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Experience with Testor's Non-Toxic (Blue Tube) Glue?

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Experience with Testor's Non-Toxic (Blue Tube) Glue?
Posted by mrmike on Saturday, December 19, 2015 2:08 PM

A friend is the recreation director at the local Veterans Home. After a recent inspection, she was told that the scale modelers there will no longer be permitted to use "toxic" glues or paints in their rooms, and there is no area available at the home for crafts or hobbies.

On her behalf, I'm looking into alternatives. Paints, of course, are no problem, but the glue is another matter. Other than CA adhesives, which have their own set of issues, the Testors is the only so-called non-toxic I can think to recommend. I bought a tube and am doing some tests, but I would really appreciate hearing other people's thoughts and experiences.

Thanks, and Happy Holidays!

Mike

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  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Saturday, December 19, 2015 5:17 PM

mrmike
Testors is the only so-called non-toxic I can think to recommend

I haven't used them, but there's also Tamiya Limonene Cement and Gunze's (Mr Hobby) Mr Cement Limonene.

Both are citrus based and "non-toxic"

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Posted by mrmike on Saturday, December 19, 2015 5:22 PM
Thanks Phil - much appreciated!
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Posted by mitsdude on Sunday, December 20, 2015 12:49 AM

I find them to be pretty much worthless. They dont hold well and the parts fall off. My experience in with the Testors only.

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Posted by jelliott523 on Sunday, December 20, 2015 4:46 PM

I've found these glues to be about as good as using chewing gum as an adhesive. I bought this glue for my son, who is 9, when he started his first model and it was a disaster. The stuff took forever to dry and when it dried, most parts just fell off leaving a nasty mess on the plastic that could be flaked off. I finally ended up letting him use the little testors black bottle with the needle tube on it.

I have used, with some luck so far, Gator's Grip acrylic glue. I know its mainly used for clear parts and PE; however, I did use the thick formula for some parts on a 1/32 Bf-109 and it is holding just fine. I suppose it may break free over time, we shall see.

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Posted by mississippivol on Sunday, December 20, 2015 5:03 PM
That's a shame. Their policy needs revision.
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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Sunday, December 20, 2015 9:48 PM

More gov't intrusions!  I would advise them to ignore the new "directive" and tell the gov't where to stick it, if they ask any further questions. My guess is they won't follow up on such nonsense.

But wait- this is the Fed Gov't, isn't it, who neglects veterans with serious medical issues, but now they are worried about what kind of glue they should use???

Super Angry

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, December 21, 2015 9:04 AM

One of the problems these days is a broadening of the meaning of toxic. It originally meant a specific type of poison that affected the nervous system.  Then it was broadened to mean any poisonous substance.  Now it may mean even just materials that are irritating or offensive in odor.  Soon everything in the world will be toxicSad

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by mrmike on Monday, December 21, 2015 11:47 AM

Thanks for all the replies. So far the Testor's product is holding some scrap together OK, but I have yet to try it on an edge-to-edge join. It does seem clunky to use and doesn't sand well. The Tamiya & Mr. Hobby products are worth a try as too; so far I'm not finding them available from the usual stateside sources. May have to order them from an overseas company after the Holidays. Jelliot523, thanks for mentioning Gator Grip; I use a similar product for PE and will put it in the testing process for construction.

As for the rights and wrongs of the situation, we feel fortunate that we finally have a VA home at all. It's been sorely needed and to have it built during the recession is a miracle. Here in California, there's a lot of things we're not allowed to play with, so it comes as a disappointment that the good products are off limits in the resident's rooms, but not a surprise. I feel that the only positive thing to do is to pursue alternate ways to work. Come Spring, our friend hopes to have an outdoor space available where modelers can use whatever materials they choose.

Once again, thanks for your help & Happy Holidays!

Mike

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Posted by jelliott523 on Tuesday, December 22, 2015 8:51 AM

Hope you find something that works, Merry Christmas to you and your familly.

Jeremy

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Posted by mitsdude on Monday, January 4, 2016 12:13 AM

I lump all of these "Green" solvents, cleaners, glues, etc into the same worse than useless category.

I say "worse than" because they can actually screw up your project.

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Posted by Phil_H on Monday, January 4, 2016 12:44 AM

Look at it this way.

Somewhere around 1979/80 I bought a tube of Pactra non-toxic cement, which I believe was orange/citrus based.

I never did get around to using it and over 35 years later, it's still here and still liquid. It hasn't dried out in the tube or evaporated. (Look at the price on the tube!)

 

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Posted by mrmike on Monday, January 4, 2016 12:06 PM
Pactra - now there's a line of products that I still miss, and I don't think it's just nostalgia. The paint was a joy to work with.
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Posted by mitsdude on Wednesday, January 6, 2016 1:32 AM

Pactra was generally cheaper than Testors.

I remember those caps. Pretty easy to loose!

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, January 7, 2016 9:41 PM

Testors tube glue used to have that cap too before switching over to the better cap we see now. I remember non-toxic glue smelling similar to citrus as well. Those were the days. LOL!

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  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Friday, January 8, 2016 12:27 PM

Many years ago, I built balsa stick model airplanes using the "airplane glue" of the day.  Boy, that was powerful stuff!  It made me dizzy after awhile and I suppose it was quite dangerous if misused.  Also highly flammable!

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, January 9, 2016 7:09 AM

mrmike

As for the rights and wrongs of the situation, we feel fortunate that we finally have a VA home at all. It's been sorely needed and to have it built during the recession is a miracle. Here in California, there's a lot of things we're not allowed to play with, so it comes as a disappointment that the good products are off limits in the resident's rooms, but not a surprise. I feel that the only positive thing to do is to pursue alternate ways to work. Come Spring, our friend hopes to have an outdoor space available where modelers can use whatever materials they choose.

Mike, I have to take a moment and applaud your positive outlook.

I think I could use some "lemons into lemonade" lessons from you. Smile

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