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Posted by jinithith2 on Monday, January 8, 2007 7:22 PM

LIKE MEEE!!!!Big Smile [:D]

hmm well found a new hobby shop about 10 mins from here... have yet to go there, cos of my mom's eye case

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Posted by SoD Stitch on Tuesday, January 9, 2007 5:25 PM

 Shellback wrote:
I'm not positive , but there does seem to be a good ratio of young modelers on these forums , so maybe this hobby does have more of a future than we realize .

Good news: My six-year old son has already built his first model with my help (a 1/72nd Hasegawa F-51), and he keeps bugging me to go the LHS so he can get another model to build; he wants to build either a 747, like his Grandpa flies, or an A-10. So there's at least one up-and-coming model maker for the future!

1/48th Monogram A-37 Dragonfly: 95% (so close!); 1/35th Academy UH-60L: 90%; 1/35th Dragon "Ersatz" M10: 75%; 1/35th DML E-100 Super Heavy Tank: 100%; 1/48 YF-12A, 95%; 1/48 U-2R: 90%; 1/48 B-58 Hustler: 50%; 1/32 F-117, 50%; 1/48 Rafale M: 50%; 1/48 F-105D: 75%; 1/48 SOS A-1H Skyraider: 50%; 1/48th Hobby Boss Su-27: 50%; 1/16th Revell Lamborghini Countach: 75%; 1/12th Otaki Lamborghini Countach: 25%; Tamiya 1/35th M3 Bradley Cavalry Fighting Vehicle: 25%

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Posted by jinithith2 on Tuesday, January 9, 2007 5:34 PM

ok well oddjob007, Doom Grr, and I sit at lunch talking about models models models and we feel like such nerds cos no one else in our school builds models...

 

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Posted by mikepowers on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:41 AM

I like your perspective McFingers. Its a healthy and positive spin on the current situation. And accurate.

One way of getting others involved is to set up a display at your local library in one of there display cases. A few models, some tools, paint and a phone number for information.

I have started a little group this way and who knows how far it will go.

Mike

 

 

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Posted by Air Master Modeler on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:39 AM

One thing I notice that has not been address here is the fact that with the closing down of LHS's and the decline of department stores carrying models and supplies the number of online hobby shops has actually increased and so has the majority inventory of models and supplies. It seems to me that online retailers have pick up the slack. While I dont agree with outragous shipping costs associated with these online hobby stores there is more access to getting supplies that some LHS's did not or would not carry. This is actually a BOON to us modelers that we have access to online hobby retailers and their access to products we couldnt get at LHS's. I still like the LHS's but when you have to have it and your LHS cant get it, buying it online works just as good.

Air Master

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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Posted by PaPa-John on Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:21 PM

 berny13 wrote:
I have been thinking about the same thing for many years. Even Michaels here has stopped carrying model kits. I went there yesterday and they have only a few car kits. I asked what happened to their big selection and was told they would no longer carry model kits. It is lucky we have a Hobby Lobby in town or there would be no place where I would be able to get modeling supplies except for mail order or to travel 100+ miles to another hobby shop.

There is a Michaels in my home town of Regina, Sk.  This store has a half decent selection of models.  Also every two week their flyers have two coupons for 40% off any item in the store, as long as it not already on sale.  One coupon per person per day.  I am new to modeling and the other day snagged a 69 Dodge Super Bee 2n1 with the coupon I had.  Brought the price down to a decent Canadian $ cost.

John

John

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Posted by Kolschey on Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:31 PM
 PaPa-John wrote:

 berny13 wrote:
I have been thinking about the same thing for many years. Even Michaels here has stopped carrying model kits. I went there yesterday and they have only a few car kits. I asked what happened to their big selection and was told they would no longer carry model kits. It is lucky we have a Hobby Lobby in town or there would be no place where I would be able to get modeling supplies except for mail order or to travel 100+ miles to another hobby shop.

There is a Michaels in my home town of Regina, Sk.  This store has a half decent selection of models.  Also every two week their flyers have two coupons for 40% off any item in the store, as long as it not already on sale.  One coupon per person per day.  I am new to modeling and the other day snagged a 69 Dodge Super Bee 2n1 with the coupon I had.  Brought the price down to a decent Canadian $ cost.

John

Not bad that. I often make use of AC Moore coupons.

 I do wish, in American dollars, that Michaels and AC Moore didn't have such markup on thier models.

Kits that I've seen at other retailers at  under $10, I see at AC Moore/Michaels at $12-14.

 

Just my 2 cents. 

Krzysztof Mathews http://www.firstgearterritories.com

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Posted by PaPa-John on Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:39 PM
 Kolschey wrote:
 PaPa-John wrote:

 berny13 wrote:
I have been thinking about the same thing for many years. Even Michaels here has stopped carrying model kits. I went there yesterday and they have only a few car kits. I asked what happened to their big selection and was told they would no longer carry model kits. It is lucky we have a Hobby Lobby in town or there would be no place where I would be able to get modeling supplies except for mail order or to travel 100+ miles to another hobby shop.

There is a Michaels in my home town of Regina, Sk.  This store has a half decent selection of models.  Also every two week their flyers have two coupons for 40% off any item in the store, as long as it not already on sale.  One coupon per person per day.  I am new to modeling and the other day snagged a 69 Dodge Super Bee 2n1 with the coupon I had.  Brought the price down to a decent Canadian $ cost.

John

Not bad that. I often make use of AC Moore coupons.

 I do wish, in American dollars, that Michaels and AC Moore didn't have such markup on thier models.

Kits that I've seen at other retailers at  under $10, I see at AC Moore/Michaels at $12-14.

 

Just my 2 cents. 

Same problem up here with the markup.  With the coupons, the cost in Canadian $ is approx. $13.00 including taxes.

 John

John

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Posted by mikepowers on Sunday, January 28, 2007 4:53 PM

I heard that Michaels was going to discontinue carrying models. Toys are Us stopped years ago along with Kay B and others.

When I got back into the hobby a little over a year ago, I was shocked because I couldn't find anyone carrying models anymore.

I really had to do some searching and was dissapointed to find out the only real choices I had for my area was online.

 

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Posted by flynavy1958 on Friday, February 23, 2007 6:21 AM

Here inside the DC Beltway, the last dedicated hobby shop closed about 4-5 years ago.  Now there are others a reasonable drive away--like Grandad's *just outside* the Beltway--but I, like many others here are sans car, and take subways/buses to work... Most of the still open LHSs are not transit accessible (unless I missed one?) and I do all my shopping online now. 

Clearly this is not a as dire a situation as some are in, just the situation here in the nation's capital.

FlyNavy1958 

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Posted by alumni72 on Friday, February 23, 2007 10:05 AM

waikong -

Sorry - I forgot to give you an update on Maplewood Hobby.  I've been there twice already.  The kit selection overall is pretty good - while the shop itself isn't really big, they do have a pretty good supply of kits of all types.  Cars are the most numerous overall and have their own side of an aisle.  The other side is armor, then aircraft.  Ships are inside the door to the right.  The owner mentioned that he needs to restock after the Christmas rush, but I don't know if that was true or if he was just trying to talk me into coming back again.  The paint selection is very good - they have Testors MM, MM2 and Acrylic, as well as Polly-S and Humbrol, and other Testors (for cars, I guess) and maybe one or two other brands I didn't recognize and can't remember.

They don't display their own builds, although a small workbench in the back by the armor section has either builds or repairs going on.  They have a sizeable figures section and a large table where, last time I visited, they were coming to grips with a couple of new games involving micro-sized ships and small figurines.  They have at least 3 racks of books (the Osprey rack is the best stocked) and the aisle side across from the paints is stocked with supplies for all sorts of kits, not just plastic.  They seemed to be low on several supply items but said they were getting a shipment in soon.

As far as their kit selection is concerned, I was actually trying to avoid getting any kits at the time, seeing as my stash is so big and has waited (patiently) so long to be built.  As I mentioned they have a lit of car kits, and the armor section seemed well-stocked - but I'm not looking to do any armor yet, so I didn't focus on it.  I'm planning on starting with aircraft, and their selection didn't seem to be all that broad.  They had a number of 1/48 kits from Classic Airframes and Hasegawa and Tamiya, but I'm a non-jet builder and they had a lot of jets, but besides that they had a lot of the same aircraft, albeit in different scales and from different companies.  So from that point of view, the variety was not that broad.  If you want an Fw-190 or am Me-109, or maybe an F4U - they will have it.  For my part, I'll go back every so often if I need paint (it's 10 minutes from work and very easy to get to off of Route 78), and to see what kits they've added.  But I'll keep my eyes open online and at other shops as well.

I guess I have a taste for non-standard aircraft, but I'm already tired of seeing all the endless variations on the same aircraft - Fw190, F4U, Me109 - and that seems to be what you see on LHS shelves more often than not.  Can't blame them for making available what is popular, or possibly stocking what is available to them from the supplier - and it's impossible unless you're a warehouse to stock enough to make everyone happy.  But seeing as it's the closest LHS I'll keep going back now and then for supplies and maybe the occasional kit - even if their prices may not be the best (and I don't know since it's the only one around so I can't compare with anyone else yet) it'd be a shame to see one more LHS bite the dust.

Next up, I'll see if I can find my way to Hi-Way Hobby in Ramsey.  Sounds like an excellent shop!

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Posted by waikong on Friday, February 23, 2007 10:44 AM
Thanks for the review! Sounds good enough to visit next time I'm past that way, 78 is such a great highway - much less cars than other highways near by. I'm in the same boat with a LHS 1/2 block from where I work, I stop by to pick up paints, glues, plastic rods, a magazine or two, and a occassional kit, but in general their kit prices are just too high compared to the Internet.
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Posted by DesertRat on Saturday, February 24, 2007 12:48 AM
Yep! Especially now that i am trying to build up a bit of a stash, i'm still in amazement that finding kits aren't as easy as it used to. I remember actually going into Toys R Us too to buy my very first kit at age 7 (a small snaptite kit of an F15) and i vividly remember a whole aisle that was solely models. Same with some of the other big chains- Kaybee, Playco, and a few others that escape me for the moment. But now, outside of the internet and hobby shops, i can't seem to find em! Could it be that generally speaking, the craft is dying out with really young generation? I sure hope not.......

Warmest regards,

Roger

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Posted by Shellback on Sunday, February 25, 2007 2:19 PM
I dont know if this has been said before but i remember as in the 60's all the department stores carried models in their toy departments . There wasnt that many model manufactureres back then so it was  just a couple of shelves . I'm refering to Sears , Penny's , Mont Gomery Wards , May Co. ,etc . Well a few of them are not in business any more . I used to go to Sears and pick up 1/32 Hasegawa kits and thought nothing of it .For a while back in the 70's Kmart was carrying Tamiya kits . Walmart up here has 6 to 8 kits on a shelf and they are usually Revells rebox of Monogram kits . As a kid we had plenty of Ma n Pa hobby shops around in So. Cal., man did i love them places . A lot of the the excitement of the hobby for me as a kid in the 50's was going to the hobby shop with my dad ( he was a model railroader ) and drooling over the selection of kits . Shelves stacked with models !!! It was paradise !!!
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Posted by mikepowers on Sunday, February 25, 2007 6:29 PM

I think Walmart needs to be kicked in the butt because they are such a huge chain they can afford to put out a better selection than what they do.

And shame on Toys R Us for the same reason.

I miss walking into that place a seeing 2 whole rows of models and a great selection of model rocketry too.

Times are changin.

Mike

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