Modelers Unite!

diggeraone

Member since
July 2003
From: Ozarks of Arkansas

Posted by diggeraone on Sunday, January 16, 2005 1:32 AM

Ya'll have to remember one thing about modeling when people tell you that it is kid's stuff and that is;Before there was a wheel someone cut a small slab from a branch and drlled a hole it to make it roll.Then he upsized it,his first creation was a model.All for the industry before they make a product,makes a model of it first.I only wish that I could get paid little some of those kids in Detirot.Or how about the enginer who design the world trade centers,in order for him to sell the ideal he had to be a kid and make a model of it.So when so of those who thinks that models are kid's stuff and he/she is hold a rifle ask what type of rifle it is.He/she will tell what brand name it is but the ask what kind is it most will say,Model 357 or so.Then you got them,that is right it is a copy of a model.Digger

Put all your trust in the Lord,do not put confidence in man.PSALM 118:8 We are in the buisness to do the impossible..G.S.Patton

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STUG61

Member since
January 2005
From: Meeeechigan!!!

Posted by STUG61 on Saturday, January 15, 2005 12:44 PM

Good point diggeraone. Just a thought for those who have someone who thinks our hobby is "kids stuff", try building them a model and you'd be surprised at thier reaction. I built my uncle U.S.S. Kittyhawk, the ship he served on, and you'd have thought I gave him the Medal of Honor! Now many of my relatives who have seen it ask me often about what I'm working on. My uncle even went out and got a kit of his antique Chevy truck he owns! My 2 cents [2c]

Smile! It makes people nervous!! Andy

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diggeraone

Member since
July 2003
From: Ozarks of Arkansas

Posted by diggeraone on Saturday, January 15, 2005 11:52 AM

I can understand were ya'll are coming from.I have in years past been put down by poeple for doing what was call a childs thing.That is untill they see the work and the detail that I put into it.Boy do they sing a different tune after that.All my friends that see my work are amazed at what can be done.So say that they wish that they could do that and I ask them why they can't.The answer to that is,if they can mill and make there own car parts,then they can build a model.If they can sit in front of the boob tube for hours,then they can build a model.So far a few of them have started building and have enjoyed what they are doing.Those of them that talk football and hunting always seem to end the coversation with modeling.This will go on for hours into what to build and how to make parts.I can build and machine parts for car or machines also for models.So when some make fun of you,just remember that you to are a machinist and have a skill that they wish they have.Digger

Put all your trust in the Lord,do not put confidence in man.PSALM 118:8 We are in the buisness to do the impossible..G.S.Patton

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STUG61

Member since
January 2005
From: Meeeechigan!!!

Posted by STUG61 on Saturday, January 15, 2005 11:18 AM

This is some interesting stuff.I love to hunt, fish(yes even on a frozen lake)and there are people I know who think I'm nuts to do that.I was brought up with two brothers who think I'm crazy to sit all day waiting for a deer to walk by.We all have varried interests and I don't understand all of thiers( one brother bets on horse racing on line-whats that about?)but we're all glad our hobbies are healthy and legal! Besides since they're not into models they think my work is great!!!! Wink [;)]

Smile! It makes people nervous!! Andy

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scottrc

Member since
December 2003
From: 37deg 40.13' N 95deg 29.10'W

Posted by scottrc on Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:53 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by dkmacin

Al,
IHatewall, CAREFUL there! Not all of your customers will be supermodels looking for that "all over" tan for the cover shoot of Sport Illustrated!!
Don

That thought / metal picture kinda discouraged me from the idea as well Yuck [yuck]

Scott

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upnorth

Member since
December 2002
From: Canada / Czech Republic

Posted by upnorth on Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:34 AM

Additional thought:

When you consider how many modelers are so addept at carrying out some very involved conversions to create a different variant of the subject and you consider how many women go to plastic surgeons and burn their credit cards out on "enhancements" and "improvements", you'd think that modelers, considering what we can do with plastic, would be the very height of masculinity.

Ohhhh, the irony.

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upnorth

Member since
December 2002
From: Canada / Czech Republic

Posted by upnorth on Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:26 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tigerman

QUOTE: Originally posted by midnightprowler

I also am amongst the guys who could care less for hunting and fishing, etc. I never have felt I had much in common with most men. Now that I have my forums, I fit right in! Thanks guys!
Lee

Amen brother. I guess after all these years, home is the prefered place to be. I've never been a real outdoorsie kind of guy. I'd rather be in the forums than say the local bar with no life.

Indeed!

In my family folks seem to get the art gene or the sports gene, guess who didn't get the sports gene? So what if I didn't? Angry [:(!]

My primary hobbies are the models, stamp and coin collecting and painting. Guess what draws the criticism? Yeah, the models.

Coins and stamps are an "investment" and a painting you can hang on a wall, but what of the models? Theres no difference between a painting on a wall and a model on a shelf.

I never got into guns and hunting (couldn't hit a target to save my life) I went fishing once, caught a trout and lost my appetite gutting it. As for sports, swimming and jogging seem to be about all I can do without hurting myself.

I've got a couple of friends I can talk to about coin and stamp collecting and they're both female, I tried a couple of coin and stamp collecting forums on the net but didn't care for the sort of folks I found on them.

What defines the "Real Man"? Real men define themselves!

Model on, folks!

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dkmacin

Member since
January 2003
From: Upper left side of the lower Penninsula of Mich

Posted by dkmacin on Saturday, January 15, 2005 6:46 AM

Al,
I have been modeling for , well, a long time, and have been in this family for almost 25 years and they still insist they have no idea what to get me for birthdays and holidays!
Apparently it is okay to have a gizillion lures, fishing poles, rifles , pistols, and ammunition but not okay to have more than one model kit.
Hatewall, CAREFUL there! Not all of your customers will be supermodels looking for that "all over" tan for the cover shoot of Sport Illustrated!!
And it's not orange dye, it's tinted sugar water. . .*insert comment here*.

Don

I know it's only rock and roll, but I like it.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 15, 2005 1:17 AM

Well, I talk about my hobby/"problem" and I guess I'm just thick skinned. If people think it's silly or childish, that's on them. And guess what? One friend at work gave me an old Monogram Corsair he'd never built. He probably regretted it because he's back into the hobby again after 20+ year hiatus. Then another guy "came out" and admitted he was making an enormous Waterloo diorama (with incerdible little tiny meticulously painted miniatures, don't know the scale, 1/87th maybe). He brought in a set of his figures to work to show me, and I brought in my then pride and joy, a 1/48 p-51D, Big Beautiful Doll.
Then this year, for Christmas the folks I supervise got me a ProModeller P-38 and a Minicraft 777.

As for the family, they're just glad I have a hobby, so now THEY always know what to get me for a present.

Al

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djrost_2000

Member since
February 2003
From: Where the coyote howl, NH

Posted by djrost_2000 on Friday, January 14, 2005 10:39 PM

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 14, 2005 9:45 PM

Hmm....

I might ebay all my model stuff and start spraying naked females with orange dye.

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buff

Member since
December 2003
From: Montreal

Posted by buff on Friday, January 14, 2005 8:31 PM

My parents are a little bemused. They remember me building kits as a kid, and they probably feel that at 38, I should be passed it by now. My elder niece is actually the best about it. She suggested to my sister that they get me a kit for my last birthday, and they got me a really nice one. Pretty cool for an 11 year old girl. My wife tolerates it. As long as I'm disappearing down into my workshop when we have people over, she's fine. We don't really talk about it. Nobody else in the family really gets it. As far as manliness goes, well, I can point to a 25 year rugby career.

On the bench: 1/32 Spit IXc

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tigerman

Member since
March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Friday, January 14, 2005 7:44 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by midnightprowler

I also am amongst the guys who could care less for hunting and fishing, etc. I never have felt I had much in common with most men. Now that I have my forums, I fit right in! Thanks guys!
Lee

Amen brother. I guess after all these years, home is the prefered place to be. I've never been a real outdoorsie kind of guy. I'd rather be in the forums than say the local bar with no life.

Eric

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lizardqing

Member since
July 2003
From: Dahlonega, Georgia

Posted by lizardqing on Friday, January 14, 2005 7:07 PM

Guess I am lucky. Most guys I know are amazed at what can be done with a model kit and ask lots of questions on how I did this and that. They also want to know about my other hobby of firefighting too so I don't have to feel left out.

Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop

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dkmacin

Member since
January 2003
From: Upper left side of the lower Penninsula of Mich

Posted by dkmacin on Friday, January 14, 2005 6:00 PM

Beating the daylights out of your brother in laws might not be the way to family harmony zokis, but I'll keep it in mind.
I too have many interests other than models but these are my hobbies, and my passion is to get the latest project "right."
As for plastic art. . .our local club was told in no uncertain terms that what we did wasn't "art", by the local artists who had a display at the library. So we didn't enter any in their "showing." And yes, it showed bad taste to walk amoungst the works and make gagging noises and giggle, but we did it anyway. (talk about bad taste!)

Don

I know it's only rock and roll, but I like it.

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scottrc

Member since
December 2003
From: 37deg 40.13' N 95deg 29.10'W

Posted by scottrc on Friday, January 14, 2005 8:36 AM

Spray on tans huh? I remember my wife telling me that I should get a hobby that I can make money at, since her friends husband sells bow hunting equipment, and another sells his artwork.. When I showed her how I could use my airbrush investment by bodypainting tans, she never brought the subject up again. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 14, 2005 7:22 AM

Modeling for most of us here has gone way past the "kids toys" stereotype, when i get accused of playing with kids toys i simply remark that this isn't playing with toys it's art in plastic, when you consider all of the tools and techniques we use in our hobby plus the amount of patience required getting it right you come to the realisation that we modelers are a very creative bunch of people Thumbs Up [tup]

Modeling is art in plasticthats my opinion which i know is shared by many people who visit this forum Thumbs Up [tup]

Cheers jules.......

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zokissima

Member since
July 2003
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Posted by zokissima on Friday, January 14, 2005 7:16 AM

I do have quite a few hobbies myself, and amongst them are a couple I guess would be considered as typical "guy stuff", such as working out and martial arts (I've been doing that since I was about two feet tall), but modelling is a passion. So, if any of those "real men" would care to step up, instead of slyly and sheepishly 'voicing' their opinions through frowns and looks, I'd be more than happy to demonstrate my 'manliness'.
Plus, if these so-called-guys are so intersted in guy stuff, i'm not sure of anything more guyish than models of military hardware and sleek cars and bikes...

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 14, 2005 7:00 AM

Woodworking, camping, fishing, karate, RC aircraft, working on old cars and last but not least, modeling.... I do 'em all. No problems with family gatherings. There's little in the way of discussion on any of the afore-mentioned topics. I'm just lucky, I guess!

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berny13

Member since
February 2003
From: Panama City, Florida, Hurricane Alley

Posted by berny13 on Thursday, January 13, 2005 6:57 PM

I resemble that remark. Shock [:O]

I enjoy hunting, fishing, camping, flying, as well as model building. When I am at the Aero Club, I talk flying. When out with hunters we talk hunting. When camping, I don't get much of a chance to talk as the wife is usually with me. Smile [:)]

Most of my friends are not into building models so we talk about other things. I was a member of a model club in town, but it was dominated by armor and figure modelers. As I like aircraft ,I didn't fit in.

The only time I get to talk about building is when someone comes over and I am busy working on one. There is also this forum.

Berny

Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale.

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale. F-4 Phantom Group Build.

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overkillphil

Member since
October 2004
From: Northern Indiana

Posted by overkillphil on Thursday, January 13, 2005 5:42 PM

Part of the joy of my semi-dysfunctional family is that we don't spend a lot of time on extended conversation if we don't have much in common.

my favorite headache/current project: 1/48 Panda F-35

"I love the fact that dumb people don't know who they are. I hope I'm not one of them" -Scott Adams

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dkmacin

Member since
January 2003
From: Upper left side of the lower Penninsula of Mich

Posted by dkmacin on Monday, January 10, 2005 8:26 PM

Good Ideas All,
I am in a local model club, but the once a month meetings are not enough to get me my plastic "fix." That's why I am here ranting away! The problem is my inherited family i.e. in laws, not the guys who model.
There is an EXCELLENT model shop here, and he gives very generous discounts to club members and special orders, (Which take about a week). He also advertises in FSM wink wink.
IPMS is in Michigan, but I am located about 31/2 hours from one and 51/2 from another. There is absolutely no interest in starting an IPMS chapter here, I tried, the reason are too many to go into.

Don

I know it's only rock and roll, but I like it.

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ajlafleche

Member since
December 2002
From: Massachusetts

Posted by ajlafleche on Monday, January 10, 2005 9:55 AM

Sounds like you guys need to find/set up a model club in your area.
Is there a local hobby shop nearby? If so, ask if there's a club around. If not, consider putiing up a poster to elicit interest. The shop might even be willing to offer some space to meet. (Hey, what shop keeper wouldn't want more customers spending time in his store?) Alternately, you could arrange it to meet at a different home each time, as one long standing club does out this way. Don't forget to go to http://www.ipmsusa.org and check their local listings. (I just found four listings for Michigan.)

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

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midnightprowler

Member since
February 2003
From: East Bethel, MN

Posted by midnightprowler on Sunday, January 9, 2005 7:00 AM

I also am amongst the guys who could care less for hunting and fishing, etc. I never have felt I had much in common with most men. Now that I have my forums, I fit right in! Thanks guys!
Lee

Hi, I am Lee, I am a plastiholic.

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FreedomEagle1953

Member since
December 2012

Posted by FreedomEagle1953 on Sunday, January 9, 2005 2:05 AM

let 'em freeze ... Evil [}:)]

FreedomEagle1953

Chicago, IL area

"keep on building 'em ... but don't glue your fingers together"

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dkmacin

Member since
January 2003
From: Upper left side of the lower Penninsula of Mich

Posted by dkmacin on Saturday, January 8, 2005 6:07 PM

Last meeting, I mean family dinner, we all went on about getting up early.
Some to go fishing, I, on the other hand, got up early to work on models. Those individual track links for the Panzer I are a bear. As I was fumbling with another run I was thinking of the brother in laws freezing on the lake.
To each his own.

Don

I know it's only rock and roll, but I like it.

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fightnjoe

Member since
September 2011

Posted by fightnjoe on Sunday, January 2, 2005 6:36 PM

i look at it this way. all who know me know that when they talk to me sooner or later i will talk of modeling. i love it when they excuse themselves quick. makes my day.

joe

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Sunday, January 2, 2005 6:30 PM

Modelers aren't real men huh? Laugh [(-D]

Opinions vary. Wink [;)]

Mike

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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Woody

Member since
December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Sunday, January 2, 2005 6:01 PM

I enjoy both shooting sports and woodworking but I never really thought of them as "real men" past times. I know how you feel though. I hate Thanksgiving because the TV is taken over by the football crowd like it's their right even if it's not their home. Hang in there, "real men" do their own thing and could careless what narrow minded folk think. Wink [;)]