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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:08 AM
[b][darrenbb/b] Apparently you haven't seen the R-M F-15E Strike Eagle. That is an excellent kit and in fact why Black Box made a detail set for the cockpit is beyond me, the kit doesn't need it!! It's that good. Monogram for what it is has had a very good range of kits in 1/72nd and 48th. Old and new, their bomber series though getting long on the tooth are very good and have not except for the B-25 have been matched. You see some clamoring for a Tamiya B-17, why though it may be nice and yes I would probably get it but the Monogram B-17 is an excellent kit on it's own. And at 15-20 dollars a bargain. The Tam kit I'm sure will be at least 80.00 if not more. If you don't like Monogram thats fine but there not crap they are challenging and thats what this hobby is all about.

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Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:00 AM
Hmmmm...didn't realize this was another Monogram-bashing topic.
Those who look down on that great company obviously haven't seen the above-mentioned He-111 or the magnificent Catalina kits in 1/48. Absolutely world class.

The only kit I've built in recent memory that was "crap" was an ancient 1/48 Otaki Mitsubishi Raiden (Jack). The windscreens where hazily translucent, fit everywhere was atrocious, and let's not even get into the heavy, heavy, HEAVY rivet detail. But ya know what? That stinker in the box turned out to be one of my favorite aircraft models on the shelf. I'm no modeling magician, but I just put everything I knew about modeling to full use, and came out with something that was personally very pleasing.
But there certainly were some harsh words aimed Otaki's way during that build!

~Brian
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Posted by dogsbody on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:40 PM
I remember building the Monogram 1/72 Do-17Z in junior highschool. It wasn't my first kit but it seemed so much better the the Airfix and FROG models I had built up till then. Aurora kits, now those were bad and hey, remember those old Lindberg 1/72 kits........

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:08 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by darrenbb

Go ahead and whine all you want! It still doesn't change the fact that Monogram = crap.

Darren


Darren,
That's just your opinion and you know what they say about that:
"Opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one, just some of them stink"..Dead [xx(]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:24 PM
Monogram's He 111 is pretty nice, just needs a crew.
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Posted by berny13 on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:13 PM
Darren

What do you base that on? You stated in another post that you never buy a RM kit. If you haven't tried their latest releases how can you call them crap. Go out and buy the Monogram 1/48 scale F-86D kit and look at it. It is on par with Hasagawa and Tamiya. RM releases kits of a subject aircraft that no other manufacturer has. It is years later when another company will release a kit of that subject. Look at the F-8E that Monogram released in the late 80's. It wasn't untill this year that Hasagawa released the F-8E. I have built two of the Monogram F-8E kits and IMO they were very good kits. It was a little changeling, but that is why I buy model kits. I also have the Hasagawa F-8E and it is very good. But for the price, you still can't beat Revell/Monogram.

Berny

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TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 6:51 PM
Go ahead and whine all you want! It still doesn't change the fact that Monogram = crap.

Darren
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 6:03 PM
My first airplane kit in over 20 years was a Hobby Craft Me-109 kit and it was the worst kit I have EVER built..
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:42 PM
I have an F-101 just waitin for me...:)

can't be crap if it's a century though :)
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:17 PM
I've built ton's of crappy kit's over the year's and each one has been a learning experience. I think the worst "crappy" kit that I've built is the Airfix 1/24th Mustang. I could go and rant about what was wrong with this kit but I wont it was just an overall bad experience for me and I'll never build another Airfix kit again. People have gotton way to spoiled with Tamiya and Hasegawa kit's and it seem's that everyone is now comparing other kit's to them and that's wrong. I like challenges and the older kit's do just that for me.

Steve
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Posted by Keyworth on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:22 PM
I've built I've-forgotten-how-many Monogram kits, have at least 15 unstarted kits, and, additionally, my son's first kit was a Monogram Snap-Tite. They may be older by design, but they were state of the art when I began building. Most of all, they were fun!!! The day that I can't have a little fun, I'll drop the hobby like a hot rock and find something else to do. As long as there's a Monogram kit out there unbuilt, that day is a long time coming. - Ed
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Posted by Lufbery on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:04 PM
Now Starfix really does make crap. :(

I've built a number of Monogram kits and enjoyed every one. I'm working on a 1/72 scale F-4J right now and it's going smoothly except for a fair number of ejector pin marks in awkward places.

I just read a review of the reissued Monogram F6F and I'm dying to get my hands on one. The folding wings really look cool! The kit also presents an opportunity to go nuts with detailing if I want to start learning how to incorporate resin after market parts.

Regards,

-Drew

-Drew

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Posted by tjgallagher on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 1:30 PM
T.R.Bridges

After 20+ years out of the model building game I stopped on my way home from work and purchased an 1/48 A-10 by Monogram. This is my 8 year old step sons favorite plane. Little did I know that the we could have that much fun and recieve compliments from friends and neighbors, but I guess it doesn't count because it is a "crap" model.

Oh well, us in the "Unwashed Masses" are usually having more fun anyway.

And to Thunderbolt,
remember "A poor mechanic blames his tools"

Terry.
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Posted by Ray Marotta on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:24 PM
The absolute worst kit I've ever attempted to build was Tamiya's 1/32 F-14.
That was in 1982 so it may have been improved since then. I ended up
smashing it against a wall before tossing it in the trash. I guess it was so bad
because I expected so much more from it. Give me my Monogram "crap" any
day of the week.
Ray

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Posted by djmodels1999 on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:03 AM
Yeah, long live the crappy kits! Who really needs Tamiya????!
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Posted by U-96 on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:47 AM
Yet another addition to the Future FAQ? Wink [;)]
On the bench: 1/35 Dragon Sturmpanzer Late Recent: Academy 1/48 Bf-109D (Nov 06) Academy 1/72 A-37 (Oct 06) Revell 1/72 Merkava III (Aug 06) Italeri 1/35 T-26 (Aug 06)
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Who Has Not Built a "crap" kit?
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:48 AM
Call me touchy, or crabby, but thunderBolt2's Monogram post really got under my skin. How many of you have never built a Monogram kit? Go on, raise your hand, I'll wait.............That's kinda what I thought.

My first Monogram Kit was a 1-48 F-4J MiG Killer. I used a whole tube of glue and painted it black. And I loved evry minute of it. It looked absolutely ridiculous, now that I think about it, but I enjoyed building my "crap" kit.

What I'm getting at here is this. It's a hobby folks. When we sit down to our work benches or tables, we're not performing brain surgery or putting men on the moon. Even if you get paid to build models, you are still supposed to enjoy what you are doing. Maybe Mr. Thunderbolt2 should think about that next time sits down to his project.

When I get home tonight, I am going to continue working on my many crap kits. Raised panel lines, lack of detail, give me more of it. I literally have shelves full of T-bolts's crap. And I will continue to build crap. I guess in this case you can actually polish a turd.
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