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~ ! Clash in Tunisia ! ~ { Final Photos on page 37 }

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Posted by M1Carbine on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 1:13 AM

Guys, you cant miss the Ron Pearlman JAW!

 

Looking great Adam

 

Bob

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Posted by *INDY on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:59 AM

~Andy~ Worth the wait remember! WinkI'm just glad you are really enjoying the blog Mate!

~Karl~ Just a pleasure to have you drop by--thanks for the words of encouragement & appreciation!

~Edmund~ LOL...thanks buddy

~BoB~ Big Smile Thank you---so it's decided then!

Here's a bit more what the colors look like on Sean Penn here....


No dull-cote on him  yet mind you. He's gotten a wash of pigments over his boots to dust them up. I like how the inks performed over the belts & harness, but it could still do with some lightened areas of wear ...and I have his entire fieldpack to add.
 


There is talk amongst some of my modeller-friends that the Commander here resembles actor Ron Pearlman.  Big Smile Very well....we'll have to get him when we cast the movie.Stick out tongue
 
 
Again, this is truer to the colors I've used than the previously posted W.I.P. pictures
 


Been set at work to put some life into my "Laconic German Gunlayer"
 
 More coming right up!

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Posted by *INDY on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:09 AM

 

 

 

I've taken to attaching nearly every little bit of gear to tongue depresors with doublesided tape if large enough...or a small dab of gel C/A as seen here---that way it stays put during the entire process...but can be broken-loose when finished and if needed , touched-up at the attachment point.
 
Typically the steps for equipment go as well-covered elsewhere...there just isn't a better way, as far as I know..(this part will be basic to alot of you)
 

 


I've cleaned the parts, and as these will be 'recently used' shovels, will be sticking in the sand, and I need to paint both sides but bury the tip...they've go on this way.
 


Next step--primer---in this case I used Tamiya Flat Black TS-6 as ii works nicely to undercoat the MP40  and knives ,but I'll often use white or sand tan for tools as basecoat.
 


Then an acylic undercoat on the wood areas.. I used XF-78 Tamiya Wooden Deck Tan
 

 


After fully dry, a heavy coating of VanDyke Brown Windser & Newton Oil paint ( you can vary colours for different wood varieties--burnt sienna works nicely,ect..)After appling most of the oils are rubbed off, brushing 'with the grain' and attempting to leave traces of brushmarks to act as grain, but allowing the base colour to show through to give the wood 'life' Use a dry medium sized brush(a flat works well) and no thinner. wipe the brush off often as you go, removing the excess oil paint .
 


I set the thing aside a few days as I don't trust oils to dry overnight, and later drybrush the metal areas with a suitable metal coloured enamel(in this case Testors Steal & Black)
 
After that, the shovels can be dirtied-up with pigments that match the base , and put into service.
 
More as I have it Gents........thanx as always for tuning in.................

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Posted by I make stuff on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:44 AM

I see Ron Pearlman's jaw..but those are most definately Lee Marvin's lips, he had a really jowly look, especailly in the Big Red One, maybe they are related?  He did play a German in Cross of Iron..hmmm.

Hi Adam, just checking in..No, I haven't taken up stamp collecting.

The spousal unit insisted on a spring cleaning, and the garage is currently eligible for superfund cleanup grants.  I did pick up a nice corner desk that will become my modeling station, instead of the former stand up countertop/workbench.

I still need to do some cleaning, but I will post some before/after pictures in a few days.

Back to your informative and amazing thread...This looks great, I need to go back and read about the ink use, I like the way the straps came out.

I'll call you tomorrow evening, OK?

Bill  

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Posted by *INDY on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:41 AM

Eh CaliBill!!'

Good of you to appear! Yes I've been dodging the Spring-cleaning bullet myself SurpriseI swear I don't horde stuff--my garage does!

Do call !

Oh..and the inks are in use in-proces...so far. Stay tuned to see that really go to work

Update coming up...

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Posted by *INDY on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:50 AM
You gotta get out all the references you can to  see how to paint all the little things these guys we're carrying....
eBay  Image 1 German WWII WW2 M35 Camo Helmet Stahlhelm "EF64Here's a typical DAK helm
 
 
Found these babies on Ebay for only $50 !. I hadn't seen that lens before, wonder if it's original?
 
 Usually only see B&W
 
Now these look original--I believe I'll go with the grey mask
 
KAR98k Mauser  and it's bayo
 
 
Image : Kar 98k Mauser
Ammo pouches for it...seems these usually started out as black and wore to brown
 
 
...along with the 'Y'-straps
 
 
 
I may just have what I need to finish this guy
 
 
 
 
At work on it..........
 
 
 
 
 
"Bonus Shot"

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Posted by *INDY on Thursday, April 15, 2010 8:18 AM
 

Still not completed, but I like how he's coming along....
 
 

For the lens of his goggles, I made the 1st use ever of my new Waldron Sub-Miniature Punch & Die set. After  reading so many amazing scratchbuilders raving about this costly little tool I decided I must have one when our friend Bill found a stash of them at a slightly better price at a LHS near him, and had him pick it up for me. Usually I would make a tiny lens like this with a small bead of clear acylic or Future... but since the lens needed was nice and round I tried this and it worked fairly well. I painted the inside area of the goggle to match the helmet and put a tab of wash to diffues the freshness, metalized the rim and added highlight , and used a little Polly Scale clear as glue to set the minute lenses in place.
 

I did'nt have the heart to tint them when done, so left it as the many examples of clear glass I've seen on these, despite finding the nice tints on the references.. Still, something about this method has 'drawn' the helmet color up to the top surface of the lens, at least visually, so I would try something a little different next time.
 

~Got a good deal done on his kit, but there still plenty of layers needed! He particularly needs highlights to just about everything on his top half--
 

~~Especially still needs work on that bandage on his hand, his boots, entrenching tool and belt
 
But there is hope.........still......I don't know how some of these guys get figures done so fast.
..............................
Back at it soon enough!........................

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, April 15, 2010 8:20 AM

WOW, Indy--these figures are really coming together. There's a nice depth to the painting, and good shading and tone all around!

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Posted by p38jl on Thursday, April 15, 2010 2:41 PM

*INDY

~Con't

~QUESTION ~ Can anyone identify this radio. It came with the Verlinden stuff. What vehicles would this be found in? Is it correct for desert Kubel? http://www.militarymodelling.com/sites/1/images/member_albums/41116/radiowhat.jpg I've thrown some Dark Yellow on so you can see it a little better. Came with 2 each. I guess these are batteries for the radio? Is it likely to have 4? Or 2? Or 1?... Not finding any info about this even on really nice radio sites.......If you know, please share.   !The rest of the resin pieces we're self-exxplainitary. Four good Jerrycans provided with only one! mounting strap(thanks Verlinden-I'd like to mount 2! Guess I'll improvise 1) Theres some German personal equipment(easy to find elsewhere) and some nice templates on the P.E. card for license plate and nazi air I.D. banner, both of which I don't want on my model   Everything with be broken down for painting for a while...   Until next time...............thanx for tuning in again..............  

is the type writed looking thing an Enigma machine??

someone else may have said that,, I havn't scrolled at the way thru yet...

my bad if someone did..

 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, April 15, 2010 3:34 PM

p38jl

 

is the type writed looking thing an Enigma machine??

someone else may have said that,, I havn't scrolled at the way thru yet...

my bad if someone did..

 

Nope.  Some sort of accordian thing seemed to be the consensus.

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by Macktheknife on Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:20 PM

It's an accordion. I actually was re-reading Ambrose's D-Day book wherein there's a story about how Rommel would carry accordions in his staff car during inspections and hand them out to units or strongpoints that pleased him :)

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Posted by *INDY on Friday, April 16, 2010 12:23 AM

the doog

WOW, Indy--these figures are really coming together. There's a nice depth to the painting, and good shading and tone all around!

Thank you Karl-! -All those obervations are great to hear. I know I'm going into alot of build and paint detail with this blog and it's gotten long  long  long. ---->so nice to get those on topic compliments.

Other guys~ Asked and answered regarding the Verlinden accordian, a chunk of resin unused in this build.

{at least I know you're reading this long long blog!}

  

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Posted by psstoff995 on Friday, April 16, 2010 10:39 AM

Nice looking figures, very intense detail work you have going on looks like it's getting close to the end now

so nice to get those on topic compliments.

Other guys~ Asked and answered regarding the Verlinden accordian, a chunk of resin unused in this build.

{at least I know you're reading this long long blog!}

Not surprising after 6 months, 28 pages and countless pictures, you'll always have people stumble across a thread who don't feel like clicking through for an hour or so, and throw dial-up into the mix?? No chance.

If you don't want to continue reiterating yourself, one idea is when you update again, maybe throw in some of the past page numbers and pictures to go along so someone new to the thread can say "oh alright- on page ___ he's painted the groundwork" or whatever without having to click back and find it. Then you can go ahead and continue updating it.

Even the title is misleading as it simply says "Pak 40 Complete" or "figure work" but theres no page number showing where things start and finish.

What I do if I anticipate a long WIP thread is on the very first page I will keep the most current picture- or if it's stages- I'll keep the most current picture of the groundwork, the figures, the vehicles all right there.

As your first page has pictures of all the kits you're using you could go back and edit it to include current pictures of all those kits if you so desired.

Just some suggestions as I've noticed you've complained about off topic comments in at least two threads

Anyway keep up the good work! Yes

-Chris

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Posted by *INDY on Friday, April 16, 2010 5:15 PM

Hi Chris-- Thanks for the suggestions--I think some of those are good one's, though I'm not likely to go back and change the 1st post, but  I've updated it's title all along as to what's going on on the current page--just the best way for this thread to work for me.( I supose if it said"Figure work on current page it would be more clear for them I have planned to create a table of contents when it's finished, to place at the end...and now that you  mention it maybe at the start too. You know...Bike started/bike finished/kubel started/ kubel finished, ect. that sort of thing.  I

 People still have dial-up? Wow,really? sorry for them, they may not care for any of my threads. I like alot of pictures, although making the thread this complete has added one of those months to the build! It was supposed to be a 4 month project......

 ..But I don't care to direct people to any one page or show the end result on the 1st---if somone's interested they will read it through--it's all quite good stuff .

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Posted by *INDY on Friday, April 16, 2010 5:25 PM

 

~My DAK security man is just about there.......


 

I used the inks, grey and black,  atop off-wite and cream-colored Vallejo, to get this dirty looking bandage on his hand settled. It's a difficult feature to make look right...I tried a fw things and  it looks quite good now --- in person at least.---(I think the goggles look very nice in the above shot)
 


Never found a direct reference for that large satchel, but it appeared to me to be a canvas or burlap bag with leather shoulder and securing straps and I like the look of what I got going on that premise.
 
 


I wanted to try to go beyond a bit, really I think he's on par with the state of my figure painting, no better or worse,....I'd like to take a little more care even,...but there's a point I feel like I've fiddled enough...and in the interests of completing the Dio finally, I'd say  yes he's    Stick out tonguedone. (That's nothing needing editing there, it's his entrenching tool, I swear it!)
 
 

I shall return with more ! Thanks for your interest guys....................

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Posted by Schnobs on Friday, April 16, 2010 9:05 PM

Nice Detail Painting Adam!  Your attention to detail is a beacon of Excellence!

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Posted by *INDY on Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:17 AM

~Edmund~ A great thanks ! Great words from a great modeler!

~~Note on the figure painting.....I failed to mention that I've been adding  Vallejo's #597 Slow Dry and a bit of Tamiya X-21 Flat Base to the Vallejo paints in varried amounts to get some effects and avoid glossy results when drybrushing. Sorry I hadn't  said it earlier.
 
 

I've been making good use of the Daler Rowney Inks for some effects also. Here I've used different amounts of Sepia (sometimes darkened with black) , thinned with just a little water it gets to be very easily manipulated from opaque to semi-transparent.  I've used the ink over a white primer coat followed by a wash of yellow-khaki Vallejo mix.
 
The wood handles for the entrenching tools we're done with Burnt Umber Ink,with a tiny bit of black, over some Vallejo Buff(a viable alternative to the slow drying oil paint???)
 
~~More updates as I have them friends.............................................

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Posted by M1Carbine on Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:49 AM

Adam - I want more man, this is just awsome.  Your attention to detail and history is absolutly spot on brother.  More pics man....more pics.

 

Bob

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Posted by *INDY on Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:56 AM

Hey Boydd,

Man thanks for throwin in a good answer to that accordian question--sorry to try and shut down that convo,,I was just amazed to see 3 posts about that 2 months later from people that had nothing at all to say about what was really going on on the thread....Like I said..at least I know you are viewing it, and you've already told me you like what I'm doing so--that's cool--you're always cool Buddy--thanx!

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Posted by deafpanzer on Saturday, April 17, 2010 10:52 AM

Adam, just keep going... Figures and Diomara don't get much attention like other forums but plenty of lurkers.  I see that your forum has been visited more than 13,500 times!  A good sign that people kept coming back again and again.  I have been following your work for a long time... I don't see many great toots on figure painting since many of us fear painting figures.  Trust me I'd buy you plenty of Beer if we ever run into each other at national model show. Big Smile

Andy

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Posted by *INDY on Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:11 AM

~Bob ~ Right on Man ~ I appreciate that--Don't worry I know what's up...tons of pics it will be!

~Andy~ Thanks Buddy~Trying to produce something of high quality takes alot of time and hard work and sometimes doesn't seem appreciated or  worth it......some of those lurkers are saboteurs..some just want you to need alot of help and ask questions......some are just waiting to pounce on you for the tiniest error.....probably I should try to get people more involved.....generally I just do my own research as I go and then demonstrate what I want to do here, not try to get the whole forums hands in it.  Thanks to you for loving it for what it's worth!.

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:37 AM

*INDY

~Bob ~ Right on Man ~ I appreciate that--Don't worry I know what's up...tons of pics it will be!

~Andy~ Thanks Buddy~Trying to produce something of high quality takes alot of time and hard work and sometimes doesn't seem appreciated or  worth it......some of those lurkers are saboteurs..some just want you to need alot of help and ask questions......some are just waiting to pounce on you for the tiniest error.....probably I should try to get people more involved.....generally I just do my own research as I go and then demonstrate what I want to do here, not try to get the whole forums hands in it.  Thanks to you for loving it for what it's worth!.

Indy,

Just wanted to chime in about the whole post count/views/comments thing. As you know, I've done many. many WIPs here, and like you, I'm often puzzled by the ration of "hits" to comments left.Sometimes it does seem as if your efforts are not appreciated. 

However, the somewhat-altruistic impulse to give back to the hobby, to educate, to inspire, and to be recognized as one who will take the time and effort to actually share his skill and ideas is what drives me--and in the end, the result is that you get the net rewards of increasing your reputation and notability through those efforts alone.

You have the disadvantage that you ARE in a forum that is undoubtedly less-traveled than others. I really never go into the "Figures" forums unless prompted. So you may have people who have already commented just coming back to have a looksee, but thinking that they already commented so...

You want tough? Try posting in "Auto's"--lol! Man, it's tough to get almost anything happening over there at all. And other forums are even more like a desert island where you're almost like, building for yourself. Basically, what we do is a spectator sport for others in a big way, and let's face it too--figures are pretty much self-contained builds, where there's not necessarily a lot of need for corrections or input, especially when you seem to know what you're doing, and have a method that is producing fine results.

So carry on, and the reward will be a long WIP that serves as an inspiration and tutorial for others. I always find that to be good enough in itself!

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Posted by Dr. Coffee on Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:53 AM

the doog

So carry on, and the reward will be a long WIP that serves as an inspiration and tutorial for others. I always find that to be good enough in itself!

Hmm... I have enjoyed this thread to some extent, but have a couple of comments on how to improve it, for people like me, the casual stroller-by novice:

  1. This thread has offspring in a couple of fora, which is confusing at best; all out annoying at worst. Keep it in one place, and instead cross-post, if that's possible within the constraints of this forum server.
  2. It would be nice to have one post to get to (the first), to see the whole picture. It will become a big post in time, but when things have grown into dozens of pages and hundreds (or thousands) of posts, it is impossible to see the big picture by browsing every individual post.
  3. What I personally would like to see more of in this thread, is technique. The posts I have seen over the past couple of weeks show a lot of results of what you have done; not how you achieved them. As a matter of fact, without learning the techniques, I - the novice modeler - is left dumbstruck: "I will never be able to do that... better find something else to spend time with." The tutorial aspect is the difference between inspiring people to become better at what they do, and driving them away from the hobby.

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:19 PM

Dr. Coffee

 

 the doog:

 

 

So carry on, and the reward will be a long WIP that serves as an inspiration and tutorial for others. I always find that to be good enough in itself!

 

 

 

Hmm... I have enjoyed this thread to some extent, but have a couple of comments on how to improve it, for people like me, the casual stroller-by novice:

  1. This thread has offspring in a couple of fora, which is confusing at best; all out annoying at worst. Keep it in one place, and instead cross-post, if that's possible within the constraints of this forum server.
  2. It would be nice to have one post to get to (the first), to see the whole picture. It will become a big post in time, but when things have grown into dozens of pages and hundreds (or thousands) of posts, it is impossible to see the big picture by browsing every individual post.
  3. What I personally would like to see more of in this thread, is technique. The posts I have seen over the past couple of weeks show a lot of results of what you have done; not how you achieved them. As a matter of fact, without learning the techniques, I - the novice modeler - is left dumbstruck: "I will never be able to do that... better find something else to spend time with." The tutorial aspect is the difference between inspiring people to become better at what they do, and driving them away from the hobby.

DoC

Dr Coffee, with all due respect to your well-intentioned sentiments and observations here, I would suggest that you try to post a WIP thread so that you get more insight into the actual process and difficulties of what you have articulated in your suggestions. Specifically, trying to find a way to photograph your actual technique-in-motion, as it were. Sometimes the only thing you CAN do is to photograph the results and then explain them.And even that takes TIME. It really is a time-consuming process sometimes.

You'll also see how the progression of commentary goes, and the sometimes daunting task of having to acknowledge every comment for fear of offending someone by omission. The threads grow long in part due to human nature; ie, the sense of community that fosters dialogue, and what can seem like "chatter". But it's all a part of the dynamics of the site. Honestly, you should try to do a WIP yourself to see what's involved. Wink

I think INDY is doing a fine job of walking us through the steps here. It's hard to photograph a technique when you're holding the paintbrush or modeling knife in one hand...Smile

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Posted by *INDY on Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:39 PM

Thanks to you Doog for articulating all that. I'm not sure if my thread really suits a "casual stroller-by" , there is alot to stop and check out......like I said I think it's worth it  ....but it is" novice friendly"

I've posted in Autos..     my 

Tamiya Citroen Traction 11 CV 1/35 Scale  I had a good experience there, but it was a little quiet
DrCoffee-        --Getting the most out of this thread or any other really  takes some real studying to see whats going on    

                        ----You won't see the "big picture" until it's complete

                       ----If there's any specific questions--please ask them....regarding technique or whatever else you think is missing ...as Doog said..it's a ton of work already---you are saying I need to do an even more involved detailed explaination and I haven't heard you ask anything. My thread doesn't asume this is the 1st WIP someones ever read, but does include tons of basic technique, and more. I don't stop to explain the jargon commonly used, as that really gets tiresome for most people to read- and I realize alot of details can hide behind any one simple word, such as wash, blend, and darken-  but if there's some actual questions..please ask.

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Posted by Dr. Coffee on Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:55 PM

the doog

 Dr. Coffee:

 The tutorial aspect is the difference between inspiring people to become better at what they do, and driving them away from the hobby.

DoC

 

Dr Coffee, with all due respect to your well-intentioned sentiments and observations here, I would suggest that you try to post a WIP thread so that you get more insight into the actual process and difficulties of what you have articulated in your suggestions. Specifically, trying to find a way to photograph your actual technique-in-motion, as it were.

I remember seeing something a few months ago, about how to pain figure heads. Showed a lot of images at various stages, basic coats, basic shadows, highlights, blending... I also had the pleasure of enjoying your own tutorials on how to assemble armor tracks. Stuff like that strip of tape on the table, that lets you hold the tracklink in place before you glue it at the end. So it can be done.

On the other hand, I have more or less stopped buying FSM because the magazine contains less and less technique and seems to drift more over to discussing what details to convert, if one wants to model an obscure version of an arcane subject. Probably interesting to the afficionados of that obscure subject, but not what I am looking for. I pick up the ideas I need, like how to fill seems and gaps with putty and cleaning it with solvents, in other magazines.

A lot of people here have a lot to teach. The lurkers, like me, have a lot to learn. The question is how to have all these interests come together.

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:03 PM

Dr. Coffee

 

 the doog:

 

 

 Dr. Coffee:

 The tutorial aspect is the difference between inspiring people to become better at what they do, and driving them away from the hobby.

DoC

 

Dr Coffee, with all due respect to your well-intentioned sentiments and observations here, I would suggest that you try to post a WIP thread so that you get more insight into the actual process and difficulties of what you have articulated in your suggestions. Specifically, trying to find a way to photograph your actual technique-in-motion, as it were.

 

I remember seeing something a few months ago, about how to pain figure heads. Showed a lot of images at various stages, basic coats, basic shadows, highlights, blending... I also had the pleasure of enjoying your own tutorials on how to assemble armor tracks. Stuff like that strip of tape on the table, that lets you hold the tracklink in place before you glue it at the end. So it can be done.

On the other hand, I have more or less stopped buying FSM because the magazine contains less and less technique and seems to drift more over to discussing what details to convert, if one wants to model an obscure version of an arcane subject. Probably interesting to the afficionados of that obscure subject, but not what I am looking for. I pick up the ideas I need, like how to fill seems and gaps with putty and cleaning it with solvents, in other magazines.

A lot of people here have a lot to teach. The lurkers, like me, have a lot to learn. The question is how to have all these interests come together.

DoC  

> I understand, Doc. There ARE ways to do it, for sure. I'm just saying that it is a time-consuming and tedious process. I have to not only take the photos, but edit, correct, label, post and explain them.

All I was trying to say was, it's a different horse to ride when you can just get on it and gallop, then when you have to board, feed, brush, and shoe the horse! Wink

I'm supposed to have an article being published soon, I think. On weathering and using filters over a German halftrack. Hopefully, it will be of use to you and others enough to buy the issue!

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Posted by *INDY on Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:18 PM

Dr. Coffee

On the other hand, I have more or less stopped buying FSM because the magazine contains less and less technique and seems to drift more over to discussing what details to convert, if one wants to model an obscure version of an arcane subject. Probably interesting to the afficionados of that obscure subject, but not what I am looking for. I pick up the ideas I need, like how to fill seems and gaps with putty and cleaning it with solvents, in other magazines.

DoC  

You know Dr Coffee... I think .that's just garbage. Yeah there's plenty of complex conversion articles, but there's  endless basic how-to articles in Finescale--PLENTY---and speaking out against the magazine in this space is not welcome,  AND  with respect to all involved, this conversation is  is the kind of thing that weakens the quality of a good WIP -. so please...lets just leave it here.

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Posted by Dr. Coffee on Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:15 PM

*INDY
 speaking out against the magazine in this space is not welcome, 

I don't know who you are or what role or relation you have with FSM, or why yoi pretend to speak on behalf of the publishers.

Now, in my work, feedback about what people are unhappy with, what might be the reasons why they go to my competitors, is very valuable. It allows me to judge how my potential customers value my product, and why I lose business. It allows me to change the stuff that cause people not to buy what I attempt to sell. That way I can stay in business. 

The worst feedback is the unconditional positive stuff. It tells you nothing of value.

DoC 

  • Member since
    April 2008
  • From: Ventura (at the beach) in California
Posted by *INDY on Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:01 PM

Like I said Coffee--leave it where it was--I'm not going to quote your little rant so you can go back and edit it--it's out of place as well----go put your suggestions about the magazine in the Suggestions & Feedback Forum.(that's where your negitive feelings about FSM belong [if anywhere]) Who I am is obvious--I'm the author of this thread and I'm telling you this is no place for bashing the magazine. Continued posts along these lines are not welcome. Thanks. I came here to update my build log-so please stay out of the way

"Well...you gunna pull them pistols, or just whistle Dixie?"

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