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Diorama "Morocco 1943"
Posted by Model Maniac on Friday, October 8, 2010 11:42 AM

Diorama "Morocco 1943" using Tamiya's Quad Gun Tractor and Master Box's Commonwealth AFV Crew - by "Art Instructor":

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Posted by subfixer on Friday, October 8, 2010 9:50 PM

Nice detail on the camel saddle.

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Saturday, October 9, 2010 6:17 AM

I will second that

 

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Posted by total american patriot on Saturday, October 9, 2010 10:36 AM

i really like the dio. the painting and weathering is very well done. So was the groundwork. But the camel looks a bit out of place. Stick out tongue

 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Saturday, October 9, 2010 12:43 PM

Im Sure there are camels in Morocco, they were used all over the middle east and north African continent for ages, there perfect for crossing deserts.

 

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Posted by ajlafleche on Saturday, October 9, 2010 2:16 PM

smeagol the vile

Im Sure there are camels in Morocco, they were used all over the middle east and north African continent for ages, there perfect for crossing deserts.

I think he meant in context of the story, especially since the rider is looking off into the distance and not at the guy in the turban. More preblematic, tough, are the kneeling and sitting guys between the truck and the camel.

I agree, the saddle blanket looks okay in the smaller sized pictures, but the full size ones show some, well, less than stellar painting.

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Posted by EasyMike on Monday, October 11, 2010 8:06 AM

smeagol the vile
...Im Sure there are camels in Morocco, they were used all over the middle east and north African continent for ages, there perfect for crossing deserts...

Do Google Images or check your reference sources.  How many of them show native camels in any proximity to WWII military action?

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Posted by mfsob on Monday, October 11, 2010 8:24 AM

I'm wondering about the random Sikh?

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Posted by ajlafleche on Monday, October 11, 2010 8:34 AM

mfsob

I'm wondering about the random Sikh?

Not impossible for North Africa though the specific time and place identified in the title might be questionable for his presence: "

  • 3/12th (Royal) Frontier Force Regiment

The 3/12th FFR was part of the 5th Indian Infantry Division during the East African and Western Desert Campaigns. The 3/12th FFR was all but destroyed at El Adem on 15 June 1942. It was reformed in Egypt before transferring to the 4th Indian Infantry Division.[8]"

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, October 11, 2010 11:15 AM

Tunisia, Spring 1943

My comment MM would be that there's two competing elements here. The camel rider is pretty high end, so obviously he's a story unto himself.

OTOH, the gun tractor might well have an encounter with this normal guy along the road.

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Posted by subfixer on Monday, October 11, 2010 6:29 PM

So, a better title would probably identify the location as Egypt, not Morocco.

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Posted by hutchdh on Monday, October 11, 2010 8:37 PM

If you look real close, one of the characters is Bob Hope and the other Bing.

I think it adds some levity to the scene...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, October 17, 2010 2:24 PM

No tracks or foot prints that I can see, plus there's very little ground color tying the figures and tractor to the groundwork..  No storyline that's readily apparent...

Interesting as a kit display, but not a real good diorama...

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Posted by psstoff995 on Monday, October 18, 2010 3:20 PM

I'd have to agree on the lack of a story, a few little hints of one with the shared conversation over a meal, but what stopped the Brits from driving right past? Are they lost? Out of fuel? Bored? Meal break? All of the above?! I do like the weathering on the Quad and everything's well painted albeit not dusted or blended into the groundwork. Tracks and prints would be nice.

I think given the past problems of the builder- no story is much better than 5 or 6 competing elements with no theme and only pure imaginative comedy to tie them together on our part. I'd say this is a pretty solid piece given expectations.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, October 18, 2010 4:11 PM

I only comment for the sake of budding dio-builders anyway, who may stumble across these...  Frankly,it doen't look like Moroccan desert  and other than a title nodding towards such a locale, there's little evidence, aside from the Arabs and the camel, that it's Morocco, or even 1943, or that it's the Golan Heights in 1967... Matter of fact, it looks more like the Golan Heights than Africa..

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Posted by psstoff995 on Monday, October 18, 2010 4:28 PM

haha yeah I agree with you on that. Just meant that this is a little more palatable than the usual shake and bake, out of the box builds AI's done in the past. The people and the vehicle more or less fit on the base, the groundwork doesn't look like a huge after thought...

And for the average budding builder to stumble across this thread- might look like a bunch of elitists picking away at every little thing. There's a history with the builder and I think for that particular builder's history this one could have been a lot worse. Could have made a smaller base the size of the Quad and forgot to add the camel and in a last minute effort- glued it down on the roof!

I think this might get a few looks if it were at a contest or a show or something, probably wouldn't take a metal, it's more or less forgettable and doesn't have a plot but it's not blatantly ridiculous. I think it sure fits in nice and maybe even stands out among the rest of the "collection".

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Posted by telsono on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 5:06 PM

The title for one thing is terrible for this subject as the British didn't enter Morocco, it was the Western Task Force under Patton (US 2nd Armored, 3rd and 9th Infantry Divisions). Using Algeria or Tunisia in the title would be more accurate, especially the latter.

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:30 PM

telsono

The title for one thing is terrible for this subject as the British didn't enter Morocco

Sure they did, when the Germans ran them out of Egypt in '35. Didn't you see that movie?

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, October 22, 2010 8:33 AM

telsono

The title for one thing is terrible for this subject as the British didn't enter Morocco, it was the Western Task Force under Patton (US 2nd Armored, 3rd and 9th Infantry Divisions). Using Algeria or Tunisia in the title would be more accurate, especially the latter.

Mike T.

Now THAT woulda been funny if the dio had an officer with a map pointing one way and the Arab pointing the other...

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Posted by telsono on Friday, October 22, 2010 1:58 PM

Hans - that vehicle must have gotten great gas mileage to get all the way to Morocco without the Vichy troops stopping them! That officer must have his magnetic declinations wrong or reversed sideways. If you read "To War In A Stringbag" you would remember that the French weren't too hospitable to the Brits they found in country.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, October 22, 2010 4:03 PM

Now don't go gettin' all "RC" on me, Mike.. Toast  Sorry, lol... I switched from the Percocet to Oxycontin today, lol...

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Posted by bondoman on Friday, October 22, 2010 8:57 PM

telsono

Hans - that vehicle must have gotten great gas mileage to get all the way to Morocco without the Vichy troops stopping them! That officer must have his magnetic declinations wrong or reversed sideways. If you read "To War In A Stringbag" you would remember that the French weren't too hospitable to the Brits they found in country.

Mike T.

Well, we did sink their navy and destroy / capture most of their garrison. When my F-I-L spent the Spring vacationing in Tunisia, before the Sardinian invasion, they made great friends with the Italians that they rounded up. those guys were really glad their war was over.

Here's another nifty pic he took there.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, October 23, 2010 3:34 PM

Great pics, B-Man..

Wish I'd have been able to save Dad's pictures from WW2... He lost 'em (Along with a bunch of other stff I wanted) in the '93 flood...

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Posted by Model Maniac on Sunday, October 24, 2010 7:59 AM

Thanks for all comments and compliments! I really appreciate them! On second thought I think "Tunisia 1942" would be a better name for this dio. But then again that would be very probable and thus not questionable and debatable as it has been. So I retain the original name. ;-)

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Posted by subfixer on Monday, October 25, 2010 4:16 AM

So, you enjoy causing controversy? Are you implying that we should just ignore your posts? I don't get it.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:41 AM

subfixer

So, you enjoy causing controversy? Are you implying that we should just ignore your posts? I don't get it.

Yes, he loves the controversy.  To him it is a measure of how great the pieces are since they are getting a lot of attention.  Good or bad, he doesn't care.  It is just the attention he is after.  The "Atta Boys!"   

I have pretty much come to ignore them as well.  The last few batches have gone without a reply on most of them.  It is better to just let them fade away to later pages as they don't change and never will.

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Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:12 PM

HeavyArty

 subfixer:

So, you enjoy causing controversy? Are you implying that we should just ignore your posts? I don't get it.

 

Yes, he loves the controversy.  To him it is a measure of how great the pieces are since they are getting a lot of attention.  Good or bad, he doesn't care.  It is just the attention he is after.  The "Atta Boys!"   

I have pretty much come to ignore them as well.  The last few batches have gone without a reply on most of them.  It is better to just let them fade away to later pages as they don't change and never will.

I get it, ignore them I will.

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Posted by mfsob on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:14 AM

Or as Yoda said, Ignore them I shall, yes. 2 cents

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Posted by oddmanrush on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:23 AM

bondoman

 

 

Here's another nifty pic he took there.

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm150/6134rdm/Page0007-2.jpg

Bondoman, that's a really cool pic. I've often seen pictures like this of knocked out tanks that are completely missing their tracks. Does any one know where they go? Do the locals come and strip them for the steel? Those things are heavy, not exactly an easy task...

 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:32 AM

No no no no no, its not the locals, its the Track Gnomes.

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