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Posted by navypitsnipe on Thursday, February 7, 2008 7:55 PM
i agree, sounds like the JU 52 to me
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Posted by Brews on Thursday, February 7, 2008 6:05 PM
For no better reason than it sounds possible, I'll say "Junkers".
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Posted by trexx on Thursday, February 7, 2008 4:32 PM
 chris hall wrote:

OK, this aircraft, powered by a total of three supercharged engines, was armed with two large-calibre (by the standards of the day for aircraft) cannon. Nevertheless, it wasn't a fighter, in the normal sense of the word, or a ground attack aircraft. Name the manufacturer.

Cheers,

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 Hmmm the Germans made a three motored job that had two wing nacelles with a motor each and a fuselage installation as a third driving a massive blower for supercharging... but what was it's intended use? I dunno... Hmmm

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Thursday, February 7, 2008 3:45 PM
 chris hall wrote:

OK, this aircraft, powered by a total of three supercharged engines, was armed with two large-calibre (by the standards of the day for aircraft) cannon. Nevertheless, it wasn't a fighter, in the normal sense of the word, or a ground attack aircraft. Name the manufacturer.

Cheers,

Chris.

I assume that this one has been Microsoft certified as being "Guaranteed Google Proof"?

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Posted by trexx on Thursday, February 7, 2008 2:00 PM
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This one?

The Nord 1500 Griffon - a ramjet-powered, delta-winged, French supersonic research aircraft, developed in the late 1950s. It was capable of a top speed of Mach 2.15. The data developed was used in the design and development of the Dassault Mirage.

Cheers,

Chris.

Good work, Chris!

I've done an illustration on an old audio cassette cover from that very photo...

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Posted by chris hall on Thursday, February 7, 2008 5:32 AM

OK, this aircraft, powered by a total of three supercharged engines, was armed with two large-calibre (by the standards of the day for aircraft) cannon. Nevertheless, it wasn't a fighter, in the normal sense of the word, or a ground attack aircraft. Name the manufacturer.

Cheers,

Chris.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Thursday, February 7, 2008 4:40 AM

The very one, & you have even saved me from posting a pic.

Your question.

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Posted by chris hall on Thursday, February 7, 2008 4:09 AM

This one?

The Nord 1500 Griffon - a ramjet-powered, delta-winged, French supersonic research aircraft, developed in the late 1950s. It was capable of a top speed of Mach 2.15. The data developed was used in the design and development of the Dassault Mirage.

Cheers,

Chris.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Thursday, February 7, 2008 3:46 AM
DcaponeII - you are nearly there with your most recent offering.
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Posted by dcaponeII on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 9:11 PM

Duh.  The question doesn't even say it's a twin engine jet.  It's probably the NORD 1402 ramjet powered delta-winged prototype.  I'll bet it competed against the Mirage and NORD did in fact go on to build many transport aircraft.  After a couple of mergers it became part of Sud-Aviation.

I'm confusing myself now.

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Posted by dcaponeII on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 9:08 PM

The problem is that the Arrow versions that flew used a set of J-75 engines which are nothing particularily unique.  Even with the Iroquis engine by Orenda I'm not sure that qualifies as a unique powerplant.

Might be that French ramjet twin which I think was built by NORD but I can't remember the aircraft type number.

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Posted by dcaponeII on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 8:43 PM
Just have to wait and see I guess.  I still think the Rapier meets the specification in the question but there are probably others as well.
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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 8:19 PM
That's got to be it...
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Posted by dcaponeII on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 5:45 PM
Black Friday that is.  Feb 20th, 2009 will be 50 years since the end of the program.  We're almost to 50 years since first flight which will be March 28, 2008.  I've been meaning to build the 1/48 Hobbycraft Arrow to celebrate.
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Posted by dcaponeII on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 5:43 PM
Thanks for the hint. The Avro Arrow.  About to be the 50th anniversary of Black Thursday too.  I've got the book sitting right here next to me and it didn't click until you mentioned your hint.
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Posted by Milairjunkie on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 5:18 PM

Sorry folk, none correct so far.

This Particular manufacturer had no real sucsess with mach+ aircraft, most of its products were at the slower end of the market, trainers, transports, liaison............ The company no longer exists as such, following more than one merger.

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Posted by yardbird78 on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 4:45 PM
 Milairjunkie wrote:

OK, this aircraft was developed, flown & wrapped up in the 50s. It featured a delta wing, unusually powerplant type & mach 2+ performance.

An aircraft competing in the same program was however sucsesfull, and has resulted in a family of aircraft which continue to serve today.

Sukoi, SU-9 Fishpot with AL7F-1 engine.  It lost out to the Mig-21 Fishbed.  The SU-9 was a precursor to the SU-15 Flagon, which did enjoy some success as production fighter, including shooting down the Korean 747 airliner KAL 007.

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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 4:37 PM
 trexx wrote:
 Milairjunkie wrote:

OK, this aircraft was developed, flown & wrapped up in the 50s. It featured a delta wing, unusually powerplant type & mach 2+ performance.

An aircraft competing in the same program was however sucsesfull, and has resulted in a family of aircraft which continue to serve today.

 

Lockheed's A-12?

Swedish? ...something that competed against a Saab... I'll bet.

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Posted by dcaponeII on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 4:33 PM
F-107A wasn't delta wing.  I suspect you're looking for the Rapier.  The F-108 was built by North American and was designed to provide escort for the XB-70 should it have made it into production.
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Posted by jlbishop on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 4:27 PM

YF-107A?  (Super Sabre)  This aircraft lost in the feasibility competition to the F-105....

 

John

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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 4:25 PM
 Milairjunkie wrote:

OK, this aircraft was developed, flown & wrapped up in the 50s. It featured a delta wing, unusually powerplant type & mach 2+ performance.

An aircraft competing in the same program was however sucsesfull, and has resulted in a family of aircraft which continue to serve today.

 

Lockheed's A-12?

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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 4:19 PM
 chris hall wrote:
 Milairjunkie wrote:

Did the Tu-91 really have twin turboprops???? All references I can find suggest a single engine?

My main reference for this was 'Soviet X-Planes - Experimental and Prototype Aircraft 1931 to 1989' by Yefim Gordon and Bill Sweetman, published by Motorbooks International in 1992. They say it had two 5000-hp range Kusnetsov NK-6s. Checking on the web, I've found three sources, all of which say it had a single turboprop, but all of which differ in detail. Not mpossible that it might have been a coupled turboprop, like the Armstrong Whitworth Double Mamba, or the Bristol Coupled Proteus, with two separate sets of compressors, combustion chambers and turbines turning a single (or two co-axial) shaft.

Apologies if this caused any confusion.

Cheers,

Chris.

 

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 3:12 PM

OK, this aircraft was developed, flown & wrapped up in the 50s. It featured a delta wing, unusually powerplant type & mach 2+ performance.

An aircraft competing in the same program was however sucsesfull, and has resulted in a family of aircraft which continue to serve today.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 12:21 PM

The answer sure was quick, but dont bet on my question being as quick. I will try and figure something more taxing - if I can make it more taxing than Gordon Brown, it will likley take several decades for the correct answer to be posted.

Later (I really must get back to the day job).

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Posted by artabr on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 12:09 PM
 Milairjunkie wrote:

The Lavochkin La-174D first flew in 1948, lost to the Mig-15, was later developed into the La-15, which went into production & service.

 

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Posted by congo79 on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 12:00 PM
And o thought this would be a tough one Banged Head [banghead]! Milairjunkie, you got it. Well next time it really would be a tough one i already decided what will i ask Tongue [:P]!!!
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Posted by Milairjunkie on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 11:53 AM

The Lavochkin La-174D first flew in 1948, lost to the Mig-15, was later developed into the La-15, which went into production & service.

 

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Posted by congo79 on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 11:27 AM
OK, obviously it`s my turn to throw in a question. I`ll try to put a tough one this time. So, this plane took it`s maiden flight in 1948. It was the main contender in the competition for a new frontline fighter but lost to his rival, who in the end become one of the worlds famous jet fighters. Even though he failed, he was put into production and into full service. The main reason for it`s failure was the narrow undercarriage which made it really unstable on the ground /especially in crosswind and on iced runways/ it also had a little lower rate of climb than its counterpart but it had a staggering manoeuvrebility. Name that aircraft.
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Posted by navypitsnipe on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 9:11 AM
 Milairjunkie wrote:

Nice one!!!!!

Topgun - nice planes, shame about the pilots - I think they must have came from the Cheddar cheese squadron - so no, the crack with Goose does not count. Martin Baker seats as fitted to the F-14 have an intelligent character monitoring system in them, & as such would not attempt to save the likes of these cheesy characters.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 8:44 AM

Nice one!!!!!

Topgun - nice planes, shame about the pilots - I think they must have came from the Cheddar cheese squadron - so no, the crack with Goose does not count. Martin Baker seats as fitted to the F-14 have an intelligent character monitoring system in them, & as such would not attempt to save the likes of these cheesy characters.

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