Hold and Fold tool

Reviews are here

http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/misc/tools.htm

Best to make up your own mind :)

AJ

What is the most economical one to buy? I usually have medium difficulty PE, and the pieces are larger than normal.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Ali1kj Oh hum, we must beg to differ then, I still feel a lot of ship and train guys will disagree big time, However, if with your stuff you can do it as well as, if at times at all, well fair play . :) "A Rubbery" conclusion then, and no nasties, Finescale is a fair place for sure Cheers AJ

Aye, fold merrily as ye see fit!

Oh hum, we must beg to differ then, I still feel a lot of ship and train guys will disagree big time, However, if with your stuff you can do it as well as, if at times at all, well fair play . :)

"A Rubbery" conclusion then, and no nasties, Finescale is a fair place for sure

Cheers

AJ

QUOTE: Originally posted by Ali1kj You can, however, achieve exactly the same results with a good pair of flat pliers, a razor blade, and a flat surface. And at a fraction of the cost! Sorry but the above is total "rubber" unless you just build a few add ons. Now tell me how you build the LoinRoar Nashorn set then ?? You can do that with a razor blade, well I would love to see the results :) as I really would be impressed In the o"lden days" when etch was VERY simple I would say yes I agree, BUT now, no way. Still with a smile on my face :) AJ

I stand behind what I said, Alasdair, whether you think it's "rubber " or not!
It can all be done with simple tools, albeit not as easily. I worked many a crazy Aber set with fine results long before I ever picked up my Etch-Mate. Sure, it's easier now, but my point was that it's not impossible to achieve fine results with any of the modern PE sets using common tools.

Etch-Mates and Hold-n-Folds are NOT necessities, just as an airbrush is not a necessity to create a beautiful model.

All are valuable tools that make creating beautiful models easier, but with a little skill, practice, ingenuity, and patience, great results are certainly possible without them.

But to go back to Spurdog's original question, yes, the Hold-n-Fold is worth buying!

Definitely worth buying.
Just not a necessity.

In my opinion, of course!

You may think it's "rubber!"

You can, however, achieve exactly the same results with a good pair of flat pliers, a razor blade, and a flat surface. And at a fraction of the cost!


Sorry but the above is total "rubber" unless you just build a few add ons.

Now tell me how you build the LoinRoar Nashorn set then ?? You can do that with a razor blade, well I would love to see the results :) as I really would be impressed

In the o"lden days" when etch was VERY simple I would say yes I agree, BUT now, no way.

Still with a smile on my face :)

AJ

QUOTE: Originally posted by Ali1kj I have the Etch-Mate, which is a similar tool. in the same way a Ford is an Aston Martin :) :) :)

Well, yes, that's why I said similar, not the same.

Alasdair, I'm sure you're very proud of the Hold and Fold, and it is indeed a very good product from what I can see, but the Etch-Mate is also a very good product that does precisely what's its supposed to do, and is itself a finely crafted tool. I love mine.

As I mentioned previously, I do not believe any of these tools are necessities, but they do indeed make fiddling with PE easier and more enjoyable. And of course, we all love cool gadgets!

You can, however, achieve exactly the same results with a good pair of flat pliers, a razor blade, and a flat surface. And at a fraction of the cost!

I have the Etch-Mate, which is a similar tool.

in the same way a Ford is an Aston Martin :) :) :)

Re the Tools,

Regarding NEW Photo Etch tools, remember these tools are designed to cover all the etch out there,

Ship masts in hair thin brass (never could even see it :) ) with 7 or 8 folds !!! , Railway brass (thicker) , braile scales and such.
To be fair, armour brass is mostly quite easy in comparrison to a lot out there in wingie thing, wet land or choo choo land. :).
This is also the reason for 5x sizes from 2.5 inch out to the massive 3 clamp 14 inch for the O guage railway and large scale ship boys.

It is for this reason the tools were upgraded, together with demands for methods to fold headlamp guards and wire loom runs etc from our customers,

Hence the NEW tool range, It all you fault :)

Cheers and hope I have helped

AJ

I have the Etch-Mate, which is a similar tool.
It's great!
I don't know if I'd go so far as to say it's essential for doing PE, but it certainly does make it easier, and a lot more fun!

Excellent! Thanks.

Some Detail shots to help





Cheers

AJ

Yes, that's the one. Hope it's as good as it looks!

Just to help those who have not seen it :) But I will leave it to others to comment :)

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Alasdair

I agree with tankmaster, if youre going to use PE get one of these, they are an absolute must. Might be an idea to invest in one of the Mission Models multi tools (two types)
which i have found to be handy for making tubes/ radius and also shaping cones should it be needed.
Tamiya have also just brought out a pair of PE pliiers which might be usefull for some of the more fiddly stuff

I dunno about that one. I use the old (original) 4 inch model and I love it. I couldn't do PE without it.