in stock as our website indicates. This is likely due to the practices of other online hobby stores who have a different definition of what "In Stock" means. In case you are not familiar with our business practices, we use a real time inventory system that shows (accurately and live/in real time) what is available for sale and how many. It automatically and instantly updates the available quantities after each order is successfully placed.

Also, our definition of “In Stock” means that the item is actually in our warehouse (not at our distributors’/suppliers’ warehouse) and is ready to immediately ship to you. Thus if you order from us, you will reliably and quickly receive what you order. On a side note, we are also human, so on rare occasion something could be in error, however our error rate in 2009 to date has well been less than 0.1%."

There are a lot of online retailers out there, and many don't actually stock (that is have possession of the items they are selling) on hand to ship immediately when you place your order. Nothing worse that having a package arrive from the vendor with a note of what's not included and will be shipped at a later date. Double that with they're gonna charge you additionally for the cost of the subsequent shipment too. Bang Head

As a manufacturer, I make it a point to update my website when a particular item is currently not available. It may be that a vendor I depend upon hasn't serviced my needs, in turn I can't meet yours. Of course these situations don't happen often, but they do happen once in a while. If you did place an order and for some reason I was not able to fill it completely, then I take the lumps and send it as soon as I can with no additional cost to you. It wasn't your fault. It was the way I was taught, treat others as I would be treated.

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

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"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

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Posted by jimbot58 on Monday, February 1, 2010 2:22 AM

Maybe customer service may not seem like much for something as simple as "The Bug", but when you have a company that goes out of it's way to thank you and let you know how much they appreciate your business, it's a welcome thing in this day of corporations and indifference. I have worked retail now for over 30 years and I can tell you as a retailer and a consumer, customer service wins every time. Customers will go out of their way to shop where they feel welcome and not a "buy our product or not!" sort of attitude. The Small shop has been quick to respond to those who have had problems with their tools, right here on this forum! Myself and many others have been contacted by a lady named Julie right here when we discussed problems. So a great product coupled with great customer service is a winner.

*******

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It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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