VERACITY , HONESTY , and MODELING FUN

My favourite model righ now is my 1/35 AH-1W with Canadian markings.  The cockpit is German Grey.  I like it so much I want to make another when I've improved my skills.

TarnShip

only for RF-4s though, Hans,,,,if they were fighter aircraft, they had more differences that the control sticks,,,,,,,,RF-4 are the only airframes that look the same between both services

 

ahhh,,,,,,,one very small group of exceptions,,,,,the Gray over White F-4B that the AF borrowed from the USN and then later returned to the USN,,,,,,but, then,,,,the stick deal doesn't apply

That's why I didn't tie my hands in the scenario and state which variant of either Phantom...  Just a general detail that is easily overlooked by a builder that didn't do any research.... There's no excuse for that in this century, lol..

Kinda like judging armor models too.. If you have an open hatch, there better be some kind of gizmos in there that a judge can see... 

agree on that hatch deal, Hans

I feel sooooo let down if I see a nice huge tank model, the turret hatch is open,,,,,,and I look down in there and all I see is the molded on plastic kit turret ring,,,,,,,,,geeeeesh, at least find your best Schultz and stand him in that hole, lol

tankbuilder, I have absolutely nothing to add to the discussion, but I have to add that your posts would be so much easier to read and comprehend if you would take the time to use some paragraphs instead of just "blitzing" your thoughts down in a huge rambling narrative without pause...you might even make your point clearer than you have here...

In fact....uh.....what was your point?

as an aside.. or addition..depending on your point of view for color conversation,,,

I spent 13 years in the automotive industry selling parts.. and paint.. with Paint/refinishing being my specialty.. PPG was my brand, and they sent me to 5 differant schools. Learned mixing... blending.. refinishing.. and color matching.. etc...and I spray paint the full size stuff to.. Firetrucks.. airplanes... cars.. boats...motocycles.. etc..

GM white is not FORD white.. is not Chrysler white, is not Toyota white.. and none of them are WHITE... trying to please some bodyshop guys it very akin to some arguements that go on in here..

Its really all in the eye of the beholder...do what makes YOU happy...

the doog

In fact....uh.....what was your point?

Maybe I can help ya, Doog.. This was what I gleaned from it, anyway..

...why all the fuss about exact colors and armament etc. etc.  This is a hobby ?  well , I think we need to start treating it as such .  If you are building for a company or a military museum then accuracy is paramount .If you are building for pleasure ,WHO CARES !!,

let me enjoy your craftsmanship and imagination . The idea of the thing getting so serious that the very history of a man and his models can be destroyed or put into doubt by a few self appointed " EXPERTS " is sickening to me .

I am finding that when I take a model to a show or contest the first thing I get asked (besides what kit is that ) is where did you get the color or camo information .Did you know that the army you portray this unit in didn,t use it .Hmmm ,, Does everyone do that serious amount of research on a model ?  We didn,t have to years ago and it was NOT a requirement .It was a hobby .

I do mean this though .Going to a show or contest is no fun anymore . They worry more about historical accuracy , than how well I built the model ( that is considered , after the fact ) and did I really have fun doing it ?

so, then, P-38, you of all people know that there is one correct white for any given car/year,,,,,and 147 wrong whites for that same car/year

that is what a spec is, it is all that simple

Hans von Hammer

 

the doog:

 

In fact....uh.....what was your point?

 

 

Maybe I can help ya, Doog.. This was what I gleaned from it, anyway..

 

 

...why all the fuss about exact colors and armament etc. etc.  This is a hobby ?  well , I think we need to start treating it as such .  If you are building for a company or a military museum then accuracy is paramount .If you are building for pleasure ,WHO CARES !!,

let me enjoy your craftsmanship and imagination . The idea of the thing getting so serious that the very history of a man and his models can be destroyed or put into doubt by a few self appointed " EXPERTS " is sickening to me .

I am finding that when I take a model to a show or contest the first thing I get asked (besides what kit is that ) is where did you get the color or camo information .Did you know that the army you portray this unit in didn,t use it .Hmmm ,, Does everyone do that serious amount of research on a model ?  We didn,t have to years ago and it was NOT a requirement .It was a hobby .

I do mean this though .Going to a show or contest is no fun anymore . They worry more about historical accuracy , than how well I built the model ( that is considered , after the fact ) and did I really have fun doing it ?

 

I worked for a high end interior designer for a while. He stated 'there are 200 shades of white'

That being said there are just two paint shade items in modeling which grind my gears:

Panzer gray is NOT a shade of blue! Sargent Furry & his Howling Commandos was a great comic book but poor on the accuracy of WWII subjects.

NEVER dry brush pure yellow to highlight military green! Yes its true some WWII olive drab paint was a mix of flat black and flat yellow paint yet straight yellow edges looks unrealistic.

The rest is a matter of personal preference and artistic merit. 'Enter them all & let the judges sort em' out!'

TarnShip

so, then, P-38, you of all people know that there is one correct white for any given car/year,,,,,and 147 wrong whites for that same car/year

that is what a spec is, it is all that simple

Fords, Chevys, Chryslers seen seperatly all look the same white.. till you park them side by side..