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Flamethrower Up! **FINISHED**for real! pg8

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Flamethrower Up! **FINISHED**for real! pg8
Posted by Stern0 on Sunday, September 6, 2009 12:16 PM

Hey Fellas!

Didn't want to bore you guys with another WIP thread, but here it is! Started working on Dragons 2nd mardiv, Tarawa a few weeks ago, (I have a deep love for the 2nd div, oooh rah!)  and as usual get sidetracked with the base...of course it is sheetrock mud with some "logs" and some wooden dowels.....I'm scratching some palms and some other items, will keep the updates comming. All comments and critiques welcome!

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Posted by camo junkie on Sunday, September 6, 2009 12:20 PM
woohoo, me first buddy. looking good stern0. is that your mud you "used" on a.c.d.i.h.?? Laugh [(-D]
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Posted by Stern0 on Sunday, September 6, 2009 12:25 PM
WOW...just post this like 2 secs ago....thanks for being so quick....yes!! plenty of mud!!! more to come!
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Posted by camo junkie on Sunday, September 6, 2009 12:31 PM
look 4-ward to it!
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Posted by Stern0 on Sunday, September 6, 2009 12:41 PM

here is a pic of one of the Marines wip. (looks like a zombie to me, some say thats all we are anyway) trying some different techniques on the figs to improve them...hope they are are better than previous ones, you guys let me know what you think.

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Posted by camo junkie on Sunday, September 6, 2009 3:02 PM
he doesnt look like a zombie!!! i see also what ya meant with the green and brown. i think you said your painting them with acrylics right stern0?!?! i dont see anything wrong with him other than his pants look too dark. but keep in mind i only do modern stuff so i dont know if they should be or not. i mean you may not have done any highlights or anything so im just saying! bring it on though buddy!!!Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by Stern0 on Sunday, September 6, 2009 5:42 PM
Yes acrylics...I usually use a oil wash though, this time I tried to wash with with acrylics and it bit me in the rear! You are on the mark with the pants..too dark. I will probably redo them...no highlights yet, I wanted to be sure that everything under was ok...oooh maybe the pants are wet!?!? just a thought..Nah, I'll redo em. Thanks for the extra eyes!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 6, 2009 8:05 PM
Impressive...looks very much like Tarawa...that figgie looks pretty darn good! The camo is pretty convincing, although I'm not sure how many Marines had the full camo outfit---I've seen mostly helmet covers in that pattern in most refs...What is the "mud" you used on the base???
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Posted by Stern0 on Sunday, September 6, 2009 8:07 PM

Here is where it stands today...Final coat of sand (siffted) some veggies and a few scratched palms..Thanks to the U.S. Navy there was not much vegatation left on Betio!Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 6, 2009 9:03 PM
 Mansteins revenge wrote:
Impressive...looks very much like Tarawa...that figgie looks pretty darn good! The camo is pretty convincing, although I'm not sure how many Marines had the full camo outfit---I've seen mostly helmet covers in that pattern in most refs...What is the "mud" you used on the base???
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Posted by m60a3 on Sunday, September 6, 2009 10:26 PM

 

 Shouldn't there be some "blazes" on those trees? Shrapnell marks/damage?

  But it's rocking!

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Posted by *INDY on Sunday, September 6, 2009 10:49 PM
Not in any way boring SternO ~We like WIP threads.  The base is looking really  true-to-life  within the givin space.  (better answer Manny pretty soon,Bud,could get ugly up in har.)

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Posted by camo junkie on Sunday, September 6, 2009 11:31 PM
ok just wondering. im not worried about it as you know what your doing (or make it look easy enough) the pants could be wet...i dont know but you do and have a vision so i'll wait and see what ya get from it! Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by Stern0 on Monday, September 7, 2009 6:21 AM

M.R., Thanks for the positive comments especially on the fig...trying to make them look better and stressing it!!Laugh [(-D] Of course you make it look so easy. The only reason the marine has full camo is the box art...he is the only one, everyone else is mixed with the santinis (green), the flamethrower is just santinis. I used my favorite medium for the base, Sheetrock mud also known as jointcompound. Very cheap, very forgiving.....On previous builds I have made my ground work solid SR mud..I did use some old sanding sponges to "fill" in  this time. The only bad thing about sheetrock mud is drying time...after each layer I sat it in the sun, helped alot., and that was only because it was very thick! Big Smile [:D]

60, Good call!!! Consider the trees marred....I'm sure there wasn't anything around that didn't have shrapnel scars or bullet holes...thanks!!

Indy,Thanks for the realisim comment...my big peeve is to make it as real as possible, frustrating sometimes....

CJ, I did redo the pants and I'll try again....dam figures are killing me!!! Thanks for the help.Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by camo junkie on Monday, September 7, 2009 8:13 AM
your being your won worst critic on your figures. i've heard nothing but positives on them buddy. whoever you know how good you can/cant make them so if you feel you need to do better...you will. since i dont use acrylics its hard for me to say because its just different techniques to achieve the same results. again, there was nothing wrong with your figures on your last dio and even fsm thought it was good enough to put it on the gallery. you'll find the technique that works for ya buddy im sure of that...and your stuff is good so dont let it frustrate you!! Wink [;)]
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Posted by psstoff995 on Monday, September 7, 2009 9:25 AM
This is looking great Stern0! Really like the sandy look you've got. Your Marine looks real good- the pants could be dark because they were wet- I'd buy that, the face is nice though, great detail- looking forward to seeing the Flamethrower!

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Posted by Stern0 on Monday, September 7, 2009 10:45 AM

CJ, Chris, Thank you guys for your support and encouragment on the figs...I see so many outstanding figs from you fellas, I just want to catch up! up until the last few years I have painted my figs (acrylic) then washed with a burnt umber oil wash..thats it! that just won't cut it anymore, you guys have that bar way up there. Just keep telling me whats good and whats not..Many thanks!Big Smile [:D]

BTW. I did redo the pants!Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by camo junkie on Monday, September 7, 2009 12:03 PM
lol...the bar isnt set "that" high stern0. i appreciate the comps buddy but as i said all it is is different mediums between you and i...the results are the same. keep in mind too your looking at a picture and not the "real" thing so flaws and things are "easier" to hide! Whistling [:-^] but as i said it's your figure and if your not happy with it then change it...but dont base it on "our" work. im not saying this in terms of "me" being good but there is always someone who is better at everything you do no matter what it is...that's just fact. therefore, that's y it's important to strive for your own happiness in what you do...otherwise all you'll be is miserable...because in your own mind...you'll never measure up! however, being humble and humility is a good thing (unlike some people in here) as if all you did was say how great you are at what you do and your a proffesional, and blah blah blah, then you'd come across as egotystical and arrogant and then most of us would hate you for it buddy!!!! Laugh [(-D]
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Posted by modelchasm on Monday, September 7, 2009 12:10 PM

Lookin' good there Stern .... as Camo stated .... just keep tinkering and you'll find the technique that works for you.

Again, lookin' good ... keep it comin' ...

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Posted by *INDY on Monday, September 7, 2009 12:13 PM
Stern ~ Go ahead and be your own worst critic ,buddy. Don't stop working until you have satisfied yourself that you've done the best work you can. If you start listening to mediocre minded modelers you may start to believe that's the way to be. Just keep on the way you've been going--with a mind toward continuing to improve, keep trying new ways to get better results. Just ignore the mundane opinions and focus on the exceptional ones.

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Posted by psstoff995 on Monday, September 7, 2009 12:33 PM

Going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you mean mediocre minded modelers in a broad, nonspecific way and you weren't taking jabs at anyone in particular on this thread there indy...

Stern0- when I think of small dioramas with a clear subject/theme at hand- yours quickly come to mind. Hope we all can continue to bounce ideas and inspiration off each other. You put so much emotion into little plastic people (and usually OOB from what I can tell) and that's something I think we all strive for and few achieve.

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Posted by *INDY on Monday, September 7, 2009 12:56 PM
 psstoff995 wrote:

Going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you mean mediocre minded modelers in a broad, non specific way and you weren't taking jabs at anyone in particular on this thread there indy...

I very much meant that in the most broad terms(thanks for the benifit of the doubt). If anybody takes any of that personally, then they would have to reflect on why.

Stern0- when I think of small dioramas with a clear subject/theme at hand- yours quickly come to mind. Hope we all can continue to bounce ideas and inspiration off each other. You put so much emotion into little plastic people (and usually OOB from what I can tell) and that's something I think we all strive for and few achieve.

  I completely agree with that, very well said.

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Posted by camo junkie on Monday, September 7, 2009 1:07 PM

anyhow...can we get back to stern0's build! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by psstoff995 on Monday, September 7, 2009 1:44 PM

Good to hear indy. And also glad you agree with me on Steve's great portrayal of emotion.

But I agree camo! Lets see these new pants!! haha Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Stern0 on Monday, September 7, 2009 2:27 PM

CJ, Good points all around....I know what I like and I know how things should look and I try to get it that way by method ...back to highlighting..you guys have that down and just want to try my hand at it because it looks awsome..and humility....please...the minute anyone thinks they are the best is the minute they see something that makes their work look terrible..a little humbleness goes a long way!

Scott, many thanks! I think that is my journey now...trying to find a techniqe that works, that can be a little taxing.

Indy, I have a pretty good filter when it comes to things I can use to improve my modeling,  But I have yet to read a mundane opinion or come across a mediocre modeler in here...I think that its all relative...I'm very glad to see that you used a broad stroke when saying that. You can bet your boots i'll be striving for improvments!

Chris...Stop making fun of me!Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by camo junkie on Monday, September 7, 2009 3:00 PM

p.m. me with your ?'s buddy. i'll help ya however i can.

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Posted by psstoff995 on Monday, September 7, 2009 3:02 PM
haha sorry Tongue [:P] I was being serious about the emotions though- Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by modelchasm on Monday, September 7, 2009 3:42 PM

... or maybe we could stay away from inflamitory comments to begin with ...

 

Stern ... glad that you got the pants re-painted. Just keep working it, and when you hear the "ding", then you know you're done. HAHA!!!

How many figures are you planning for this one again!?! ... and are you looking to "animate" the flamethrower? (ie .... flaming cotton balls, etc.) ... just curious.

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Posted by modelchasm on Monday, September 7, 2009 3:49 PM
 Stern0 wrote:

...I know what I like and I know how things should look and I try to get it that way by method ...back to highlighting..you guys have that down and just want to try my hand at it because it looks awsome.....

As far as highlighting goes .... As I said before, even though I almost strictly use acrylics, I like highlighting w/ enamels. I have found that acrylics just dry too fast. Enamels give me the time I need. As far as colors to use .... I either use the base color (or a variation of it) or for OD green equipment (as Camo taught me) I use pale yellow. When I started back into modeling I basically read a bunch of how to's and kind-of combined a few methods from each one ... Hard to explain exactly how I finish my figures, but I'm pleased w/ the results.

... and yes, as indy pointed out, I continuously try to improve my finishing skills.

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Posted by Stern0 on Monday, September 7, 2009 4:54 PM

CJ, Will do...thanks a million!Big Smile [:D]

Chris, I was being silly .....thats an incredible compliment, thank you...yep..everything to date except for my frozen germans are OOB..Thanks for noticing..I think..Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

MC, I am going to try to fit all four of the figs in...originaly I wasn't going to put the flamethrower in, was going to have him implied...The pictured Marine is the one yelling FLAMETHROWER UP! so I think the FT will be behind some debris at the end of the wall getting his command....having him flamming the hole would be awsome, but not in the cards on this one...id like to develop good fire first. You do as I do I take a little from each how to and customize it to fit your needs..I finally found a face technique that I can work with (hope it shows) but need to work on those highlights...standby for questions!Dunce [D)] Thanks.Big Smile [:D]

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