what does it take??

paintsniffer wrote:

Rob Gronovius wrote: Pictures of completed models appear to be a touchy subject on this site. On one hand you will have some folks who will post an endless stream of great jobs, even when the job isn't so great. I've noticed constructive criticism (often called nitpicking or rivet counting) is not well received on this site.   I know what you mean.. I posted something finished. It is no prize winner, but after a long break from the hobby I thought I did decent. I only got a few responses.. I guess it was so bad the nitpickers even stayed away.    Oh well, regardless of how well loved my work is.. I am getting better from reading the forum. I build for me, not you guys.

agreed! but some sort of "stimuli" would be appreciated! i have never had other than rob and hans the "so called experts" give me even a second of advice!!! cant help but wonder why we have the forums other than to communicate long distantly! hmmm....! well, i know its not true but sometimes cant help but wonder!

Rob Gronovius wrote:

Pictures of completed models appear to be a touchy subject on this site. On one hand you will have some folks who will post an endless stream of great jobs, even when the job isn't so great. I've noticed constructive criticism (often called nitpicking or rivet counting) is not well received on this site.

 

I know what you mean.. I posted something finished. It is no prize winner, but after a long break from the hobby I thought I did decent. I only got a few responses.. I guess it was so bad the nitpickers even stayed away. 

 

Oh well, regardless of how well loved my work is.. I am getting better from reading the forum. I build for me, not you guys. 

yeah i hadnt thought about that one either rob. i suppose especially 4 u that uncle sam keeps a close eye on what u can and cant look at!! thanks 4 the insight!

btw guys, if i am to listen to your advice am i to assume the reason i dont get many responses is because no one likes my stuff hence the "if u dont have anything good to say dont say it" stuff??? just curious...

During the day, a lot of users access this site while at work. A lot of work networks block viewing photos hosted on various web hosting sites. Therefore, they will not see photos embedded in forum posts and thus cannot comment.

ok...i can see everyone's point of view. myself personally, i am not looking for "at-a-boy's" but i certainly would like to know if im on the right path doing things right or whatever...but again perhaps im looking too deeply into the whole thing. i see its really a whole range of issues as to "why/why not". thanks for the responses guys.

It also helps to be a shameless self-promoter.. That way you'll get hundreds of "ata boys" and "best i've ever seen" with every piece glued or brush stroke. Some will laugh at that and some won't.. but it's true

Personally, as far as questions go, if I don't have documentation to back it up then I normally won't say anything unless the person actually ask for opinions rather than fact. I don't have the time or inclination to post responses to topics just for the fun of it.

Just my 2 cents.. take it as that.

Usually, if the poster adds "cooments/critiques welcome" or some similar phrase along with the pic(s) posted they will tend to garner more feedback. Several pics from different angles will increase the comments because the chance for more aw sh!t/attaboys increases. As for me, I will offer opinions on things which I feel I have knowledge of when they are generally requested. If someone wants a crtique, I will point out what I may notice or ask questions as to how they achieved a certain result. To me a critique should be dont to improve/correct a flaw found, and in a tactful manner. And I try to go by the old guideline of "if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all".

Pictures of completed models appear to be a touchy subject on this site. On one hand you will have some folks who will post an endless stream of great jobs, even when the job isn't so great. I've noticed constructive criticism (often called nitpicking or rivet counting) is not well received on this site.

Thus you have a Catch-22 situation. Many "great jobbers" responses have been followed by "nitpickers" making the "great jobbers" look a little silly when obvious mistakes are pointed out (missed seams, crooked parts, etc.). So the "great jobbers" hold off until a "nitpicker" points out the glaring errors.

The "nitpickers" are hesitant to point out errors for fear of incurring the wrath of the site's  [self-appointed forum police] with a chorus of "be nice", "what have you posted lately", "who cares about accuracy, it looks great any way" comments. Many nitpickers have adopted the "if you can't say anything nice, don't" philosophy and stay silent.

Often, half of the thread orignally posting a completed model turns into a tit for tat between the forum police and nitpickers with the occasional great job thrown in.

well sure, i can understand that rob. but am i to understand if i post a model pic that it needs to be accompanied by an opinion to get a response? perhaps im just looking at it in a different way which is making it harder to really understand...wouldnt be the first time. trust me though rob i get what your saying. i guess i see it as if someone took the time to post pics/?'s of their work and i took the time to look...i should make the effort to to help them or compliment/scorn (lol) them by posting a response...! i guess its wrong for me to expect everyone else to think like me though...maybe that's where my problem really lies...... thanks for the response rob!

You will get more responses on a question that requires just an opinion rather than a true knowledge or understanding.

For example, if one posts a new photo of their latest project, it will get all sorts of "taste great, less filling" responses.

Ask about what Tiger tank kit best represents the type used during July 1944 in Southern France, you may only get one or two responses because the depth of information is rather specific and maybe only a few guys on this site may actually know what type was there and then of the few, maybe only a couple would know would know which kit would be best representative.