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  • Member since
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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Sprue Cutters
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, January 24, 2019 7:47 AM

Okay here goes ;

 The title says what the subject is .How well do you know the tool ?

 Xuron and Tamiya and others have them .As do many of the other tool manufacturers .They may Not be called Sprue cutters though .

 Do you like the ones you have ?I personally have at least six pair .Why ? Well look at yours .Does the blade surface come together Flat on one side ? Most actually don't .This to me is a flaw .

Why ? Well you always have a nub to remove then .Either by using a knife tip or a sanding stick . Then there's the problem of thickness at the tip .Do you have a hard time getting the tip between the Sprue and the part , especially when the space is tighter than the thickness of the tip will allow ?

 How are you going to get that Engine throttle or Hand grip off the Sprue without breaking it ?How about that Carb assembly or Radar antenna ?

 I have spent mucho bucks finding the perfect pair to no avail . here's some tips that will allow you to have a better experience here . First , Xurons are Good . The tip is heavier than it needs to be though . Laying it on you bench with the blades flat on the surface facing you , take a medium metal finishing file and gently file that thickness down at a very shallow angle . You want no more that 2 degrees of slant from the cutting edge to the top of the jaws .From the point to the  back only

  This creates a tip that will slip into most spaces with ease and do the job well .WARNING  after doing this , DO NOT use these to cut heavy sprue anywhere ! I also use a pair of stainless Wire Cutters for brass .These have such a flat side , that the end they leave on one side doesn't even need dressing . Perfect for heavier Sprue cutting . Cut the Sprue if the part is buried in the middle , then cut the part off !

  I cannot remind any of you enough , that all of us at times forget what we use a tool for and sometimes damage the jaw alignment by cutting something thicker than the cutters are made for .

 To aleviate this problem I have the number of cutters I do .Two are for heavy plastic and soft brass rod . Two are for medium to light Sprue itself and that last two are for ONLY cutting the part off at the attachment point .

   If you choose to modify the cutting jaws on your cutters , do me and yourself a favor. Do not do this with a power grinder of any type .Why? well , the power grinder of course will generate to much heat and damage the temper of the tips !

      There are also cutters that Beaders use .Hobby -Lobby has them .They come in a moderate to slightly higher price point than Xurons and some lesser priced .These , for the most part have one absolutely flat side where the jaws meet .These are really better for plastic modeling than others .

      Good Cutting ! T.B.      P.S. Dressmakers shears work great for cutting sheet up to.030 , Don,t use pinking shears though ! ( Unless you WANT that zig-zag edge ! )

  • Member since
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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, January 24, 2019 8:15 AM

I have one of the cheap ones from HL.  Love it!  I believe it was eight or nine bucks.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, January 24, 2019 8:18 AM

Don;

 Thanks for such a quick reply .Most of my cutters come from H.L.too !T.B.

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    May 2013
  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Thursday, January 24, 2019 9:08 AM

Several months ago after watching this video about sprue cutters by Paul Budzik, I purchased this sprue cutter by Tamiya.

In the video, Paul mentions machined vs stamped sprue cutters. I looked at my beloved Xuron, which I thought was an excellent tool and realized it is stamped cutter. I am a bit disapointed in myself for never realizing this myself. This machinist/engineer had to be set straight by a dentist. (not the first time Paul has done that and likely won't be the last).

The clean cuts produced by the Tamiya cutters are really something.

 

 

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    April 2009
  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Thursday, January 24, 2019 10:26 AM

Thanks for a very interesting topic, guys.  I am going hunting for a Tamiya 74123 !

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

  • Member since
    January 2019
Posted by Edwin on Thursday, January 24, 2019 10:44 AM

I use the Tamiya 74035 and that works great for me. If I need a new one, will go for the 74123. 

For heavy sprue cutting, I use my old sprue cutters that are more than 30 years old! 

When the part is too close to the sprue tree, I won’t take the chance of forcing the cutter in. I’ll just use my hobby knife to take the part off. Of course, do hold the part down to prevent launching it into the orbit. 

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  • From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posted by Real G on Thursday, January 24, 2019 10:48 AM

I keep several sprue cutters like TB.  The older ones are used to cut through heavy sprue.  I have a relatively new orange handle Xuron, but it seems to crush rather than cut.  For general cutting I use a well worn Zoukei Mura Pro-Zetsu, which can get into very narrow spaces between the part and runner.  For final cleanup cuts I switch to the much ballyhooed God Hands cutter.  I still follow up with an Xacto blade, as the God Hands will take a sliver off the part if you are not careful - I’m not very careful and have done just that.

There are now several cutters similar to the God Hand, and they generally cost a little less and are hopefully easier to find.  One caution is that the tips are fragile.  Two friends broke theirs, one a God Hand, the other a cheap knockoff.  The God Hand broke when accidentally dropped, the knockoff just fell apart when being used!

I know some will say it’s folly to spend big bucks on cutters, but they do make a difference.

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:16 PM

Hello!

I think TB has written a very nice article here, on a very important modeller's tool.

Recently I have started to use the razor saw more for freeing really fragile parts from the sprue. That's a very safe method with no strain placed on the part, and very little danger of loosing the part in process.

And I also wanted to comment on something we see every day in modelling industry - take some ordinary tool or material, re-pack it stating it's for modellers and magically the price multiplies. That's why I always encourage my dear friends - I mean YOU! - to look around further than just modelling stores. Just like you can replace that expensive liquid glue with simple (and cheap) solvent (OK, it takes some research), or find surgical blades that are cheaper and better than X-acto blades, you can also find comparable or better cutters in stores selling tools for electronics. Top brands include Knipex, Wiha and Garant, and I have checked the prices on Xuron and God Hands - for over 20$ you can find really fine tools in the electronics store. For example check out those:

https://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=group_detail&parentID=1367&groupID=1483

And we're talking top drawer here - you can also find Chinese made tools that can be quite allright for quarter the price. So I recommend taking a look around.

Thanks for reading and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:48 PM

I have several cutters too, like TB. Purchased at different times.  I have several styles of Xurons. The Xuron I use more for rough cutting since I found better cutters. I do like the Xuron shears for PE work.

The spru cutters are some from Hobby Lobby, 3 different Tamiya, and one that I don't have a name for but is very nice and has a set screw to adjust the jaw cut. The Tamiya's are my go -to for nice smooth cutting. Each one has a somewhat differently shaped jaws, one is longer, thinner and finely pointed for very small and tight work.

One can never have too many tools.Big Smile

 

EJ

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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  • From: Parker City, IN.
Posted by Rambo on Thursday, January 24, 2019 9:29 PM
Think I'll look into the Tamiya cutters I have a pair from HL. That are for head jewelry and they are starting to get wore but have been the best thing I've used so far. Thanks TB for starting this discussion.

Clint

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  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Thursday, January 24, 2019 9:32 PM

I got the tamiya cutters recently and they are  very nice.  Snip nice and clean  

Thanks,

John

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    July 2013
Posted by steve5 on Thursday, January 24, 2019 10:14 PM

the set I have are from dspiae , they are really good for close in fine work , I'm also like TB , I have a heavy set for thick sprue , and a general set .

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Western PA
Posted by JDHammer on Thursday, January 24, 2019 11:58 PM
I sure like the way the newest cutters work. Never knew that launching parts 15 feet away was not really a necessary part of modelling.
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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, January 25, 2019 8:00 AM

Aha ! J.D.!

   Now I need to emphasize here that some of my cutters recently acquired are jewelers tools . Given to me at Christmas .Haven't even tried them yet .Look good and for gosh sake ,they certainly don't look cheap either! Plus they have some weight to them as well .

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, January 25, 2019 8:05 AM

Hi Pawel!

 Thanks for your reply . I would like to suggest something else in the saw line as well .Are you familiar with P.E. saws ( are they even available to you ?) I bought some  a couple of years back to do some Auto work and was surprised and satisfied with their quality and finess .

    They come in thicknesses from the size of a Zona or Razor Saw all the way to a heavier thickness X-acto strongback saw . They have many weird shapes and sizes but gosh are they handy .  T.B.

  • Member since
    May 2008
  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Friday, January 25, 2019 8:37 AM

I agree with the Jewelers supplies TB. Watchmakers and Jewelers supplies have tools in the professional tool category. Plus, some stuff I never knew was available and odd materials as well. Everything from cutters, nippers, files, soldering, you name it. esslinger.com

EJ

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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