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Posted by cardshark_14 on Monday, March 17, 2008 7:25 AM
'Fraid not, pal.  Try a different country. Thumbs Up [tup]Smile [:)]
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Posted by Lucien Harpress on Monday, March 17, 2008 8:48 AM

Sigh [sigh].... Couldn't make it obvious, COULD ya?  Wink [;)]

EDIT

That's okay.  I think I got it.  How 'bout the...

CANT Z.511

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Monday, March 17, 2008 8:51 AM
Okay, okay, its Italian and it was to carry a special sort of torpedo...Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by cardshark_14 on Monday, March 17, 2008 9:33 AM
Yep, you got it!  Party [party]Smile [:)]Make a Toast [#toast] Now it's all yours!
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Posted by Lucien Harpress on Monday, March 17, 2008 9:15 PM

You know, that CANT Z.511 is actually quite an attractive aircraft... sort of like an Fw 200 on floats.  Certainly the nicest looking Italian airplane I'VE ever seen.

Anyway, on to the question.  An interesting one for ya:

This aircraft was developed as a fast bomber, the first prototype being built the same year WWII started.  It was similar to the later Do 335 in the fact both aircraft attempted to solve the same problem- how to get the power of twin engines into the low-drag airframe of a single-engined fighter.  The solution used by both was also similar (but NOT identical!).

The first prototype was only fitted with one engine initally and was mounted on skis (a clue as to the country of origin).  It was found to be sluggish with high wing loading due to the small wings used in proportion to the fuselage.  The second engine was eventually fitted, and despite good high-speed performace, landing and takeoff was found to be unsatisfactory due to both wing problems and nose-heaviness.

A second prototype was built, this one inexplicably built with SMALLER wings than the first.  While several planned verisions were put forward, the entire project was scrapped.

A few more interesting notes:

  • The plane had no official designation, although it is most commonly referred by its designer's name and a single letter.  This is the one needed for a correct answer.
  • The designer went on to lead the design team for one of the particular country's first "almost operational" rocket fighters.
  • Resin kits of this aircraft exist made by three different companies- the oldest by a small cottage industry, the second by a Czech company, and the latest by a very well-known larger resin company.  The last is currently in the latest Squadron catalouge.

Enough info?  Well, I'm done.

Have fun... 

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Posted by Brews on Monday, March 17, 2008 11:49 PM
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Posted by Lucien Harpress on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 8:25 AM
And we got it in one!  Party [party]  The floor is yours, Brews!
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Posted by Brews on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:43 AM
This single-engined aeroplane held the world long distance record for about 7 years. Its military counterpart shared a design feature with the B-58. What was the aeroplane, and what was the novel design feature?
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Posted by trexx on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 3:01 PM

 Brews wrote:
This single-engined aeroplane held the world long distance record for about 7 years. Its military counterpart shared a design feature with the B-58. What was the aeroplane, and what was the novel design feature?

 

A:

Vickers Wellesley

...it had removeable "bomb holding pod(s)"

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Posted by Lucien Harpress on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:18 PM

...not to mention the novel feature not shared by the B-58, the first pratical application of the Geodesic building method invented by Barns Wallis and popularized by the Vickers Wellington.  The pods were actually used so the structural integrity of this new technique wouldn't be comprimised.

But I digress.  Wink [;)]

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Posted by trexx on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:28 PM

...or,

One is kinda pointy and the other is... errr... 'not pointy' Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by Brews on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:28 PM

Over to you, Trexx.

The aeroplane that took the long-distance flight record from the Wellesley, by the way, was the B-29.

In East Africa, the RAF Wellesleys caused Mussolini's forces no end of grief. They did a phenomenal amount of damage. 

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Posted by trexx on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:56 PM

Neat-o!

That Wellesley is really a interesting and intriguing airplane!

OK...

 Name the manufacturer & airplane, designed for naval operations that had fixed landing gear that was jettisonable for ditching at sea.

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Posted by Brews on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:18 PM
Sopwith Pup
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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:57 AM

 Brews wrote:
Sopwith Pup

 

No, that's not the plane I had in mind. If the Sopwith Pup had jettisonable landing gear, I just learned it.

 

The airplane I'm thinking of came standard that way. (jettisonable landing gear)

 BTW---> I'm completely thrilled to stump at least ONE forum dude.

MY FIRST! Yippee!

 

Go on... need 'official' name and manufacturer...

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Posted by wdolson2 on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:47 AM

The navalized veersion of the Stuka.

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Posted by Kit builder on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:08 AM
Specifically the Junkers 87C-0, proposed for operation from the KM Graf Zeppelin.

The project was dropped when it became clear that the carrier would never be built.
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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:12 PM

You guys are red hot... but no cigar as of yet!

Much, much less were made of this airplane than the dive bomber you mention.

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Posted by congo79 on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:13 PM

Well, actually that fact is not confirmed. There`s a well known pic of a JU-87 without the legs which is believed to be a test flight for the jetison system. It`s a big fat lie, it`s a retouched pic of a JU-87 B, which touched the water while exiting a steep dive while training for ship attacks /i remember the original photo - the codes were changed to represent a JU-87C-0/, the pilot was punished after the belly landing.

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Posted by telsono on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:14 PM

How about the Fairey Albacore? Which didn't surpass the Swordfish it was supposed to replace.

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Posted by wdolson2 on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:46 PM

All Stukas had jetisonable landing gear so the pilot could make a belly landing if one leg was badly damaged. 

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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:56 PM

The airplane I'm thinking of was designed for naval operations.

...and you've gotten colder by fielding planes from the Commonwealth

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:09 PM
Hmm, how about the Messerschmitt Me 155A which was designed for use on the 'Graf Zeppelin?
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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:16 PM

 cardshark_14 wrote:
Hmm, how about the Messerschmitt Me 155A which was designed for use on the 'Graf Zeppelin?

 

Warm.

The plane I'm thinking of shared a common, single powerplant with the company you mentioned's other premier fighter.

 

Oh, and I should give up a little for the Swordfish mentions now that I think about it...

"common primary weapon as the Fairey built machine"

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:24 PM
Fieseler Fi 167
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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:42 PM

 cardshark_14 wrote:
Fieseler Fi 167

 

YES. Correct.

Fiesler, Fi-167 can hurt your eyes without ever firing a shot! It's development was directly tied with the German aircraft carrier, Graf Zeppelin. Thus, ultimately having a low priority. I think less than a dozen were made. Like the Fiesler "Storch" this torpedo bomber had VSTOL capabilities and was a very stable flyer. It also was one of the few biplanes ever made that had folding wings. If I put that "folding-wing" thing down as a clue, it'd been Googled in a second! HA~!

 

Good work. Isn't it great to learn about airplanes?

 

YOU'RE UP, Cardshark! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:51 PM

Thanks, Trexx.  She sure is ugly!

Well Censored [censored] I went and done it again, this is truly the hardest part of the quiz...Dead [xx(]

Okay, 

This was a multi-engined airplane that was proposed as a bomber interceptor. Though I'm not sure if it ever flew in this role, there was definitely a designation for it. The plan was to use a setup similar to the offensive weaponry of a twin engined ground attack aircraft used by the same country.

Bonus points if you post an image or drawing of this variant, as I've never seen one.

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Posted by Brews on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:00 PM
 trexx wrote:

It also was one of the few biplanes ever made that had folding wings.

Hmmm. Offhand, I can think of Handley Page O/100 from 1916, Fairey Swordfish and Albacore ... and I'm pretty sure that the Hawker Nimrod had hinged wings, too, Fairey Sea Fox, Supermarine Seagull / Walrus, Fairey Flycatcher ... and that's not thinking about US naval types! 

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Posted by Brews on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:05 PM
The only 4 engine plane that I'd entrust to bomber destruction in WWII would be the Ar234C
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Posted by cardshark_14 on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:07 PM
Nope, its not a jet.
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