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Maybe I'm getting old. Maybe I'm just looking for something to complain about.

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  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Panama City, Florida, Hurricane Alley
Posted by berny13 on Friday, January 15, 2010 4:34 PM

I agree.  When Monogram first released their century series of 1/48 scale aircraft I jumped on them as soon as possible.  I bought several of each only to later read some of the reviews on each kit.  Not a single positive comment on them.  The shape of this is all wrong.  The shape of that is all wrong.  To me they looked good, so I tuned them out and continued to build them.

The 1/48 scale RA-5C from trumpeter has had more negative comments than good.  I could care flipping less if the shape of the nose isn't 100% correct.  To me it looks just fine.  So what if the tail cone isn't correct.  How much sleep am I going to loose over that one?

If I am going to build a kit of an aircraft that I know inside and out, I'll take the time to fix what errors can be fixed and leave the rest alone. 

This same topic came up about five or six years ago on this site.  Some one commentd that some people tear a new kit apart so they can be first in line.  They can then say," I told you so".  They get enjoyment out of being the critic of bad things.  They can dish it out but they can't take it. 

I am in this hobby to enjoy it, not work my self into a heart attack.  I very seldom pay much attention to these type of people. 

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Friday, January 15, 2010 4:00 PM

I agree with you guys 100% and then some! In the end, I do like it I do in real life when a supervisor at work goes on about some incident that occured and I was not party to.... tune it out and go about my business. I am always happy to see new releases. I may not be able to afford most of them these days, and really could care less about some tiny detail being wrong, I just like seeing what can be done. I just wish it could be done less costly. Thats what a big stash and ebay are for...Whistling

 

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  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: Neenah, WI
Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Friday, January 15, 2010 3:34 PM

I'm with ya on this my friend. Why is it that the negative comments and attitudes are the loudest and most heard? The vocal minority in this hobby are making it uncomfortable through this new conduit of communication...the Internet and forums such as this one.

I have taken my lumps  Black Eye on other forums trying to stand my ground to express my viewpoints. There are those who though agree with me, will not share the pain on the cross of public opinion They do share their feelings with me privately. I'm glad I am not alone in my opinion!

Someone recently shared with me his opinion as to why these people bash kits.The Internet gives them a security otherwise not afforded them in a face to face environment. I wonder how many knuckle sandwiches would be served had some of these people been in the same room while having the same controversial conversations?I'd probably deliver a few. Wink

So this hobby of ours becomes a relief mechanism...a check valve. Anyone can create an alias identity and speak as they feel regardless if it shows a lack of respect for others, including mfrs, distributors and retailers. You don't like something fine, address it in the proper way...direct it to the source don't dwell on it here in a public forum. I for one get tired of hearing the tirades over and over again. If the product isn't to your personal liking okay, it is however to millions of others. Your "perfect" model will come in time and who knows maybe even at an affordable price.

A good example of a company that is apparently doing it right is Wingnuts. Has anyone heard of anyone bashing their products before they hit the streets? Not that I have heard. Why. Because these guys didn't go around bashing others, they went and proved it could be done. So to those who belly ache and complain about the imperfect kits...go do what they did...show us how it is suppose to be done! Quit being a forum bully and put up or shut up already.

You know...what if we had the ability to look at each person before they were born to see what they looked like and how they would act? Nope not this one, it has fatal flaws!!! No I wanted a boy not a girl or vice versa. You got the nose too big. The toes are splayed too far. How many of those we hear complaining would be around to do so? Whistling

The only way to eliminate these conversations is for the mfr to cater to their every whim, but that is an impossible feat. You can not be all things to all people. Or heavily moderate these forums...have a penalty system in place...with warnings, suspensions and revocation of membership. The technology is in place to block IP addresses.The hosts have that right, you are here at their pleasure. But as they say the blade swings both ways it would cost something.

So we must persevere to endure, thicken our skin and learn to ignore those which try to steal our joy. Slip on your rubber boots and prepare for a little rain...or someone pissing on your shoes. Angry They aren't leaving anytime soon unfortunately.

 

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

  • Member since
    December 2003
  • From: Indiana
Maybe I'm getting old. Maybe I'm just looking for something to complain about.
Posted by hkshooter on Friday, January 15, 2010 2:28 PM

But I have to rant for a second.

In the last couple of weeks I've observed on two different occasions people complaining about faults or problems they see in kits that arent even on the market yet!
They see CAD drawings or sprue shots and find things wrong with the kit. OMG, give me a break!!!
Nowhere is the manufacuter complimented for working on new kits for us. Nowhere are any positive things mentioned about the kit, like what's right about it.
No, people with lots of time and no lives are pouring over drawings and test shots looking for something wrong.
It's unbelievable and sometimes, like today, it makes me want to scream. Why can't folks look at the positive and be happy that we are able to build models at all. Why can't they be happy that manufacterers are releasing new kits and putting forth the effort to offer products that are improvements over past products.

These things I see make me all the more happy to read posts like the recent post in A/C about kit price limits and some of the comments made there. Doing it the old fashion way with the meager offerings available. And being happy to do it.
I swear that if a company gets the shape right, someone will b###ch about the cord. If they get the cord right someone will b###ch about the hinges. If they get the hinges right someone will b###ch  about the fabric detail. If that's right they'll b###ch  about the stitching detail. If that's right they'll complain about the wrong fabric detail was used. Because everyone knows that they didn't use malaysian cotton on the plane in the month of production, it's obviously supposed to be Egyptian cotton!
It all really makes me like certain folks less and less.

Does it affect me directly? Nope. Will I lose sleep over it? Nope. Will I model inspite some microscopic detail being incorrect? Yep. Will I model over some BIG detail being incorrect? Yep.
But d#mn, people, why can't we just love the hobby? Build models without stressing ourselves over insignificant things like fabric detail or length being off a scale farking half inch.
Or better yet, not extend the annal stress out into cyber oblivion in order to have others stress over it.

Not long ago I read a post (not here) where someone was stressing HUGE over a detail on a plane. They went into this big detailed post about what was supposed to be wrong with the kit and wanted the forum public at large to tell them what they should do about it. The kicker? One of the last lines in the post was something like "I really can't see a problem with it but...."
They admitted they can't see the supposed problem but were all worked up over it and wanted someone else to tell them how to fix what they couldn't see!!! That's a sure sign that none of the kit/manufactering bashing is doing anyone any good.

Now that I've vented I feel much better. I hope you've smiled at my own ranting about something not being quite right. But it's something I think about from time to time. And now, I'm going to go grind on my 1/48 SR-71 that everyone knows is just the most perfect kit ever produced.Wink

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