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HELP! - Zeros in surrender markings
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:58 PM
Does anyone out there know of some good web sites or books containing photos of Zeros in surrender markings???????????????????????????
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Posted by Foster7155 on Sunday, June 13, 2004 4:10 PM
Sorry, no.

And you don't need to SCREAM!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Quagmyre on Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:13 PM
Flying Colors by William Green and Gordon Swanborough.

I got my copy at Barnes and Noble. It's got illustrations for over 1300 military aircraft, not just Zeroes.

Other than that I'd search Froogle, Amazon, or Barnes and Noble for others.


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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Sunday, June 13, 2004 7:57 PM
Here's a shot of a Zero in quite a unique surrender scheme:


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This is the aircraft which is displayed at the Auckland Museum in New Zealand.
More info and photos of this particular aircraft can be found HERE.

There's also one image on this site of three other Zeros which have a more 'standard' surrender scheme.


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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:07 PM
Sorry Foster7155 but I am on a tight deadline for this project.
Thanks for the help Qagmyre and BlackWolf 3945 that sure is an unusual scheme.
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Posted by dpdelhoyo on Monday, July 26, 2004 12:39 AM
I remember having seen a couple of photos of white Zekes with green crosses instead of Hinomarus, may be in "War Prizes".

Good Luck,
Diego.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:21 AM
My hardbound copy of Flying Colors is one of my modeling bibles, although beware -- it does have its inaccuracies, as well. I don't know where you guys were looking, but the Zeroes in my copy had no surrender markings. The best I've seen are the many surrender decals and the painting profile that come with the old Hasegawa Betty and (now quite rare) Rita kits. It's only a guess, but the Japanese national character doesn't seem to leave a lot of room for admitting defeat, let alone advertising it with drawings and photos.
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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, August 29, 2004 5:59 PM
after reading that site mentioned above, I have the feeling the surrender markings were perhaps put on by the allies after the actualy surrender for safety when ferrying the captured planes to or from an area. Just a hunch. From what I understood about the plane in NZ, the green crosses didn't get added until it was flown from the island or ferried aboard ship.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 11:26 PM
Tho is correct the japanese are a very proud people death before dishonor is a literal promise, i dont imagine you will have much luck finding surrender markings by the riseing sun, if there are any they were definitely produced by the allies. However the history chanel put out a documentary on secret japanese aircraft of ww2 they have a section in that documentary about T.A.I I believe there is some footage of a zero in surrender markings good luck.
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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, September 5, 2004 7:27 PM
ok got something for you here, it's from a french web site that shows decals for different planes... this is their set for a zero in surrender markings:



looks like you could place the normal decals and do a light airbrushing of white then apply the green crosses...
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 6, 2004 12:11 PM
what about when the japanese surrendered to the americans they sent a betty there, it was painted 'white overall with green crosses over the hinamrus''
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Posted by Tailspinturtle on Monday, September 6, 2004 3:13 PM
I found a brief reference to green cross aircraft in here which suggests that there might be Zeros with this marking:

http://www.j-aircraft.com/research/jas_jottings/end_of_the_jaaf_and_jnaf.htm

You can work back from here to the reservoir of all Japanese aircraft knowledge. Good luck.
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