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Posted by Brews on Saturday, May 17, 2008 10:21 AM
There's little point in glorifying the Boomerang as a fighter. Clive Caldwell hated it, and said that it was anything BUT a boomerang, because it wouldn't come back from combat (or words to that effect). It worked ok as a ground attack a/c - it did have 20mm cannon, but that's about the extent of it.
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Posted by wdolson2 on Saturday, May 17, 2008 5:02 PM
 simpilot34 wrote:

The P-40 was mediocre as well, but you quickly learn to make the best of what you got and improvise, and it worked. Very dependable mill on the front of a Boomerang. Sort of like an Aussie Wildcat if you will.

My guess for the latest is......P-51?

Cheers, Richie

Not a P-51.  The warbird in the lawsuit was rarer.   I'm not sure how many are left, but there aren't many.

 The US learned how to enter combat on their terms against the Japanese and started winning.  The Oscar and Zero had both sacraficed everything for maneuverability at slow speeds.  Allied fighters that were capable of fighting at high speeds were able to beat them.  The P-40 was inferior to the P-47, P-38, and P-51, but with the right tactics, it had the ability to fight Japanese fighters in its terms.

The Boomerang was slow and maneuverable, which put it in the same performance envelope as the Zero and Oscar and both of those planes were superior within that envelope.  It may have been an adequate fighter in 1938, but it was terribly outclassed even when it was designed.

Bill 

 

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, May 17, 2008 8:02 PM
It's a Wirraway. that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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Posted by wdolson2 on Saturday, May 17, 2008 9:07 PM

 bondoman wrote:
It's a Wirraway. that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

In this case, you are correct.  You're up.

 Bill

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, May 19, 2008 1:13 AM

Who is this, what is he building, and what MUCH more successful a/c was he associated with?

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Posted by simpilot34 on Monday, May 19, 2008 5:46 AM
 bondoman wrote:

Who is this, what is he building, and what MUCH more successful a/c was he associated with?

Is that Waldo Waterman, a model of an aircar design, and was associated with the much more famous Waterman Racer?

Cheers, Richie

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, May 19, 2008 9:20 AM
Newwp.
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Posted by bondoman on Monday, May 19, 2008 8:36 PM

Ok I feel bad...all the way to page 2.

This particular designer was quite successful, and sold his company to one of the big US industrial companies.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, May 19, 2008 9:28 PM
Perhaps Lloyd Stearman, with the MP. The A75 Stearman is associated with him, though it was designed after he had left that company.

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, May 19, 2008 11:45 PM

Niet, Comrade, however it occurred to me it might be you at the bench...

Another hint, before being bought out by his much larger competitor in this field, he sold these:

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Posted by Brews on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:50 AM
Total guess - Igor Sikorsky, and helicopters.
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Posted by trexx on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:49 PM

 Brews wrote:
Total guess - Igor Sikorsky, and helicopters.

Igor was a "hairless" genius. LOL

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 6:46 PM
Hmmm, some chance it is Ted Smith, Aero Commander was sold to Rockwell Standard, then the Aerosrar was done by him.  The A-26 is my favorite of his designs, but the Commander was a great flying airplane.  Don't know what the project is he is holding, but the wing has some of the lines of the Aero Commander twins.

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Posted by Matt90 on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:55 PM
Is he Russian?
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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:34 PM

Nein Mein Herren- he's red/white/blue. He built and sold the first as far as I know all metal monoplanes over here, and may have had some connection with a fellow named Hugo.

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Posted by simpilot34 on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:08 AM

Is it William Boeing?

Cheers, Richie

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Posted by chris hall on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:52 AM

That would be William B. Stout, whose main claim to fame is that he was the engineer behind the Ford Trimotor. The Stout Metal Airplane Company was taken over by Ford, who redesigned it for three engines, adding considerably to safety, reliability, payload and commercial success.

He is seen in this picture with a model of the Stout Skycar. This promising project had the major drawback of being deveolped in 1943, a year in which the US avaition industry had one or two higher priorities than a convertable pasenger car/ aircraft.....

For lots of stuff about this admirable gentleman, see here:

 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/07/24/william-b-stout-and-his-wonderful-skycar/#more-992

Cheers,

Chris.

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Posted by roadkill_275 on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:15 PM
 chris hall wrote:
  

He is seen in this picture with a model of the Stout Skycar. This promising project had the major drawback of being deveolped in 1943, a year in which the US avaition industry had one or two higher priorities than a convertable pasenger car/ aircraft.....

Cheers,

Chris.

An interesting aside here is the fact that the USAAF looked at the Skycar, and procurred one example as the XC-65 and a modified one later as the XC-107 Skycar III.

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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:55 PM
Sooo... is Chris CORRECT?!
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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:42 PM

Chris you are correct. The car is a Stout Scarab, which as you probably know is a term for beetle. So he was a forward thinker, I'd say.

He sold his company to Ford at about the same time that GM owned 40% of Fokker (which division later became North American)

And Cord  had bought Lycoming and Stinson, later to all become Vultee.

So these co.s were all making strategic moves to the future.

Chris, your question.

 

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Posted by chris hall on Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:25 AM

OK - what's the link between this:

and this:

? Smile [:)]

Cheers,

Chris.

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Posted by simpilot34 on Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:06 AM

Both were built by Boeing?

Cheers, Richie

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:21 AM
 simpilot34 wrote:

Both were built by Boeing?

Cheers, Richie

No, that cannot be, the giant helicopter is the Huges XH-17, not a boeing. It might have used some parts of the B-29 though, because is used all sorts of different aircrafts parts.

My guess would be that it used the B-29 main gear (altough some sources say it was a C-54 gear)

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Posted by simpilot34 on Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:29 AM
 RemcoGrob wrote:
 simpilot34 wrote:

Both were built by Boeing?

Cheers, Richie

No, that cannot be, the giant helicopter is the Huges XH-17, not a boeing. It might have used some parts of the B-29 though, because is used all sorts of different aircrafts parts.

My guess would be that it used the B-29 main gear (altough some sources say it was a C-54 gear)

Rem, I think your on to something there. Good luck!

Cheers, Richie

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Posted by chris hall on Thursday, May 22, 2008 3:18 AM

Did use some B-29 parts - not the main gear, though - those did, indeed, come from a C-54.

Bonus questioin - if the XH-17 had been put into production, what major factor would have limitied its tactical usefulness?

Cheers,

Chris.

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Posted by simpilot34 on Thursday, May 22, 2008 3:55 AM

It's height off the ground would have severely limited its usefulness I would say.

Cheers, Richie

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Thursday, May 22, 2008 4:06 AM
 simpilot34 wrote:
 RemcoGrob wrote:
 simpilot34 wrote:

Both were built by Boeing?

Cheers, Richie

No, that cannot be, the giant helicopter is the Huges XH-17, not a boeing. It might have used some parts of the B-29 though, because is used all sorts of different aircrafts parts.

My guess would be that it used the B-29 main gear (altough some sources say it was a C-54 gear)

Rem, I think your on to something there. Good luck!

Cheers, Richie

 I think I have found it, the XH-17 had borrowed a fuel cel from the B-29

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Thursday, May 22, 2008 4:08 AM
 chris hall wrote:

Bonus questioin - if the XH-17 had been put into production, what major factor would have limitied its tactical usefulness?

Cheers,

Chris.

The range of the XH-17 was very short because, less then 100 km, because of the gas guzzeling rotor-tip jets. That was a servere limitation.

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Posted by chris hall on Thursday, May 22, 2008 4:15 AM

That's the one - B-29 fuel cell! Well done, Rem!

It wasn't so much the height of the thing that would have been a problem - after all, many crane helicopters (CH-54, Mil-10R Harke) are long-legged, so that payloads can be driven beneath them. This was particulalry important in early aerial cranes, which had very poor fuel economy, and needed to have the load hooked on before the engines were fired up.

And yes, you're right about the range - one smallish fuel tank and two very powerful (by late 1940s standards) turbojets acting as gas generators for a max. range (that's range, not tactical radius) of 40 miles!

Your turn, Rem! 

Cheers,

Chris.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:13 AM

My turn? oh dear..

 OK, the XH-17 had rotor jets. What other helicopter with rotor jets whent into production and was used in the United Kingdom, Germany, Israel, the Netherlands and ...New Guinea?

 

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