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Thinning paint - what do you use to measure

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Thinning paint - what do you use to measure
Posted by Axemanwb on Wednesday, February 1, 2012 9:38 PM

I've been using straws marked with increments and just add paint by inserting the straw in the pain bottle and holding my finger on the end. Mix with appropriate thinner or other color using differnt straws. OK - How are you doing the measuring? I'd love to have a syringe that a straw could fit in - since straws are so easy to come by. Any other ideas? I expect this is one of those 'duh' questions.

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Posted by fermis on Wednesday, February 1, 2012 10:02 PM

I keep spare paint bottles (cleaned after the paint is gone) for mixing/thinning paint. When I crack open a new bottle, I just pour straight into a clean bottle, about 1/3rd full. Then, using a pipette, just squirt some thinner in there for a roughly 60/40 (paint/thinner) ratio. No science for this simple guy!

 You can get syringes that'll fit into a paint bottle that are marked in MLs if you want to be precise.

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Wednesday, February 1, 2012 10:29 PM

I just eye-ball it using a plastic pipette-  go for about a 50/50 mixture.  I have found that exact proportions are not really critical.  If it has the viscosity of about 2% milk when you dip a stick into it, it's about right. 

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Posted by Nathan T on Wednesday, February 1, 2012 10:37 PM

I just wing it...kinda like Cadet Chuck stated, 2% milk look to it...each paint brand is different, thinning is more critical on some than others.

 

 

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Posted by OMCUSNR on Wednesday, February 1, 2012 10:44 PM

I use my Opticalman calibrated Mk1 Mod 0 eyeball & the 1 oz jar that came with my Paasche VL.

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Wednesday, February 1, 2012 11:09 PM

I pretty much do it by eye. After they're mixed in the 1/2 oz jars I use, I give it a shake, open the bottle, and observe how it coats (or doesn't coat) the sides of the jar to get the right consistency.

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Posted by Fuddy Duddy on Wednesday, February 1, 2012 11:25 PM

I find pipettes are the easiest way to measure paints and thinner. I purchased my pipettes on Amazon. I got a case of 500 for $17.00 with free 2nd day shipping.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Thursday, February 2, 2012 3:44 AM

Graduated disposable syringes, usually 1ml & occasionally 5ml for overall colour coats, I use mainly acrylics so cleaning isn't a problem - a couple of pumps with water & their clean.

When I say syringes, these things are usually called "oral dispensers" or "Enteral dispensers", they are readily available at pharmacies & generally used to give reluctant babies / children medicine. Some brands are not so good as the plunger seal will swell even with alcohol, but others are fine. I'm not if the sure if they are available in the US, but the Baxa ExactaMed range works well for acrylics & enamels, they also tend to last far longer than disposable pipettes;

 

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Posted by Bick on Thursday, February 2, 2012 7:37 AM

I use glass eye droppers from the drugstore and count drops. I'm often using small amounts so I've used the small clear plastic lid from some spray bottles - put ten or so drops of thinner then same number of drops of paint, stir, eye ball the consistency and pour in the AB and spray. If mixing larger amounts, I use medicine dose cups marked in ml and tsp or whatever.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, February 2, 2012 7:45 AM

I just eyeball it,worked so far

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:25 AM

I gave up trying to actually measure ratio by transferring paint. I have gone to using the Mark 1 eyeball and pour directly from paint bottle into an airbrush jar and adding thinner to get mix ratio I want.  Practice makes perfect. One does not need to be accurate to a one percent accuracy or anything like that.

I also found I needed to increase the amount of thinner when I found I could no longer find Testors airbrush thinner at hobby shops and had to resort to hardware store mineral spirits.  I had previously noted the difference in airbrushing with the Testors stuff versus hardware store stuff but find I can now get same results by just using a somewhat thinner mix.

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Posted by wjbwjb29 on Friday, February 3, 2012 2:27 PM

In the past I have used a gram scale to be precise but now I look how the paint slides down the side of the paint cup. The scale was a little overkill but it works.

 

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Posted by Axemanwb on Monday, February 6, 2012 12:06 PM

THanks for the replies everyone. I'm with you on usually not needing to do be exact, but I've come up with a interesting way to handle the raised panel line kits. What I do is shade every sucessive coat a little darker, with a base coat of aluminum. I use a sanding pad - like 2000 grit and sand it down. Rivets and stuff come up silver, and the panel will shade unevenly because of the raised panel lines. Worked pretty good for a dauntless I did until I botched it up by clear coating it for decals. I'm almost done with a Stuka and I pained the markings on it.

I think mostly I'm trying to avoid wasting paint and making a huge mess.

Thanks again!

William 'Axeman' Hawes

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Posted by robtmelvin on Thursday, February 16, 2012 3:48 PM

Plastic pippettes and Mark I eyeball.  I mix in the airbrush cup and after a while you get a touch for it.  As stated above, you want it about the consistency of 2% milk, just enough paint to leave a little bit on the side of the cup when you draw a toothpick up from the  paint.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, February 16, 2012 3:54 PM

I use empty pill bottles (from the chemist) and mark with a permanent marker 10 marks equally spaced. that was i can mix paint to a required ratio if called for, and then i just drip a bit of thinner in at the end. (im a brush painter)

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Posted by Chrisk-k on Saturday, March 24, 2012 2:42 PM

I use 3 ml pipettes and Ausf. B. eyeball. 

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Posted by mitsdude on Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:10 AM

Milairjunkie

Graduated disposable syringes, usually 1ml & occasionally 5ml for overall colour coats, I use mainly acrylics so cleaning isn't a problem - a couple of pumps with water & their clean.

When I say syringes, these things are usually called "oral dispensers" or "Enteral dispensers", they are readily available at pharmacies & generally used to give reluctant babies / children medicine. Some brands are not so good as the plunger seal will swell even with alcohol, but others are fine. I'm not if the sure if they are available in the US, but the Baxa ExactaMed range works well for acrylics & enamels, they also tend to last far longer than disposable pipettes;

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Posted by caSSius on Sunday, April 1, 2012 1:31 PM

I fortunately work in research science and was able to pick up a few old 5cc glass syringes from my lab.

Before that I used both glass and plastic pipettes...they weren't graduated, so I was marking them with a Sharpie, or guesstimating when I had matching volumes.

Measuring is nice to ensure I'm not completely out to lunch, but in the end, the swish around the paint cup tells me if I got it right.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, April 8, 2012 9:33 PM

From paint bottle to AB cup where I use a plastic eye dropper to add thinner until it looks right, usually 50/50 mix, thinner for very fine mottling.

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