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First Annual Berny Memorial Group Build

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  • Member since
    November 2010
  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, January 9, 2012 6:32 PM

Hi Kugai,

Welcome, and don't get too caught up in the accuracy.  I think everyone is taking what I said the wrong way so I am going to edit that first post.  I don't think we need to be looking for perfection.  I personally enjoy doing the research.  Like I did say, I am not going to police anyone's model.  The main idea is to have fun.  If you simply want to just build something straight out of the box, that is fine.

Ken

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    November 2010
  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, January 9, 2012 6:25 PM

TD4438

Count me in with an F-4.A memorial group build is a great way to honor him.

Great!  Welcome aboard TD4438!

Ken

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  • From: Huntington, WV
Posted by Kugai on Monday, January 9, 2012 10:08 AM

I'll definitely consider this one.  Since I usually build Sci Fi, the historical accuracy won't be something I'm used to, but I can give it a try.

About the only thing I can think of from the stash that's likely to fit is the "Strawberry B****" kit in the stash.  If I end up signing up for the build and decide on that as my contribution, it'll be a good excuse for a trip to the Air Force museum.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, January 9, 2012 7:26 AM

Ken,

Nothing in my stash really jumped out as reminding me of Berny. If you would give me till the kick-off date of Feb 22 I'm sure something will suggest itself though. Please put me down for something to be decided by then.

Thanks again!

Cliff 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by TD4438 on Monday, January 9, 2012 7:09 AM

Count me in with an F-4.A memorial group build is a great way to honor him.

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, January 8, 2012 9:30 PM

Hi Jim,

That would not be a problem as long as you are pointing out the inaccuracies.  That is the same thing.  I know Berny would love to have you on board on this build!

Ken

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Posted by jimbot58 on Sunday, January 8, 2012 8:56 PM

Ken, I don't know if I will participate in this one or not as it seemed I had a hard enough time keeping up with the Rhinobuild II. I was considering entering my already-in-progress Trumpeter F-105G in 1/72nd scale, but if the build is calling for accuracy, this is not the kit for it. I know at least from what I have read that several things are wrong. Markings are incorrect, tail is the wrong size, bottom fin is wrong, and some issues exist in the cockpit. None of those things I plan to correct, though I am adding PE sets for both the interior and exterior.

Jim

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, January 8, 2012 9:34 AM

Hi Bondoman,

Very good to have you on board.  I am sure Berny will be glad to know you are here.  Yes, he was actually involved in a group build building an TF-102 when he passed away.  That would be a good plane to build.  I plan on building that some day myself.  I have the conversion kit from C & H Aero Miniatures.

Ken

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    November 2010
  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, January 8, 2012 9:27 AM

Hi Cliff,

It is great to have you join.  I am sure Berny will be happy to know you are here.  It is truely an honor to do this for him.

Ken

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Saturday, January 7, 2012 11:56 PM

I would be pleased to join up.

Berny had some stick time as I recall in a TF-102 while stationed in Germany. I'll have to go back through his posts, but it had to do with inflight testing of radar systems, I think. He was working on that a couple of years ago. I am in for that one.

Hans PM incoming.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Saturday, January 7, 2012 9:46 PM

Ken,

Hmm, one thing I don't have is much in the way of 'century series' jets. 

As you said I'm certain there's something in my stash. I'll look though it see if there's anything that reminds me of Berny.

Thanks again for doing this for him,

Cliff

 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, January 7, 2012 8:50 PM

Hi Gamera,

Well, I do know that when we visited the U.S. National Air Force Museum he did mention that he really liked the F-84E.  Another aircraft he was associated with was the F-102.  I do know a very short list of kits he had on his shelves which included the following:

Republic F-84G Thunderjet

A-7D L.T.V. Corsair II

F-14D Tomcat

F/A-18F Super Hornet

F-8E Crusader

F-8J Crusader

F-100C Super Sabre

F-100D Super Sabre

F-100F Super Sabre

F-4B/N Phantom II

F-4C/D Phantom II

F-14A Grumman Tomcat

Like I said, this is just a short list, he had a lot more, so don't limit yourself.  I personally would just pick something that you would want to build.  I think that is what he would want you to do.

Ken

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    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Saturday, January 7, 2012 8:13 PM

Ken,

Thanks for the initiative on this, a great idea. I'd like to do something but I don't have any idea what to go with, I'd like something connected with Berny in some way and I don't have anymore Phantoms in the stash and really don't want to buy another right now.

Please list me a probable I'll have to give this some thought.

Is there any favorite aircraft, AFVs, Berny had other the F-4?

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, January 7, 2012 5:31 PM

Here is a very condensed history in his own words:

I never was a crew chief on the C model.  I went from the RF-4C in Nam to the F-4D in Thailand.  From there to the 2952 CLSS at Hill AFB where I spent the next year and a half traveling all over SEA repairing battle damaged F-4's.  Then to Eglin AFB, FL on the F-4E, to Zaragoza AB Spain where I worked in QC on the F-4.  My next F-4 assignment was Kadina AB, Okinawa, Homestead AFB, FL, both on the F-4D.  From there to Spangdahlm AB Germany on the F-4E/G and finally to George AFB, CA on the F-4E.  The last aircraft I was Crew Chief on was F-4E 69-260 at Eglin AFB, but only for a very short time as by then I was a TSgt and became more of a supervisor than a mechanic.

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, January 7, 2012 5:26 PM

Hi Hans,

That is correct.  He was in the Air Force for 26 years and spent the most part on the F-4.

Ken

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, January 7, 2012 5:20 PM

Thanks... I haven't built a post-Korean War Jet since well, since I built one of Dad's Phantom about 35 years ago...  Hopefully, I can do it justice, for both Berny and th' Old Man... BTW, IIRC Berny was a USAF F-4 Maintainer, right?  Not Navy or USMC?

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, January 7, 2012 4:08 PM

Welcome aboard Hans!  It is good to have you.  I know Berny would be pleased!

Ken

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, January 7, 2012 3:52 PM

Well, since Berny was a Phantom Phixer, and my Dad was, at the end of his career, a Phantom Phlyer, I can see my way to making a break from my usual aircraft genre to do a Double Ugly...

Count me in with a Monogram 1/48 USAF F-4C/D...

  • Member since
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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
First Annual Berny Memorial Group Build
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, January 7, 2012 10:53 AM

Greetings fellow modelers,

As a few of you know, Berny, aka Berny13, passed away a few months ago.  He was an avid modeler and a good friend.  In his honor, I will be hosting a group build.  At first, I tried to find out what planes he was associated with while he was in the United States Air Force and use that list as a theme.  But as I started going through all of his posts, I realized that he had modeled almost every subject possible.

He started out with cars.  At one point he modeled armor.  And when he did model planes, he even modeled Migs, so it seemed that nothing was off limits.  I also know that he had an attitude that you should at the very least enjoy building your model.  So I finally decided that there would be no particular theme to this build except one.  HAVE FUN!

So the rules to this build will be very short and simple.  YOU HAVE TO PARTICIPATE!  It is funny, I have only participated in one group build that lasted a full year, but I did notice something that bothered me.  There were a number of people who it seemed rather obvious were only there to collect the stupid badge.  A group build in my opinion is supposed to bring people together and share ideas, help each other with problems, answer questions, and even proudly show your accomplishments with.

The following paragraph is a new edit to the original post.

I am making an edit to this post because I realized that some people were taking the following paragraph to the extreme, which is not what I meant.  All I mean by "authentic" is, if you are going to build strictly "out-of-the-box" (OOB), simply state that.  If you are going to make modifications, please either do research to back up the modification or simply state that you "like doing it that way".  I just don't want someone making stuff up.  I want to keep this build fun, not a chore.

There is just one more rule to this build.  Berny was very particular to being authentic when building his models.  I will not be the one checking each person’s model to see if the paint colors, squadron, years, etc. are correct for each model.  I will leave that to each individual.  (If I happen to know the answer I will be happy to respond!)  For me, that is a big part of modeling, doing the research.  It will be good though for participants to ask if anyone else in the build knows the answer, that is the great thing about a group build.  Just do the best you can, there will be no firing squad if you get something wrong.  After all, we are all human, and we all do make mistakes!

I am going to start the build on Berny’s birthday, which is February 22.  Anything and everything that you can build is acceptable (within the restrictions of this site of course!).  It can be something you are building on another group build.  You can build as many models as you like.  Beginners and experts alike are welcome.  This build will last one year, ending on February 21, 2013.

All finished builds will be entered on the first page of the build.  This is not a contest of speed.  It is a contest of fun.  I will have the badge ready at the start of the build.  I would like to start a list on this post of interested persons and what they are going to enter on the build.  So anyone interested, please let me hear from you!

Ken

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