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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Wednesday, September 5, 2012 4:50 PM

And on that note, this conversation is closed. Let's keep it civil. Name calling and other such activities have no place on the FSM Forum.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Wednesday, September 5, 2012 4:46 PM

dirkpitt77

As regards Pawel's capitalism post, read the whole thing. He makes the point that any company's (Kalmbach in this case) primary interest is $$$$$.  Wider audience = more $$$$.  Widest audience is achieved by keeping it family-friendly.  Some of you need to work on your reading comprehension skills. I understood his post just fine.

Take it easy with the tone, bro.  

I understood his post loud and clear.  But anyone who brings up "capitalism at its worst" in regards to someone being banned...for reasons he knew nothing about...is doing nothing more than attempting to let everyone know where he stands politically.  It served no purpose other than to start a 5 page political shouting match.  And its a rediculous opinion that he (or you) cannot logically defend.

Just because a company (Kalbach in this case) wants to keep a site family friendly to help generate more money IN NO WAY represents capitalism at its worst...not whatsoever.

And you question our reading comprehension skills?  After reading your post I comprehend that you're a bit of a jerk.  I'd say that means you need to work on your people skillz.

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Posted by dirkpitt77 on Wednesday, September 5, 2012 3:23 PM

As regards Pawel's capitalism post, read the whole thing. He makes the point that any company's (Kalmbach in this case) primary interest is $$$$$.  Wider audience = more $$$$.  Widest audience is achieved by keeping it family-friendly.  Some of you need to work on your reading comprehension skills. I understood his post just fine.

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Posted by echolmberg on Wednesday, September 5, 2012 1:59 PM

Fly-n-hi

Pawel

I've seen it too many times on these forums - it's capitalism at it's worst.

Paweł

WTF???

Ditto  I have to wonder what capitalism has to do with things.

I've seen Bondo regularly on other forums.  I'm not sure in the least what all happened here on the FSM forum but I know he's kind of a jerk on the other forums.  Someone can ask a question and he'll make the asker feel like an idiot because he feels they should have known the answer already and the topic was already brought up eight years ago and blah, blah, blah.  His responses lend nothing to the questions being asked other than to ridicule the person asking the question.

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Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, September 5, 2012 9:05 AM

Now I believe you didn't understand something I wrote - can I clarify something for you? Have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 3:42 PM

Pawel

I've seen it too many times on these forums - it's capitalism at it's worst.

Paweł

WTF???

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 3:07 PM
@professordeath. I do not agree with you. I for one am an "veteran" member, I am on this forum since 2004. But my post do not automatically attract huge following. Other members (doogatx,swanny,chuckw) get a great following. And I am totally cool with that. Those guys are far better modellers then I am, you can learn a lot visiting those treads.

Furthermore, I myself always try to welcome new modellers, even if it means just giving them a few attaboys.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 9:20 AM

Thanks Aaron, I knew there had to be more involved here than one piece of nose art.

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 8:45 AM

Gents,

It goes without saying that what was posted was way, way over the line of what is acceptable. It wasn't nose art or anything else even remotely connected to modeling, figure or otherwise. If you didn't see it, it's because it was brought to our attention by a member and taken down as quickly as possible, As has been stated many times, we don't take banning members lightly but we were left with little choice in the matter. This is all we are going to say on this matter so how's about we move on to modeling.

Cheers, Aaron

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 8:20 AM

Mods: If you would I'd love to hear your side of the story?

Missed the whole thing, there's got to be more to this than one saucy picture. Dunce

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Posted by corvettemike on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 6:09 AM

Bish

 am i just not looking hard enough?

Look up hentai figures Whistling Seen a few actually engaged in....uh....acts...

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 5:36 AM

While i can understand the point raised by Mike about haveing to be carefful not to offend someone looking to make a quick buck by sueing, this does seem a tad extreme. I didn't see the model he posted, but i can say i have ever come across figure models that were that bad, or am i just not looking hard enough. Some of the nose arts on some aircraft are a bit naughty, but this are historical aircraft, do we really want to censor history.

The 1942 GB badge could be considered naughty by some, while others have a much more open mind. Rather than going to the extreme that we have here, surely there is a better way of deling with this, and its not like we get these sort of models every day.

It is sad to lose bondo, and it would be sad to lose any more members, whether they be new to the sight or old timers. The wealth of experiance on here is second to none in my book and we have always been able to have a laugh, usually without it getting out of hand (ok, Jeff might not agree).

Jimmy, do you really get the feeling of being ignored because your post count isn't that high.

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Posted by sub revolution on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 5:23 AM

I'm with troublemaker on this one. What other forums is everyone on? It seems that any amount of fun here has been taken away, and now the forum is too quiet.

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 4:58 AM

wel maybe this forum is just "over the hill". A lot of old members have gone and activity has come to a grinding halt. Banning senior members is certainly not going to help reviving this forum.

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Posted by TomZ2 on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 1:21 AM

[whatsacominago] ???

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 1:16 AM

yeah, a time out/penalty box here would be a good idea... after too many red cards then you're gone...

 

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 1:11 AM

Sigh. Well that is sad. He and I have conversed off the boards for years. Seems innocent enough, though I never saw the post. Personally, he should just chill out with Manny in the cooler for a while and say a couple of Hail Mary's and Our Fathers. LOL

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Posted by corvettemike on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 12:13 AM

Much as Bondo getting axed stinks it's still not as bad as some other forums I've been on. You probably get a little more leway from other private forums but remember this is a corporate run forum. They have responsabilities and well grounded fears. In today's easily offended society a if little johnny sees a nude woman and mommy gets offended there are potentially alot of problems for Kalmbach, so that's probably why the zero tolerance. Heck the same thing goes on on Scaleautomag.com where you can get a ban hammer if you don't edit out the confederate flag on the roof of the General Lee and you can't post the Corvette "Rebel Racer" because the whole car is a rebel flag. Why? Because some random passer by might get offended.

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, September 3, 2012 10:55 PM

In FSM's defense I asked the Mods specificly about nude nose art. The post that Bondo was axed over was not a nude nose art. I had concerns because I have one of that  sort just finished which I was about to post, and one several more on my to do soon list. I spoke with Bondo directly and while the photo he posted was a nude and not nose art he did not think that it was offensive or out of line. But we all have different values regarding this stuff.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, September 3, 2012 10:32 PM

noted Mr Nuovo...

 

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Posted by castelnuovo on Monday, September 3, 2012 10:19 PM

So here we go again... Looks like communist/taliban state, that is, forum...This is BS...go ahead now...ban me for life.

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, September 3, 2012 9:32 PM

Bondo got BANNED???!!!

WTF, over????!!!!!

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Monday, September 3, 2012 8:59 PM

What are some of the other forums around? I`ve been primarily a Finescale forum member as I never really felt the need to go elsewhere. If there`s going to be unconditional banishments, I think I may want to start exploring other outlets for my modeling. Whatever happened to progressive discipline? Ban someone for a first offense? Sounds like where I work, and it`s wrong IMO.

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Monday, September 3, 2012 8:46 PM

I don't what happened here, but sorry to hear about this censorship.  It seems the humor we used to enjoy is now totally lacking.  We're big boys here, should be able to have a little fun within reason.

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by AT6 on Monday, September 3, 2012 8:39 PM

Boy how things go to hell when I fail to login or check this site out for a while. I had no idea that Bondoman was bannished. From the comments I've read, it sounds like the Taliban have taken over here. Well, back to outlands where I find true freedom.

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Posted by Reasoned on Monday, September 3, 2012 8:33 PM

Huh?

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Monday, September 3, 2012 5:14 PM

The ultimate unplugging protection;

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, September 3, 2012 5:00 PM

Perhaps I will be next for an interview?

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Monday, September 3, 2012 4:54 PM

Stik - your pic isn't displaying?

There must be a glitch in the Matrix!

Or is it just a problem on the tubes Propeller

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