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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 7, 2004 9:29 AM
Poor detail, bad instructions and large heavy boxes! Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 7, 2004 12:23 PM
Lots are mentioning ejector pins. Are these the same as sprue attachment points? What are the big circles usually on the inside of fuselages and wings? I thought those were used for ejection from the molds.

Anyway I have two peeves. (1) Warped or twisted fuselages. There should be no reason for this with injection molding. It just indicates lower quality plastic is being used. (2) Sprue attachment points right smack in the top middle seam of fuselages Angry [:(!]
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Posted by F105-Thud on Saturday, August 7, 2004 2:02 PM
I agree with all the posts, especially ejector pin marks. What was the point of a clear model if you could see all the pin marks?
I also hate that you have to buy PE to make the kit better, especially in the seat belt area.
And most new kits now don`t have any rivet detail when there were flush rivets (why can`t they recess them all with the panel lines)
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:35 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by hou_ge2000

raised panel lines



Right on brother. I would like to have a small collection of planes on the shelf, but I check for this before I even look at a kit.

I also hate mould parting seams and misleading instructions, particularly where multiple versions are involved.
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  • From: Melbourne, Australia
Posted by darson on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:08 PM
1. Lack of a harness either molded on, or at worst supplied as a decal on aircraft seats.

2. Instructions calling for obscure mixing ratios of three paints to obtain a particular color (Revell AG).

3. Soft detail.

Later
Darren
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Posted by nkm1416@info.com.ph on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 11:00 PM
All of the above plus poor quality canopies ( thick, cloudy, scratched, wrong shape, wrong size, wrong frames)
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 13, 2004 12:39 AM
The thing I hate most on my models?


Those GD IPMS flashlight/magnifying glass combos at shows! Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 13, 2004 11:39 AM
I wish that some of the manufacturers out there would start making more Australian models..ship,aircraft and armour..

cheers mikeTongue [:P]
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Posted by jblittle254 on Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:17 PM
I-beam -- It sounds like you've got it all straight, and just don't realize it. The little circles (usually in a hidden area of the part) are from pins in the molds that eject the parts from the molds. The sprue attachment points are just that -- the points where the parts attach to the sprues.

Anyway, on topic -- my biggest pet peeve is poor fitting parts. There's no excuse, given the resources available today, to have two fuselage halves that don't line up properly.

-Jonathan
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  • From: Perth, Western Australia
Posted by madmike on Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:16 AM
Expensive could mean Hasegawa new releases?

print up a new set of decals, bung them into an old (still good though) kit and sell them for AU$35-50. The old kit only sold for AU$15 max when it was released. Does this justify the new decal sheet. I think not!

In regards to disintegrating decals, I have a policy of using Microscale decal Film over any sheet older than 2 years old. Better to be safe than sorry!

BUT the worst things are end opening boxes (Revell and Italeri take note!) and not bagging the plastic parts so that they fall off the sprue and the clear parts get scratched..AHHHH!!!!!!

cheers

Mike
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:37 AM
End opening boxes

and 3 words that will strike fear into ALL modeler's hearts (read: most)

RESIN

PHOTO-ETCH

and tools that don't work, stuff like sprue cutters that nibble away parts, pitot tubes(when will the military make their new planes easier to reproduce in plastic?)
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 30, 2004 11:50 AM
Ships - Broken gun barrels in odd scales

Aircraft - Needlessly complex multi-piece canopies (The Academy OV-10 Bronco and Testors OV-10 Bronco are the most egregious examples of this)

Aircraft - Raised panel lines on a Corsair, and recessed panel lines on a C-47
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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Thursday, September 30, 2004 12:20 PM
What do I hate on models? I'd have to say the price Big Smile [:D]
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  • From: Rowland Heights, California
Posted by Duke Maddog on Saturday, October 2, 2004 10:20 AM
What do I hate most?

Small detail parts with such huge sprue attachment points that no matter how hard you try, the part breaks apart before they seperate from the sprue!

Long thin pieces like the Revell/Germany M2A2 bradley's Bushmaster cannon attached to the sprue at both ends instead of at one end, so it snaps in half when you try to remove it from the sprue!

Unclear instruction sheets.

Directions that ask you to mix %'s of different colors to get another color.

Those last two were mentioned I believe. Still, the top two are my pet peeves, particularly when building Ships and Armor.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 2, 2004 10:20 AM
lack of detail. the whole point of our hobby is to produce detailed scale replicas that look great. when i get a model that has detail comparable to something that can be shot off with a rubber band and fly "0ver 50 feet" i get unhappy.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 3, 2004 11:49 AM
when the boxart depicts something that isnt in the box... a 1/700 ship showing FLAGS FLYING when there are no flags in the box, for example. So now I'm supposed to buy some just to make it look realistic? I mean, who has ever seen ANY ship with no flags!!!!Banged Head [banghead]
Also, when the painting instructions only give one manufacturer reference, or none at all. I mean, come on, they sell these kits worldwide, thats why we cant have any swastikas, right?
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 3, 2004 3:03 PM
Hmmmmm

Ejector Pin Marks...
Decals that fall apart while transferring them to the model...
Small Parts that fall apart....You know the ones that are so frail that you take extra care while painting them...as soon as you put glue on them and try to put them where they belong(taking the same special care!)they Censored [censored]break!
Seam lines in impossible places...but they can still be seen...

I'm sure there's a few more but this will do for now.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 3, 2004 3:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Duke Maddog



Directions that ask you to mix %'s of different colors to get another color.


Yeah I forgot about this one! Hello Tamiya....Are you listening?
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Posted by renarts on Sunday, October 3, 2004 5:01 PM
Anything with a Heller logo on it.....

Other than that, poorly molded on detail or small detail incorporated into the mold. I usually end up scraping it off and scrachbuilding the newer detail. I would much rather see things like engine screens left off or not part of the mold so that I could either use my own materials, PE or kit supplied PE.
Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 3, 2004 5:12 PM
no landing gear details

warps

clear parts [all of them]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 4, 2004 7:19 PM
The things that i hate the most are:

1. AMT and Revell-monogram kits.Angry [:(!]
2. Clear parts.Angry [:(!]
3. Clear parts that are not baged seperately.Angry [:(!]
4. Revell AG instructions that recommend mixing 3 different paints to get the required colour.Angry [:(!]

Thats my My 2 cents [2c]

Cheers Trev
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 12:24 AM
Inacurracies that are not only able to be spoted by rivet counters, but the average joe looking at the model.

Ejector pin marks in exposed areas

NUMBER ONE HATED ARMOR MODEL ATTRIBUTE! Angry [:(!]
Mold lines that wrap around the wheels on armor kits (takes forever to get em' off!)

Old revell kits where the decals are so thick you can see it if you hold the decal sheet flat.

NUMBER ONE HATED AIRCRAFT MODEL ATTRIBUTE! Angry [:(!]
Raised panels and rivets on A/C models
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 1:22 AM
Partridge FAMO make me upset...same with that NASTANK that was in a FSM a while back...Angry [:(!]Banged Head [banghead]SoapBox [soapbox]

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  • From: NSW, Australia
Posted by pingtang on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 9:54 AM
Overly thick parts- make the model look like a toy,
Ejector pin marks,
A manufacturer releasing one kit as a certain version, then changing the decals and calling it another. Like Hasegawas Hellcat, The F6F-5 is a kit of a F6F-3 but they tell you to remove a few bits and scribe panel lines to make it a -5. Lazy buggers.

And las, but not least......

The price tag.
-Daniel
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  • From: Green Lantern Corps HQ on Oa
Posted by LemonJello on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 10:16 AM
That Partridge FAMO was actually pretty funny. C'mon, get Happy!

I'll go with the "mixing %'s of paint to get the'right' color." That really does bother me. Unclear instructions for parts that affect later stages of building is another thing I hate.
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