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Alternatives to Waldron punch and die set
Posted by mfsob on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 3:17 PM
With the pending closing of Waldron, and what seems to be a drastic increase in the price of their punch and die sets due to the pending scarcity, has anyone found a practical alternative for those small sizes?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:10 PM
to make holes: pin vice.  to make very small circles of plastic: mechanical pencils. 
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Posted by qmiester on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:41 AM
Just out of curiosity, I checked RollModels last night and their prices on both punch sets hadn't changed.  My suggestion would be to bite the bullet and order them now before they do become really expensive.  I've got both and am now lookin at Historex punch sets (especially the Hexagonal set)
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Posted by treadwell on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 6:34 PM
hi manBig Smile [:D]-- please expand on the mech pencil theory-- i'm getting images of replacing graphite with styrene-- is that correct?

   

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 7:52 PM
just use it like a punch.  pull the graphite back, put the metal part on the styrene sheet and press down.
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Posted by RadMax8 on Saturday, January 28, 2006 8:56 AM
That'd have to be some thin plastic, and some tiny styrene circles... LeeMitchellTree once gave an example of a home-made punch set... maybe it you guys are lucky he'll drop by and give it again.
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Posted by mfsob on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:12 AM
I vaguely remember that homemade thing, but that's not really an option for me since *mumbles* I tend to hurt myself with just using tools, let alone trying to make some. I thing I'm going to just have to bite the bullet, since trying to create really small circles in other ways has so far been an exercise in frustration.
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Posted by grandadjohn on Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:53 AM
If you want one, get ti now, saw ad in current FSM Waldron is going out of business due to ill health of owner
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Posted by mfsob on Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:18 AM

Yes, I saw that ad in the last FSM, which was what prompted this post.

At one point I was thinking, why would I ever need that? ... but after coming across numerous situations where it would have been really, really nice to be able to make very small circles of styrene, be it for ships or aircraft, I bowed to the inevitable.

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Posted by djrost_2000 on Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:03 AM
When Waldron goes, I'm sure some other company will make a substitute.

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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, March 12, 2006 2:47 AM
Which Waldron set do most people use?
The WR0019 Sub Minature set or the WR0018 Precision Punch set?

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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, March 12, 2006 3:04 AM

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by hkshooter on Monday, March 13, 2006 4:38 PM
I use a leather punch. The kind with the handles and wheel. It has about six different sizes on the wheel and one just rotates the wheel to the disired size.
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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, March 13, 2006 6:09 PM
 MikeV wrote:

I wonder how this set will work?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47734

 

No resaon that should not work.  Only problem is the size.  The 1/8" may be practical for some instruments... maybe the 3/16 if you are doing soem large scale.

 

There was sometiong one time about making a set from drill bit shafts, plexglass and a hockey puck.  Anyone rememeber that or better yet... have the plans?

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:20 AM

Found this Mini Punch Set, by LF Tandy, at AC Moore for $8 this morning.  5/64 the smallest up to 11/64.  Just a metal barrel with changeable tips.   

The small one worked great for cutting out small instruments.  These instruments are the smallest ones on a Mike grant 1/48 IP decal sheet. 

So I have to revise what I said in the previous post.  1/8” is huge.  The instruments in the pics are about ½ that.

 

 

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Posted by mfsob on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:40 AM
That's one reason I decided to bite the bullet and get Waldron's miniature set, but could not afford both it and the subminature set - when you're working in 1/72 airplanes and 1/700 ships, it is easy for those really tiny details to end up looking out of scale and quite silly.
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Posted by waikong on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:20 PM
Marc, that's a great find, I'll be checking out my local ACMoore, thanks for the info.
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Posted by ruddratt on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:40 PM

Geez, there's an AC Moore right down the street from where I live.......definitely have to stop in there and pick up a set of those. Thanks, Marc.

 

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Posted by RadMax8 on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:13 PM
What is this AC Moore you speak of? Are there any in Ohio? what brand was that little tool? I must get one!
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Posted by waikong on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:22 PM
AC moore is a crafts store (like Michaels?), go to there web site to see if they have one in Ohio. The brand is Tandy, do a search on Tandy & punch, you'll see other places that sells it if you don't have an AC Moore near by.
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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:26 AM

 waikong wrote:
AC moore is a crafts store (like Michaels?), go to there web site to see if they have one in Ohio. The brand is Tandy, do a search on Tandy & punch, you'll see other places that sells it if you don't have an AC Moore near by.

Yeah...what he saidBig Smile [:D]

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Posted by Cableguy9238 on Sunday, March 19, 2006 1:55 AM

Just an FYI,

1) If you order a Tandy punch set, be POSITIVE you are getting the "Mini Punch Set" and not the "Maxi Punch Set".  There are two differents sets with different size punches.

2) I just did some digging around for information on the Tandy website.  On their website, you can order additional size punches for their punch sets.  They make one more size smaller than the smallest one in the "Mini Punch Set."  It is a "00" or 1/64" punch and it costs $1.49.  Below is the link to the page wehre this punch can be found.  (it is the third punch down from the top in the left row)

http://www.tandyleather.com/products.asp?dept=68&pagenumber=6

Hope this helps!

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:56 AM

Good find there cableguy

 

This did not get much of a viewing in the General Discussion area and I should have put it here.

 

http://www.finescale.com/FSM/CS/forums/599331/ShowPost.aspx

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Posted by qmiester on Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:14 AM
Not to worry, it was announced that Roll Models is in the process of aquiring the manufacturing and distribution rights to all the Waldron line of products.
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Posted by Vartan041 on Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:53 PM
Historex Hexagonal punch & die? Never heard of it. I did a google search and I can't seem to find a U.S. based hobby store that sells that item. Is there a U.S. agent?
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Posted by waikong on Monday, March 20, 2006 12:32 PM

Cableguy's right about the Maxi vs Mini, I picked up the last mini from ACMoore this weekend, they had a bunch of Maxi's and only 1 mini, so I almost picked up the wrong one. One nice thing the waldron set has over this is the clear plexiglass (?) holes where you can position you piece before cutting it out. Seems very precise for cutting out instrument gauges.

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, March 20, 2006 1:19 PM

No question about that waikong.... but for 8 or 9 bucks thois falls into the #2 spot i think.

 

BTW  what time you getting to MosquitoCon?  I'll be at the front gate from 11-1.

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Posted by waikong on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:08 PM
Probally around 11:-11:30 depending on traffic. The entry closes by noon I believe, and if I get there too late there wont be any space left - especially on the 1/48 aircraft table! I have a cutaway Kawanishi shidenkai that I;m trying to finsih for the Con, and the clock is ticking.
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Posted by amaineman57 on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 4:51 PM
Use small diameter brass tubing by filing or sanding a bevel on the outside edge. PUt it in a mechanical pencil, the old fashioned lead clutch style  or chuck in a pin vise

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