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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Sunday, January 22, 2006 11:40 AM
Thanks Ross, I appreciate the feedback on the similarities. I do have 2 compressors. 1 is for the a/b the other is a twin tank "contractor's grade" type which I use for airing up tires & running air tools. I've read somewhere about the process you described for "de-airing". I'll have to do my homework on that before actually trying it.
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Posted by Triarius on Sunday, January 22, 2006 11:09 AM
 Hippy-Ed wrote:
Thanks Delbert for the link. Seems there's quite a bit there to choose from.
 Being fairly new to resin & casting parts myself, I dunno if I like being "pressed" for time.  I have a pretty good idea of the process of pouring moulds since my stepmom use to make her own ceramics & I helped alot with that. Same principle right?



Mold making is pretty similar, and no, you don't want to be pressed for time as a beginner. Although resins are expensive, it pays to buy extra—so you can throw out your mistakes.

Also, if you have a compressor and can find something to use as an airtight chamber that you can hook to the intake, you can de-air both the mold material and the resin. Some of these materials really need that (the manufacturer will usually say so in the instructions.)

There was also a very good article on mold making in FSM awhile back, but since I'm about two years behind in my reading, I can't recall where.

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Sunday, January 22, 2006 12:23 AM
Thanks Delbert for the link. Seems there's quite a bit there to choose from.
 Being fairly new to resin & casting parts myself, I dunno if I like being "pressed" for time.  I have a pretty good idea of the process of pouring moulds since my stepmom use to make her own ceramics & I helped alot with that. Same principle right?

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Posted by Delbert on Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:17 AM
the company that makes it is called smooth on

http://www.smooth-on.com

sooth cast chart
http://www.smooth-on.com/liqplas.htm

the company describes it as this
"The Smooth Cast 300 Series of liquid plastics are ultra-low viscosity casting resins that yield castings that are bright white and virtually bubble free. Vacuum degassing is not necessary. They offer the convenience of a one to one mix ratio (one part A to one part B by volume). The differences between them are pot life and demold time."

Smooth Cast 300 is a 1 to 1 ratio mix pot life is 3 min and demolds in around 10 minutes or so

the pint bottles on their site are listed at $22.

I got mine locally at a Dick Blick's Art stores

I have used the micro mark set also, and of the 2 I perfer the smooth on because I get less bubbles and faster cure times. though with the lower working time you have to be organized and set up and ready when you mix it.

also I stoped using the micro mark set because after a year on the shelf the stuff I had left went bad and wouldn't mix right. (and it was sealed tight in a temp controled room)

Just for the record I'm not a "casting expert" Just someone who likes to make extra parts for my projects and the above is my personal preference.



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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Friday, January 20, 2006 12:24 PM
Delbert, This is interesting, do you have a link to share with us? what is the pros & cons of this?
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Posted by Triarius on Friday, January 20, 2006 11:52 AM
 Delbert wrote:
For casting small parts I use a product called Smooth-cast 300 by Smooth-on.. its a white liquid plastic instead of a resin.. dries much more quickly and is nice to work with..


Sounds interesting. Who sells it and what does it cost?

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Posted by Delbert on Friday, January 20, 2006 7:51 AM
For casting small parts I use a product called Smooth-cast 300 by Smooth-on.. its a white liquid plastic instead of a resin.. dries much more quickly and is nice to work with..



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Posted by Triarius on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:54 AM
Bare Metal Foil http://www.bare-metal.com/ also sells casting resins and supplies. There is a lot of useful information on mold making and casting on their site. They are also very helpful over the phone. I've been very happy with their products and technical assistance. I have not compared prices recently, but they may be a more economical choice, especially if you plan to do a significant amount of casting.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:09 PM
Boy, I sure learned a lesson the hard way with regard to resin casting: ALWAYS use fresh materials!! I cast a 1:72 Kriegsfischkutter hull in resin (with plastic keel and frames) whose age was questionable. I went ahead and cast the hull, and completed the entire scratchbuilt vessel....only to find after a few months that the old resin had not fully cured and would continue to bubble and leak through the sides of my boat. As far as I know, there's nothing that can be done about this problem (unless someone out there has an idea).....the moral of the story is to use premium materials and don't try to skimp - it'll only result in heartache.
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Wednesday, January 4, 2006 11:08 PM
 Woody wrote:

Ed, You might like to check out these how-to articles on resin casting.

http://www.starshipmodeler.com/basics/jc_molds.htm

http://www.starshipmodeler.com/projects/jw_resin.htm



Thanks again Woody. Those are some good articles. Very informativeBig Smile [:D] I've got them bookmarked for future references.  (I found the May 2005 issue of FSM this evening too)
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Posted by Woody on Wednesday, January 4, 2006 9:43 PM

Ed, You might like to check out these how-to articles on resin casting.

http://www.starshipmodeler.com/basics/jc_molds.htm

http://www.starshipmodeler.com/projects/jw_resin.htm


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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Wednesday, January 4, 2006 8:35 PM
Thanks Jeff for your insight on this. I'll be starting out with casting small bits like O2 tanks, bulkheads,etc. And once I get started on my PT Boat, I'll have to convert an a/c motor over to marine use then cast 3 of them from the master. Shock [:O] oh what fun that'll be....
 

Woody, your starship looks great! I like the looks of the mold too.Big Smile [:D] Thanks fellas, I appreciate the input on this.

What issue of FSM was the mold making /Resin Casting in?? I was looking for it recently.

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Posted by Woody on Wednesday, January 4, 2006 5:46 PM

I used that very kit for my Baton Rouge. I really liked the results. Here is my finished kit made using the MicroMark resin & molds. The mold shown is the bottom side of the two part saucer mold.

 

 


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Posted by Jeff Herne on Wednesday, January 4, 2006 4:42 PM
It depends entirely on you, the caster.

The Micro-Mark set is perfect if you're doing simple, open faced or two-part molds.

If you think that you can produce your own 1/32 resin aircraft kit from this set, you'll be disappointed.

This set is perfect for someone who's starting out, or needs to cast small parts.

Typically, you can make about 5 or 6 baseball-sized, 2-part molds from the components included.

If you're doing simple open-faced molds, you'll get alot more mileage out of it.

Just remember, that the RTV rubber has a limited shelf life (in the jar). I bought a set of rubber bottles recently and one of the parts (the blue half) was already a solid when I opened it.

I say go for it...

Jeff
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Question 4resin casting experts
Posted by Hippy-Ed on Wednesday, January 4, 2006 3:11 PM
Hey y'all, I was checking out Micromark.com and seen  their "complete resin Casting Starter Set (#82698)  for $76.75.
  What's your opinion on this set?  Pros & cons, etc Any good?
Thanks,
Eddie

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