Aircraft Trivia Quiz

Well, the refrences actually said two BMW-003 engines, and that the pilot ejected. When i read about it for the first time /some 14 years ago/ i was thinking that it`s some kind of joke in the Luft 46 style, but later i read an article in a russian magazine /with the same photos in the link i gave/ which said that the russians found part of the documentation for the plane. But the date April 1st really does make one wonder, true or false, so it`s really possible that i`m one of those fools who believed in an april fool. If it`s just a joke, sorry guys, it`s my fault.

PS. I think it`s fare some of you to give the next question.

Don't take it too bad, Congo - could happen to anyone - may I introduce you to the spaghetti tree:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/1/newsid_2819000/2819261.stm

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Meanwhile, something easy (I hope) to get things re-started. What do these two aircraft:

have in common?

Cheers,

Chris.

They are both silver.

They were both designed by Kurt Tank:

The HF-24 and the FW-44

bondoman wrote:

They are both silver. They were both designed by Kurt Tank: The HF-24 and the FW-44

That's right! Your turn, Bondo!

Cheers,

Chris.

Brews wrote:

They both failed to go supersonic!

OK, specially for you, Bruce - name me a supersonic flying boat!

And no, a model of the Supermarine Waddler, aboard a Concorde, doesn't count!

Cheers,

Chris.

Sea Dart it is. Never achieved its design max speed of 825 mph, but did go supesonic, at high altitude,on 3 August 1954, in a shallow dive. With better engines and the fuselage re-designed according to area rule principles, might well have been able to do so in level flight, too.

Bonus points only, though, Cardshark!

Cheers,

Chris.

chris hall wrote:

There was, of course, also a Japanese jet, albeit that it was a more-or-less copy of the Me.262, and an Italian jet of sorts, but these don't fit the criteria either. Cheers, Chris. and what's all this about furry fish? Certain parties are keen to know!

 The Kikka looked like an Me-262, but it really was an all new airplane.  It pwas probably influenced by the Me-262 design, but the sub with the Me-262 documents was sunk en route to Japan.

 The Kikka was actually somewhat smaller than the German plane and had domestically produced engines that probably borrowed some technology from the German designs.

I did a bit of research on the plane a couple of years ago.  A rather interesting parallel development.  The Japanese also had plans to re-engine the pusher prop J7W Shinden with a jet engine too.

 If the war had lasted another year they may have gotten some jet fighters operational, though their industry was pretty disrupted by 1945.  Not only did the B-29 raids do a lot of damage, but a major earthquake in late 44 shut down some factories too.

 Bill

wdolson2 wrote:

If the war had lasted another year they may have gotten some jet fighters operational, though their industry was pretty disrupted by 1945.  Not only did the B-29 raids do a lot of damage, but a major earthquake in late 44 shut down some factories too.  Bill

Plus, there was the small matter of US submarines swimming all round the Japanese coast, and cutting off supplies of oil and food. Most sources suggest that, regardless of the nuclear strikes,  Japan would have been starved into submission long before they could have got any jet aircraft operational.

Cheers,

Chris.

Yes, there isn't much doubt among informed students of the subject that sending a message to Stalin was as least as important a reason for going ahead with the nuclear strikes as bringing the war to a rapid end, so as to save American lives by removing the need for an invasion. Also, stopping his advances into China and onto the northeren  islands of Japan.

I wasn't as if, by Summer 1945, with B-29s flying freely over the Japanese Home Islands, the Japanese navy and merchant marine at the bottom of the sea, and US battleships and heavy cruisers sailing up and down the Japanese coast, firing at any suitable target they came across, that Japan was a threat to international security any more. Like I said, it was only a matter of time before they would have been starved into submission. The USN succeeded where the Kriegsmarine (only just) failed.

Anyway, we're waddling way off topic...Airplane questions, remember!

Bondo's turn.

Cheers,

Chris.

chris hall wrote:

Yes, there isn't much doubt among informed students of the subject that sending a message to Stalin was as least as important a reason for going ahead with the nuclear strikes as bringing the war to a rapid end, so as to save American lives by removing the need for an invasion. Also, stopping his advances into China and onto the northeren  islands of Japan. I wasn't as if, by Summer 1945, with B-29s flying freely over the Japanese Home Islands, the Japanese navy and merchant marine at the bottom of the sea, and US battleships and heavy cruisers sailing up and down the Japanese coast, firing at any suitable target they came across, that Japan was a threat to international security any more. Like I said, it was only a matter of time before they would have been starved into submission. The USN succeeded where the Kriegsmarine (only just) failed. Anyway, we're waddling way off topic...Airplane questions, remember! Bondo's turn. Cheers, Chris.

Just a friendly reminder: The Twentieth Air Force RAN OUT OF MILITARY TAGETS TO DESTROY in Japan. After that, they switched to civilian targets. Tokyo was bombed with incendiaries. It was the largest and hottest fire in the history of mankind. They still did not give up. Over 100,000 civilians were killed in a SINGLE RAID. To suggest the main reason for nuking them was to "scare the Russians" is convoluted-conspiracy jibberish. Any beneficial diplomatic posturing was serendipity at worst and a minor supporting argument at best.

Uhhh... What was the question? He, he, he...

chris hall wrote:

Brews wrote: They both failed to go supersonic!

Saro ... something or other ... maybe.

Identify this Squadron insignia:

bondoman wrote:

Identify this Squadron insignia:

Hmmm...

 The logo art resembles a C-130 Hercules... tail portion...

The CIA rescued the Dali Lama using a C-130 and some Tibetian secret agents...

But you're in San Franscisco and "In a foriegn country" fries that guess. Unless the Tibetians have their own C-130 I'm wondering.... 

IAF 131 Squadron 'Yellow Birds'

Back in the 70's ,the Israelis used an older C-130, (maybe an 'H' model?) to carry commandos to Uganda to liberate a hijacked airliner.

Good job, man! Jonatan Netanyahu was the leader of the commandos, and the only Israeli soldier to lose his life. They were escorted by F-4s as far as the coast of Africa, and achieved total surprise, rescuing all but one hostage who was in a hospital in Entebbe.

Isradecals makes a fine set for the mission "First into Entebbe" which also includes the 103 Elephant squadron, all C-130s.

C-shark your turn.

son-of-a-beeauch!

Good job, Card_shark!

Thanks guys!

Okay, during WWII, an Axis power played with a layout extremely similar to that of a P-38. Though none were put into production, three different designs had prototypes built that had very heavy armament...

What were they?

Cardshark -

Italy had the Savoia-Marchetti SM 91 which was armed with 5 2omm cannon (3 in the nose and one in each wing root). The SM92 followed the design of twin booms but despensed with the central cockpit having it moved to one of the booms. That was armed with 2x 20mm cannon in the leading wing root  a third in the starboard airscrew hub and 5 x 12.7mm machineguns. A third similar design to the SM 92 was by a different company, the Caproni Bergamaschi 380 armed with 4x20mm cannon and 2x12.7mm machine guns.

I remembered seeing these birds in my trusty copy of "Italian civil and Military Aircraft" by Jonathan Thompson.

SM 91

 SM92

http://worldatwar.net/chandelle/v3/v3n1/italtwin.html

Mike T

Whoa! Never even heard of it!

Incredible!

What year are we talkin' ?

trexx

These aircraft are from 1942 -3.

Mike T.

Thanks Cardshark!

Name the USAAC pilot who flew in defense of Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941 (no victories), but was later more famous because of his combat experience in the ETO. In combat he flew three types aircraft name them as well. One aircraft he flew in various models, that counts only as a single type.

I am going to be out of the office most of the day. So if you might not hear me from me until later today.

Mike T.

I thought this would be an easy one? No takers so far?

Mike T.

hmmm , though one

Gabby

P-36/40

Spitfire Mk IXc (with 316)

Thunderbolt

am I right ?