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  • Member since
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  • From: Istanbul, Turkey
F-4J Blue Angels
Posted by Nezih Icoz on Tuesday, March 01, 2016 5:44 AM

Hi everyone,

I am looking for references for rear cockpit of Blue Angels F-4J Phantom

I know that B.A. Phantoms modificated by the removing weapon and operational systems external and internal.  I reached pilot dashboard, cockpit details from some actual footages and photos. Now i have enough info for convertion from operational J cockpit.

But rear cockpit was disabled, there is no footage or photos for it normally also they didn't need to open its canopy. I tought that they removed big part of dashboard if they removed operational systems. If you have any info or reference photos for rear cockpit of Blue Angels please it i need help. Thank you so much.  

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  • From: Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, March 04, 2016 6:28 AM

I recall one particular Blue Angel pilot interview where he stated that the aircraft they flew were standard fleet aircraft with the paint being the only modification. So I assume the Phantom's rear seat area would be in regular J confuguration. I did read somewhere that guns (if any) are removed to save weight.

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  • From: Istanbul, Turkey
Posted by Nezih Icoz on Monday, March 07, 2016 5:55 AM

Thank you for information. I got it, they didn't change the ejection seat because they carried some passengers or crews when they were moving to other show.

But they removed some panels of weapons and radars from dashboard to save weight, as you told. Also they removed all external weapon system. 

But I couldn't be sure that they removed big radar scope and small stick. If they romeved i have no idea how cockpit looking like after this. Sadly only the actual photos of cockpit can solve my disease. Sad

Also rear seat canopy had film cover. I tought that it was a guide for other blue angels when they were flying together. Why they didn't fly with operational aircraft without changes as current F-18s or before A-4s ... It is my bad chance :)

 

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1/72: French P-47D 1/48: Val, Zero, Kyofu, 1/32: Ju-87G-2 Rudel, F-4J Blue Angels 1/700: Graf Spee, Scharnhorst 1/35: Panther A, Hetzer, Paladin 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by FlakBait on Monday, March 07, 2016 7:22 PM

Maybe interesting for you or you know it already: In case you add a pilot (plane in flying configuration), omit the oxygen hose and convert the g-suit into a blue overall.

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  • From: Istanbul, Turkey
Posted by Nezih Icoz on Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:16 AM

FlakBait

Maybe interesting for you or you know it already: In case you add a pilot (plane in flying configuration), omit the oxygen hose and convert the g-suit into a blue overall.

 

Thank you, of course it is interesting and helpfull... I saw these details on documentary footages but not clear.  

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1/72: French P-47D 1/48: Val, Zero, Kyofu, 1/32: Ju-87G-2 Rudel, F-4J Blue Angels 1/700: Graf Spee, Scharnhorst 1/35: Panther A, Hetzer, Paladin 

 

 

 

 

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  • From: West of the rock and east of the hard place!
Posted by murph on Friday, March 18, 2016 7:55 AM

A special edition Bert Kinzey Detail & Scale booklet that came in the 48th scale Revell F-4 Phantom 'Blue Angels' boxing of the kit states that the Phantoms carried 4 inert Sidewinders on the bottom of the fuselage.  The two in front were painted Blue Angels blue while the two in the back were painted Blue Angels yellow.  Unfortunately there's nothing in the booklet to illustrate or tell of what other modifications, if any, were made to save weight.

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/rm/kit_rm_6879.shtml

I recall seeing a documentary on the Blue Angels not long ago (flying F/A-18A's) that stated they fly aircraft that, while near the end of their service life, are right off the line without any modifications whatsoever.  They can be put back into operational service, if need be.

For what it's worth...

Mike

Retired and living the dream!

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