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Posted by T_Terrific
on Monday, February 23, 2009 10:44 AM
F-8fanatic wrote: | BSouthwell wrote: | Jack Broughton .....the Turkestan incident Bill |
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Yes, it was Broughton.....and the AF was quite famously stupid for this mess. Broughton was acting CO of a Thunderchief squadron during Vietnam, and two of his pilots defied standing orders by shooting back when they came under AAA fire over Haiphong Harbor. One of the pilots made a strafing run, and a Russian supply ship was left full of holes from this incident. Broughton destroyed gun camera film from one of the planes, and thats why he was charged. An investigation revealed that the holes in the ship came from NVA anti-aircraft guns, aiming low to try to shoot down the planes. So, our pilots tried to defend themselves when they came under fire, and our government was more interested in court-martialing someone than they were with letting our troops defend themselves. Broughton's career was ended because of this mess. He had previously served two tours with the Thunderbirds if I recall right--in F-84 Thunderjets. One of those, he was the leader. |
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This was because we were ignorantly fighting the 'Nam war along the lines of the Korean war where we put up with prolonged and stupid conditions to negotiate a settled Armistice (so-called "peace negoations"), whereas the North Vietnamese actually never intended to settle for a South vs. North Vietman, but were bent on total expulsion of all foreign invaders and all Vietnam under a single government, which they eventually acheived by the following tactic: Any incident that violated any heretofore agreed upon terms would de-rail those talks and force us to start all over, which is what the Vietnamese wanted (as time was on their side) and prolonged the conflict past the point that was no longer sustainable to the U.S. general public. So to offset their protest of our "violation" of the "peace talk" agreements, we unfortunately had to affer a "sacrificial lamb by "punishing the innocent" to appease them. Tom T
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