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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 7:59 PM

One question for anyone in the know about Chinooks...This is advertised as an A model but it says there are decals for a 1991 Desert Storm aircraft. I worked for Boeing Helicopters at the time and I know that all operational As were converted to Ds by 1991. There were no A models in Desert Storm. As are best identified by the smaller engine cones, no "notch" in front of the aft pylon and the aft pylon is tapered to a point in the back on an A whereas it's flat on a D.

So the question is are they giving decals for an A model in 1991 (which didn't exist) or ar they providing parts to upgrade to a D model?

It may seem like a small thing to most people but it you've been around Chinooks you want to build you model of one just right.

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    November 2005
  • From: Newnan, GA
Posted by J.H. Primm on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 8:38 PM

 armydogdoc wrote:
.  What kind of hooks is the army using now days.  I guess what I am asking is there a huge difference between the A's that my Dad worked on when he was in the army (and the one that is being produced) and the ones that I rode on missions last year. 

 

I worked on and crewed them for sixteen years. In a nutshell, the visual differences between the As and Ds are not that great and most people wouldn't pick up on them. On the A models the trailing end of the aft pylon was tapered, on Bs, Cs, and Ds the trailing edge of the aft pylon is "squared" off. The As did not have the stabilizing strakes on the lower edges of the fuselage and ramp as was common on later aircraft. The engines were smaller as were the engine screens (when they were installed.) The D model is equipped with one large hook  near the center of the floor with two smaller ones for and aft.

Very early A models had dual rear wheels, later versions went to larger tires with one on each aft landing gear rather than two each. Lastly the 'clamshell' doors on the forward edge of the aft pylon on the Ds have cut outs to allow for cooling air for the combining transmission oil cooler (but it also means that the rear third of the cabin can get mighty cold when flying around in the winter.)

Engines, transmissions, drive train and dynamic components like rotor heads and rotor blades have undergone numerous changes over the life of the aircraft. For example the external load capacity has more than doubled from the A to the D, as has maintainability and reliability.

 

Jonathan Primm

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    December 2002
  • From: Valrico, FL
Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 10:28 PM

So the question is are they giving decals for an A model in 1991 (which didn't exist) or ar they providing parts to upgrade to a D model?

 

That is the million dollar question.  There has been speculation and rumors of both versions.  Test shots of the sprues and build ups show parts for both types as well.  The question is if the kit will build up either way, or will there be two separate kits.  The ad in FSM is confusing.  Like you said, it states an A model, but the decal options all sound like they go with a D model.  We shall see.

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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 10, 2005 12:49 AM
 HeavyArty wrote:

So the question is are they giving decals for an A model in 1991 (which didn't exist) or ar they providing parts to upgrade to a D model?

 

That is the million dollar question.  There has been speculation and rumors of both versions.  Test shots of the sprues and build ups show parts for both types as well.  The question is if the kit will build up either way, or will there be two separate kits.  The ad in FSM is confusing.  Like you said, it states an A model, but the decal options all sound like they go with a D model.  We shall see.

Soon we all should know the answers to all these on going questions.   I sure am racking my brain thinking about this!!!      And that said, the speculations and questions continue with this awsome kit!!! Or should I say kits???

Hang in there guys!!

MarkSmile [:)]

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