Who would want to see an uncut video of a build, all 15-20 hours?

Tojo72

To be effective, it should be broken into sub assemblies that could be accessed at the point needed

Right?! I'm thinking it could solve so many of the questions on this forum.

Even simple steps like cutting the pieces off the sprue can lead to questions, like when you're dealing with tiny pieces, for example ("How do I cut something so small without breaking it?")

I'd be so for this.

You would literally be watching paint and glue dry.

ohms

Sounds crazy, I know. But I can't help but think it would be such a good resource for people. 

Put literally everything in there except the drying times. Surely the world could do with two or three of such videos.

Has anyone ever considered this? 

I've never built a model in 15-20 hours. More like 150-200 so I wouldn't want to inflict that on anyone.

Bill

I'd prefer to spend that 15 to 20 hours on my own build.

An uncut build video would be hard to watch.  With proper camera angles decent script and good editing, a short video showing the important stuff would be better.  If I did an uncut video, the run time could span years!  And who would want that?

Tickmagnet

I'd prefer to spend that 15 to 20 hours on my own build.

 

Exactly. There is only so much time in a day. And perhaps like golf, this hobby is far more interesting to be doing than the be watching.

Not me.

Guys (and girls?)! You're not getting it. Maybe I'm at fault for not wording the title properly. 

I'm not asking "Who would enjoy sitting and watching a 20-hour long video, Stanley Kubrick-style?"

I'm asking, "Who thinks we could do with a few of these-type videos on YouTube?"

Think about it: what's one of the purposes of these forums? To ask questions about detailed things. Why not have a video in which you could skip to the part where the professional modeler him/herself shows you practically & visually how they do it?

If you don't need it, it would only be another one of millions of videos on YouTube you don't need, but I know for me, when I was starting out, I would've loved something like this: to be able to skip and forward AT MY PACE, not at the pace of the video creator, purely for reference.

I completely expected people to dismiss the idea, but as a thought experiment, would NO ONE ELSE be interested in this? It would be like being in a workshop, only this workshop can be accessed at any time.

Thoughts.

GMorrison

I've never built a model in 15-20 hours. More like 150-200 so I wouldn't want to inflict that on anyone.

 

Bill

Wow!  Where does a person go to see your work?

Here, but only a couple a year. Check out "Grafting a Forrestal hull..." in ships.

Your idea has a lot of merit and it's been done in various ways, but it is a good suggestion.

I'd rather watch something like that as opposed to the endless vids where you spend 15 minutes watching some one you can't see take all of the parts of a kit out of a box.

Bill

Ohms,

If it's something you want to do, go for it and let the viewers decide.  Would I watch something that long? Depends on the subject and how entertaining the presentation is.  I don't know if YouTube will let you upload a video of that length without having to break it up.

Tickmagnet

I'd prefer to spend that 15 to 20 hours on my own build.

 

As soon as i open a build thread and see its a video, i click straight off. I would rather just see photo's and an explantion with detailed pics of any images.

Bish

 Tickmagnet

I'd prefer to spend that 15 to 20 hours on my own build.

 

As soon as i open a build thread and see its a video, i click straight off. I would rather just see photo's and an explantion with detailed pics of any images.

 

Even movies are only 2-3 hours long.  Cut that down to like 15 minutes and you might have something.

Gary

Tickmagnet

I'd prefer to spend that 15 to 20 hours on my own build.

Not sure whether it's advancing age (and the curmudgeonliness that goes along with it) or the hyper-saturation of video 'content' these days...but my patience and attention span for any but the best you-tube type videos these days is about a minute.

Hearing some guy fumble for words to improvise as he opens a box and counts sprues for the camera is most often just excruciating. Having worked in media advertising for some years...where the dictum is, "figure out your message and get it across as quickly and concisely as you can"...watching some well-meaning eight-ball with (apparently) all the time in the world sharing his modeling 'wisdom' is something akin to root-canal.

(End of old-guy rant. Can I have my pudding-cup now? )

ohms

Why not have a video in which you could skip to the part where the professional modeler him/herself shows you practically & visually how they do it?

To be a little more on-topic...the previously-mentioned idea of splitting up a long-process video into sequence steps -- clearly-labled and described -- would be the reasonable way to go. Even fast-forwarding through the vid...stopping, reversing, and hitting 'play' when something might be useful...is an exercise in frustration much of the time.

Editing (and some idea of real well-thought-out step-by-step presentation) can be a very good thing.

Depends on the background music.  I'm still looking for the YourTube requirement that your video must have annoying background music, because videos like this seem to have that.  Also, don't forget that the voice has to be in a digitized, strange accent that will put you to sleep in ten minutes.

Every video will need the cute dog, cat, or child in the background.  Its good drama seeing a tail, nose, ears, or a paw coming up over the edge of the workbench. 

Like I said-there are already such videos, showing the process from start to finish.  If you like them, great.  If you want to create one, great.  It's not a bad idea to create one or to watch one.  But if you're disappointed because you're not getting the responses you expected, I'm sorry, but that's the way the world is.

I understand what you're saying. Like Baron said, there are vids like that on YouTube already. I usually skip to the point that interests me, watch, decide whether I have advanced past that technique, which I usually have...just sayin, and go to something else. 10 min is what "they" found to be an acceptable video length on YouTube before you start to lose the audience.

I get you though, you want someone who actually knows what they are doing (instead of some 12 yr. old just making a video to upload so he can be on YouTube) showing each step. I have thought about it, but it would be in shorts and you would only see one thing once, like cutting a part from a tree etc. This is only useful until you get to the masking stage, after that, everyone does it differently. There are TONS of vids on what comes next and you need to find a YouTuber that fits your style.

I have a suggestion. Go look at Plasmo

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC53hZgZPlQmKWFRFSpxbSxw

he goes from opening a box to finish in a very short time, is extremely good and puts up what he's using in text at the bottom of the screen, and his music doesn't suck either. Very professional production IMO and not below my skill level, I learn something from him each time.

I've seen some Japanese modeling channels on YouTube, too, that are very good.  One is associated with a Japanese TV show about hobbies-PlaMo, I think it's called.  I watched one modeler build the Trumpeter 1/350 Lexington in his bedroom-his apartment must be like those Japanese hotels made up of single cubbies.  Built it and airbrushed it, at a 2'x2' desk, with no spray booth, and he didn't spill a drop, either.

As far as a preference goes, for video content or not, I suspect that age may be a factor, too.  If you're my age (b 1964), you might tend to prefer content in print-books, magazines, photocopies, etc.

I know that I can use either print or video, but I prefer a live interaction to either.  A hands-on demo is better for me, because I can ask questions and get a live answer in real time.

Also, I can't watch online content at my bench.  I still have a hard Internet connection, no wireless router, so I can't take my laptop to the bench and watch an online video while I work.  I'm probably in a minority today, but it is what it is.

So again, there's already a lot of online content presented builds, which is great.  If you want to make one, that's great, too, go for it.

modelcrazy

I have a suggestion. Go look at Plasmo

Lol! It's guys LIKE Plasmo that I wish I could see longer videos of. I love his work. I tried to do the exact model he did (Fujimi Ford GT40) with, needless to say, lesser results. That's why I wish I could see a far longer video, almost as if I could stand behind him and watch him work, which would be impossible in real life. I'm sure there are so many things he does that he takes for granted and edits out of his videos, which would be visual gold for a noob like myself.

Look at videos of Sideshow Collectibles. I see them airbrushing an entire bust in (what looks like) a single day. Maybe even a single sitting, and my head just spins wondering how they could work that fast. An uncut video would answer so many of my questions, or save me so much time trialing-and-erroring on my own.

@lewbud

I could make my own video, I suppose, but that would defeat the purpose. I still consider myself a beginner modeler, and so my video would only be of use to absolute noobs.

To the guys who said the video would be boring and too much commentary would be needed, you're missing the point. It's NOT SUPPOSED to be a video you sit an watch. It would serve as a reference video. The longest I've found so far are about 5 hours, and even they skip a lot of steps. I wish a few pros could do a completely uncut version. Or edit out ONLY, UNAMBIGUOUSLY the things that are 100% repetition, like the wheels.

Thanks to everyone so far for the replies. I'm still sticking to my belief that there's a market (if tiny) out there that would find it very useful.

"I'm still sticking to my belief that there's a market (if tiny) out there that would find it very useful."

I agree. There are times when I think I should just sit down and start one, but it wouldn't be one sitting, I would break it down in smaller chunks. This way someone who is looking for such a vid doesn't have to scan to find the technique they are looking for.

I do still plan to do a vid on my water....someday 

Forget about videos.  The best way to improve, at anything, is to practice.  Build kits. 

Is there a market/audience out there for such videos? Most likely, yes. There is a market out there for pretty much anything under the sun worldwide. Is it a large one for such videos? Most likely not.

Now going ahead with such a video would actually require several, because modeling in one genre will not cover aspects in another genre. Modeling indy link tracks on an armor build is of zero use to the auto, ship, or aircraft modeler. Conversely building a modern jet fighter is going to require different methods than building a WWI biplane. 

And as mentioned above, presentation is a huge thing. If the builder is a poor speaker and cannot narrate effectively, nobody  is going to sit thru one hour, let alone the full build.

No thanks. I get far more out of a magazine article with well photographed and explained steps.

    Ohms, I also understand your comments. I personally do not have the attention span nor time to watch a complete 25 hour movie on building. If you would like another example of how to do most things modelling related check out Andy's Hobby HeadQuarters, he has a very comprehensive video library on many many builds.

   I have found YouTube very helpful on some of my subjects, short build videos by a guy named Nigel was insrtumental in my completion of my " BUK". I also have found that sometimes not all subjects are posted as build reviews but don't be discouraged...some one will pop one before long.

    Given your isolated location, I understand your need for interaction with other modelers so I suggest that you create your own build WIP and post here, that may allow feedback from the members here. Be prepared for a wide range of reactions and comments and also remember some of us aren't saavy enough to "show" the technique we are trying to explain however as a group things get sorted out. Good luck buddy 

I have watched Japanese video series on YouTube on occasion, but I think they were partially time lapsed. They were builing those Fujimi castle kits, I found them fascinating but that was more due to the unique builds.