Aircraft Trivia Quiz

I found this last week but was hoping someone else would before me and post a new question because I don't have any cool questions, so I'm going to post an ID question.

It will probably be an easy one, but all you need to do is ID this aircraft.

mojodoctor wrote:

Arrggh, ya crafty devil! I believe you may be talking about the Siemens Schuckert 300kg Torpedogleiter built between 1915 and 1918. It later grew to 1000kg which was dropped from an airship in August, 1918. Yes?

A: Siemens Schuckert 300kg Torpedogleiter

Correct! BRAVO!

...and with super-cool actual pictures too! ...right outta the ballpark, Mojodoctor! You're up!

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From the Book (in English language), Gray/Thetford, "German Aircraft of the First World War", maybe you even have this.

About the Siemens-Schuckert torpedo glider, re-translated it reads this: "Between 1915-18, Siemens-Schuckert built more than 100 'glider bombs' of different look. The development went until 1918 to a gross weight of 1000 kg and without doubt they were the forerunners of contemporary guided missiles.
The first take-offs were perfomed from the Siemens-Schuckert hangar in Biesdorf, later successfull inflight launches from airships followed. On 2 August 1918, a 1000 kg missile was dropped from airship L35, control could be kept for a distance of 7,5 km .
The size of these machines varied from 4.1 m for the 300 kg glider to 7.4 m for the 1000 kg missile."

Another picture, from the website of the Zeppelin Museum in Tønder, Denmark (German until 1920, famous airship base in WWI, German name: Tondern

AND________

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The company Siemens-Schuckert worked on remote-controlled torpedoes and air-dropped missiles during 1907 and 1911

Wilhelm von Siemens worked on wire and radio-controlled missiles in the First World War with considerable success, including a radio remote control for a motor boat of the Fa. Röver (a company).
The more spectacular examples were remote-controlled gliders (radio or wire guidance) which carried torpedoes to be released close to the target ship.
This technology was revived for the Second World War, but the fire control problem was insurmountable for the human operator - the technology itself works. It's simply difficult to aim right with such a glider in the terminal phase and to time the release well.

Arrggh, ya crafty devil!

I believe you may be talking about the Siemens Schuckert 300kg Torpedogleiter built between 1915 and 1918. It later grew to 1000kg which was dropped from an airship in August, 1918. Yes?

F-8fanatic wrote:

Brews wrote: The Germans were testing wire-guided missiles at the end of WW1.   I disagree--the first examples of any such testing I have found show that the first flight of a wire-guided missile took place in August 1944, when an X-4 missile was launched from an FW-190.  The design of this missile was started in 1943.  I cannot find any  reference to any other wire-guided weapon before this.  The only other wire-guided weapon developed during that time was the Hs-293B, and that was never actually put into production.  The first guided missiles were introduced in WWI, but neither was designed in Germany.  America designed the Kettering Bug, while England came up with the A.T. missile.  These were simply-guided, and neither one used any sort of wire guidance.  The earliest reference to rocketry in Germany was in the mid-1600s, and that was with unguided rockets.

nuh uh

Brews wrote:

The Germans were testing wire-guided missiles at the end of WW1.

Red hot.

The Chinese were playing around with "wire-guided" rockets during the Ming Dynasty but these were just fireworks guided by a rope.

Brews wrote:

The Germans were testing wire-guided missiles at the end of WW1.

I disagree--the first examples of any such testing I have found show that the first flight of a wire-guided missile took place in August 1944, when an X-4 missile was launched from an FW-190.  The design of this missile was started in 1943.  I cannot find any  reference to any other wire-guided weapon before this.  The only other wire-guided weapon developed during that time was the Hs-293B, and that was never actually put into production. 

The first guided missiles were introduced in WWI, but neither was designed in Germany.  America designed the Kettering Bug, while England came up with the A.T. missile.  These were simply-guided, and neither one used any sort of wire guidance.  The earliest reference to rocketry in Germany was in the mid-1600s, and that was with unguided rockets. 

Yippee. I finally came up with a question that endured for more than 10 minutes! I'm gonna have beer to celebrate.

 I was thinking that I wasn't going to fall for the stall and shovel up clues for you all. (poetic!)

But I'm not here on the week-ends, so I'm going to give a CLUE after all.

CLUE: The weapon in question is quite older than the HS-293 Rocket. Remarkably older.

Have a swell week-end everybody! Get building! I know I am.

F-8fanatic wrote:

trexx wrote: I'm gonna lay a question out here to end the dry spell. What is the name of the early German weapon that could be said to be related to the modern TOW anti-tank missle? Put that in your Google and smoke it!     The first German design using wire-guidance was the Hs-293B rocket-propelled torpedo.  But I dont think that youre looking for that one, I think youre looking for the X-7, which was a modification of the X-4 air-to-air missile.  The X-7 was designed for anti-tank use.  That and the wire guidance make it the earliest version of a TOW system.

Marvelous try, but that is NOT correct.

trexx wrote:

I'm gonna lay a question out here to end the dry spell. What is the name of the early German weapon that could be said to be related to the modern TOW anti-tank missle? Put that in your Google and smoke it!

The first German design using wire-guidance was the Hs-293B rocket-propelled torpedo.  But I dont think that youre looking for that one, I think youre looking for the X-7, which was a modification of the X-4 air-to-air missile.  The X-7 was designed for anti-tank use.  That and the wire guidance make it the earliest version of a TOW system.

I'm gonna lay a question out here to end the dry spell.

What is the name of the early German weapon that could be said to be related to the modern TOW anti-tank missle?

Put that in your Google and smoke it!

F-8fanatic wrote:

Borg R3-MC0 wrote: Ok, a simple question: which aircraft set the world altitude record for manned piston-engined aircraft?   That would be the G 850 Strato 2C.  This was a twin-engine manned aircraft.  The engines were three-stage turbocharged piston engines, with the props mounted in pusher-configuration.  The program went from 1992 to 1995, and the aircraft reached an altitude of 18,500 meters, or about 60,700 feet.  It was also the largest aircraft to be made of carbon fiber.  More info:  http://www.grob-aircraft.de/company/legacy/high-altitude-aircraft/g-850-strato-2c.html

That's the right anwser, over to you.

As a little background information: I have visited the Grob factory once, in 1994 and saw both Strato 1 and 2. The Strato 2 was a very impressive airplane, clean lines, small fuselage and huge wings. Altough the engine pods are very large, the engines themselves occupy little space. Most of the space in the pods goes to the turbochargers. If only someone would make a kit of the aircraft....

Borg R3-MC0 wrote:

Ok, a simple question: which aircraft set the world altitude record for manned piston-engined aircraft?

That would be the G 850 Strato 2C.  This was a twin-engine manned aircraft.  The engines were three-stage turbocharged piston engines, with the props mounted in pusher-configuration.  The program went from 1992 to 1995, and the aircraft reached an altitude of 18,500 meters, or about 60,700 feet.  It was also the largest aircraft to be made of carbon fiber.  More info:

 http://www.grob-aircraft.de/company/legacy/high-altitude-aircraft/g-850-strato-2c.html

I'm guessin'.......

Caproni Ca. 161?

Or, Caproni Ca. 161 bis to be exact.

(Or, upon further research, the Bristol 138.)

Ok, a simple question: which aircraft set the world altitude record for manned piston-engined aircraft?

  I appologize for my sudden absence that caused a massive delay in the fun. I had a family issue that came up...my parents have had to move in with my family and I. It's been a long week of moving and work went nuts too. I got a little overwhelmed. Sorry for the delay in the game. 

Humble Apologies 

 Bill

I think it is the Mirage IIIV. It's Atar engine is a development the BMW 003.

Here's some more info"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Mirage_IIIV

If I remember correctly, after a reasonable length of time (and I think that waiting one week is more than reasonable) the floor is open to anyone who has a question.  I would consider doing so now if only I could come up with something that hasn't been asked so far.

F-8fanatic wrote:

BSouthwell wrote: Jack Broughton .....the Turkestan incident   Bill   Yes, it was Broughton.....and the AF was quite famously stupid for this mess.  Broughton was acting CO of a Thunderchief squadron during Vietnam, and two of his pilots defied standing orders by shooting back when they came under AAA fire over Haiphong Harbor.  One of the pilots made a strafing run, and a Russian supply ship was left full of holes from this incident.  Broughton destroyed gun camera film from one of the planes, and thats why he was charged.  An investigation revealed that the holes in the ship came from NVA anti-aircraft guns, aiming low to try to shoot down the planes.  So, our pilots tried to defend themselves when they came under fire, and our government was more interested in court-martialing someone than they were with letting our troops defend themselves.    Broughton's career was ended because of this mess.  He had previously served two tours with the Thunderbirds if I recall right--in F-84 Thunderjets.  One of those, he was the leader.

This was because we were ignorantly fighting the 'Nam war along the lines of the Korean war where we put up with prolonged and stupid conditions to negotiate a settled Armistice (so-called "peace negoations"), whereas the North Vietnamese actually never intended to settle for a South vs. North Vietman, but were bent on total expulsion of all foreign invaders and all Vietnam under a single government, which they eventually acheived by the following tactic:

Any incident that violated any heretofore agreed upon terms would de-rail those talks and force us to start all over, which is what the Vietnamese wanted (as time was on their side) and prolonged the conflict past the point that was no longer sustainable to the U.S. general public.

So to offset their protest of our "violation" of the "peace talk" agreements, we unfortunately had to affer a "sacrificial lamb by "punishing the innocent" to appease them.

Tom T