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Small low speed powered drill
Posted by Having-fun on Friday, September 4, 2020 9:27 PM

 

I did a search here for a small low speed powered drill and did not get anything, so, here is my question:

 

Where I can find a reasonable priced powered drill to be used to make holes in model plastic ships? I have a dremel, but it spins very fast at its lower speed, which means it melts the plastic, I also have a "el chipo” manual drill, but is hard for me to drill with it while maintaining the proper angle, with the result of broken bits.

 

I have been looking in the Internet and I so far I have no found anything that could fit the bill.

 

Do you have any recommendations?

 

Joe

 

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Posted by steve5 on Friday, September 4, 2020 10:40 PM

I have two of these , they are great . they are a model you have to put together , which is easy .you would probably find them cheaper on ebay .

https://hobbymodels.com/products/tamiya-tools-battery-operated-handy-drill

 

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Saturday, September 5, 2020 1:21 AM

Upgrade your drill bits.

Get the highest proven quality you can, good to twirl in the hand for a few holes. 

I have several different sizes of these PCB Drills 

https://reprapworld.co.uk/products/supplies_tools/tools/pcb_drill_bit_set_0_1_1_0mm_10_pieces/?f=gs&f=gs&mkwid=sezIT8ytU_dc|pcrid|373094347668|pkw||pmt||slid||prid|1676&pgrid=76911713712&ptaid=pla-295958764734&gclid=Cj0KCQjwy8f6BRC7ARIsAPIXOjiJvCnv-vpzmBEpCVf62oyVBI7Giz53XI2awUsLbk-gCUdJaNEVDPEaAgyxEALw_wcB

If you drill a lot of the same size holes, then a box of the same size will be useful.

https://reprapworld.co.uk/products/supplies_tools/tools/drillset_0_4_mm_3_2mm_150_pieces/


I also have some EXPO and Minicraft brand 12V drills, key with them is I have both brand TRANSFORMERS so I can go 0-20,000 revs.  Because of the way they work, they do 'pulse' at the lowest speeds, but  they work.

https://www.ema-models.co.uk/index.php/power-tools/rotary-tools/minicraft-rotary-tool.html?limit=all

Demo here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=842KYQjy39o

(links editing not working today)

 

 

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Saturday, September 5, 2020 5:54 AM

I use my trusty Dewalt DC0710 for my modeling.  Small and well-balanced, so its been just as easy to handle as a Dremel.  Smooth, variable-speed so you don't overheat things or over-drill.

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Saturday, September 5, 2020 8:19 AM

I have used one of those Tamiya drills for a couple of years now, and find it works quite well.  Speed is not variable, and it is not reversible, but it's just right for plastic model work.  Putting it together was just like building a plastic model, but I had no difficulty.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, September 5, 2020 9:20 AM

I had tried a few before, but never liked them.  Now I have one I love.  It is from Michaels, and is from their beading section.  I

The brand is Bead Landing.  Lets see if I can copy the image from a previous thread.

Hey, that worked.  Only problem with it is that the chuck is 3/32 rather than 1/8, but I fortunately had several bits with 3/32 shaft in my Dremel tool collection, and they have worked so far.  If I need to get some other grinder, I know that several places sell 3/32 accessories (my dremels all came with 3/32 chucks as optional accessories.

This is not a battery tool, but comes with an AC power supply.  I think the lack of battery is what makes it so light and handy.  There is a speed control, and the speed range is just right for working with styrene. It is a bit too whimpy to handle wood or brass, but is a neat option to my more powerful dremels.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Jay Jay on Saturday, September 5, 2020 10:24 AM
Proxxon makes a good variable speed "Dremel " type tool that slows down nicely for plastic work. BUT it's rather pricey , as all their stuff is, at Micro Mark

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Jay Jay on Saturday, September 5, 2020 10:27 AM

Don, I wonder if you can replace the collet chuck on these like I did on my Dremel with a 3 jaw chuck ?

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Having-fun on Saturday, September 5, 2020 11:22 AM

steve5

I have two of these , they are great . they are a model you have to put together , which is easy .you would probably find them cheaper on ebay .

https://hobbymodels.com/products/tamiya-tools-battery-operated-handy-drill

 

 

I have seen this drill Amazon, the problem I have with it is its size, I would prefer a pencil shaped drill small in size, so I can be sure to be able to use it in tight places.

 

Joe

 

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Posted by Having-fun on Saturday, September 5, 2020 11:27 AM

Don Stauffer

I had tried a few before, but never liked them.  Now I have one I love.  It is from Michaels, and is from their beading section.  I

The brand is Bead Landing.  Lets see if I can copy the image from a previous thread.

Hey, that worked.  Only problem with it is that the chuck is 3/32 rather than 1/8, but I fortunately had several bits with 3/32 shaft in my Dremel tool collection, and they have worked so far.  If I need to get some other grinder, I know that several places sell 3/32 accessories (my dremels all came with 3/32 chucks as optional accessories.

This is not a battery tool, but comes with an AC power supply.  I think the lack of battery is what makes it so light and handy.  There is a speed control, and the speed range is just right for working with styrene. It is a bit too whimpy to handle wood or brass, but is a neat option to my more powerful dremels.

 

 

 

I went to Michael's yesterday looking for paint, they did not have any, in fact, their selection of model building supplies is limited. I did not search for the drill, it looks interesting so next time I go the Michael's I will look for it.

Thanks

Joe

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Posted by ddp59 on Saturday, September 5, 2020 12:33 PM

Joe, your Dremel tool, does it have the internal speed control or external speed control as sounds like internal? when i got my Dremel tool back in the mid to late 70's, it did not have a speed control so it will break 1/4"x 1/2" balsa with no problem when i want to cut it instead. once i got the external speed control the following Christmas, it can go from 0 rpm all the way to 28000 rpm depending on the dial position. with the flex shaft from a dremel clone, i'll be able to get into somewhat cramped spaces i can't get into without that shaft. the bulges, sterns & bows was done with knive, sandpaper & dremel tool on plastic. http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=165105

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, September 5, 2020 12:46 PM

Hi Joe;

    Don't laugh! Please. I got a small flat topped drill at Harbor Freight. You charge it with the type of cord and fixture you use on a Kindle. The only difference is the charging wire has a pin rather than a flat connector to the drill. Even at full charge I can drill .010 with it.The trigger is that sensitive.

     It's actually not much bigger than a Childs squirt gun. ( The small Space ray gun model)

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Posted by disastermaster on Saturday, September 5, 2020 1:42 PM

Check out manicure/pedicure products. There's a lot in that category that can relate to model building.

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by Having-fun on Saturday, September 5, 2020 8:09 PM

ddp59

Joe, your Dremel tool, does it have the internal speed control or external speed control as sounds like internal? when i got my Dremel tool back in the mid to late 70's, it did not have a speed control so it will break 1/4"x 1/2" balsa with no problem when i want to cut it instead. once i got the external speed control the following Christmas, it can go from 0 rpm all the way to 28000 rpm depending on the dial position. with the flex shaft from a dremel clone, i'll be able to get into somewhat cramped spaces i can't get into without that shaft. the bulges, sterns & bows was done with knive, sandpaper & dremel tool on plastic. http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=165105

 

 

My Dremel is an old unit, at least 20 years old, it has a small level on the side that allows the user to control the speed, but, its lower speed still fast to the point of melting the plastic. It looks like that the lower speed is near 5,000 RPM, in addition is a relative big unit and a bit heavy.

 

Joe

 

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Posted by ddp59 on Saturday, September 5, 2020 9:25 PM

get an external speed controller to allow you go from a few rpm's to full speed & get a flex shaft. my Dremel is about 42yrs old while the external speed controller is about a yr or 2 younger.

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Posted by Having-fun on Sunday, September 6, 2020 8:35 AM

ddp59

get an external speed controller to allow you go from a few rpm's to full speed & get a flex shaft. my Dremel is about 42yrs old while the external speed controller is about a yr or 2 younger.

 

 

My Dremel came with a flexible shaft that I have never had the need to use, so I have to figure out how to attach it, I may have to buy a new collect for it, not a big deal. I will check on the external speed controller.

Thanks

Joe

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, September 6, 2020 8:40 AM

Jay Jay

Don, I wonder if you can replace the collet chuck on these like I did on my Dremel with a 3 jaw chuck ?

 

Unfortunately, my chuck is 1/8 shank.  I suppose I could look for a 3/32 chuck.  However, I don't particularly like running small hand grinders with heavy chucks.  I don't think the bearings are very good.  Even my battery Dremel seems to go out of balance and vibrate when I put the chuck in it.

I have been looking at more 3/32 accessories.  I think the ones I would like are a cutoff wheel and a drum sander.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Having-fun on Sunday, September 6, 2020 8:38 PM

Having-fun

 

 
ddp59

get an external speed controller to allow you go from a few rpm's to full speed & get a flex shaft. my Dremel is about 42yrs old while the external speed controller is about a yr or 2 younger.

 

 

 

 

My Dremel came with a flexible shaft that I have never had the need to use, so I have to figure out how to attach it, I may have to buy a new collect for it, not a big deal. I will check on the external speed controller.

Thanks

Joe

 

 

I checked about the speed controller in the Dremel web site, they do not recommend a speed controller on a Dremel that has, like my, a build in controller, they claim that it may damage the controller in the unit.

 

Joe

 

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Posted by ddp59 on Sunday, September 6, 2020 11:35 PM

if you leave the internal speed controll at full then external speed controll should not affect it. will try it on 1 of my Dremel clones to see if any problems or not.

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Posted by EdGrune on Monday, September 7, 2020 9:16 AM

I have a pin vice with a hex drive shank which fits in my battery powered electric screwdriver.   With fresh batteries it turns at 30-50 RPM, slower than my Dremel knockoff.   Good torque for drilling plastic/resin.  Look on Amazon

The downside is that the screwdriver is a bit unweildy for drilling a bunch of repetitive holes in a line, such as a line of portholes on irregular surfaces

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