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Winter in Chechnya - a 1/72nd scale WIP diorama.

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  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, August 19, 2012 7:01 AM

Hello!

An interesting build and a solid piece of modern history! A very characteristic sight of the Chechnya war was a tank's turret laying a few meters away from the hull - result of ammo explosion, that was stored below the turret floor. They said first tank with ejection seats for the crew - ain't that a cruel joke...

As for the barrels - first you need to check your references, if they left them on or not. I believe those tanks can be released in combat from inside of the tank, but I'm not sure about that. If you want to picture an ambush, maybe it would be better to leave them on (unsuspecting victim!). In that case I'd sand both halves of the barrels on a flat piece of abrasive, removing any pins and making sure the halves mate nicely, then I'd glue them with liquid glue, letting some molten plastic come out of the joints, and giving you time to adjust the halves carefully. After it all dries, you will probably be able to sand it nicely. Should it fail, you can always make camo nets using a piece of elastic bandage. The barrels are always in standard green out of the warehouse.

Hope it helps, good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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    September 2006
  • From: Australia
Posted by Blitzwing on Sunday, August 19, 2012 6:34 AM

While the barrels on the back are fairly common, I'm not sure they would go into battle with them attached since they would be fairly big fire hazards. I'd just leave them off and there are quite a few pics of  T-80's without fuel barrels on the back.

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  • Member since
    October 2010
  • From: Ireland
Posted by AlcatrazLogan on Sunday, August 19, 2012 4:02 AM

Alright, so I can't upload any pictures for the next week but I can still make a small post and ask a few questions.

You'll often see Russian tanks carrying extra fuel in the form of two fuel barrels mounted on the rear of the vehicle. In reality my tank would presumably be no different as it would be on extended operations in Chechnya; that extra fuel would come in handy.

However after examining the external fuel tanks on my T-80 kit I'm not very satisfied. The barrels come in two halves and the overall join is poor in my opinion.

First of all there are several strips of banding that wrap around the barrel. Where the two halves meet the banding is out of sync, sticking out to far at one side. This is difficult to explain without pictures. Secondly, there is a seam running down the length of the barrel where the halves meet. This seam runs across the banding and looks very awkward to clean up and sand flat.

Finally on each flat end of the barrels there is a prominent step between the halves and that too looks very awkward to fix. So I'm caught in a dilemma, I want to use the fuel tanks but I might not be able to fix them. I've been thinking about concealing them instead.

I had a thought about wrapping the barrels in a tarp. Perhaps the crew have done it in a crude attempt at keeping the cold away from the tanks. Perhaps the barrels were picked up at a depot and, for whatever reason, were left in their original colour which is bright and compromises the camouflage on the tank and so the crew tried to hide them.

Anyone have any thoughts on what I should do here or whether covering the tanks up is a good idea?

  • Member since
    October 2010
  • From: Ireland
Posted by AlcatrazLogan on Friday, August 17, 2012 4:09 AM

Just to let you guys know that there will be a brief intermission of about a week with the build log. I just realised I’m riding the limits of my broadband allowance for this month.

I can’t risk uploading more pictures or I’ll end up facing ridiculous extra charges that I’m not particularly passionate about paying. Them’s the breaks I guess.

  • Member since
    October 2010
  • From: Ireland
Posted by AlcatrazLogan on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:35 AM

Eventually I plan to do a Gulf War diorama using one of Revell's M60 tanks and if I'm right the M60 doesn't have side skirts, that could be problematic.

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    September 2006
  • From: Australia
Posted by Blitzwing on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 11:23 PM

Sometimes that's what I love about side skirts, you can't see behind them so if there are some problems with length and link tracks you can hide them on the top run.

Nice bit of history there. I always find it interesting how countries seem to think that they can send armour into urban areas without accompanying infantry despite numerous conflicts in the past where everyone that tried that has walked away with a bloody nose.

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    October 2010
  • From: Ireland
Posted by AlcatrazLogan on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:54 PM

The Lower Hull & Tracks

My plan for the tank is to build it up and add the missing turret details when I have them. Then I’ll paint it but only partially weather it. The tank will be finished well ahead of the base and I can’t be certain I’ll pull off the exact same colour mud twice.

I’ve started construction with the lower hull which comes in three pieces, a tub and two sidewalls which already have the suspension included. The fit was more or less good with just a few little gaps. I filled those in with Liquid Green Stuff and did a little sanding.

Liquid Green Stuff is a product from Games Workshop and small amounts of work it’s perfect. Small gaps, dents, scratches and so on are no problem for this stuff. It comes in a small pot, the same style pots as all other Games Workshop paints, and it is water based. So you can just dip a brush in, apply it where needed and wash the brush out in water, it’ll come right off. It’s great for sanding as well.

I’ve used a few other fillers and putties before that just don’t work out like this does. For example I tried Revell Modelling Putty, Plasto, which I found very difficult to use and sand away. I’ve also used Vallejo Plastic Putty but I found that when I tried to sand it, it would just crumble and this happened even after a full day of drying. So yeah, I’d recommend Liquid Green Stuff.

Each of the road wheels and the idlers come in two parts and join together with next to no problems. You just need to check each one for any bit of flash that might be present because it could cause the halves to misalign slightly which will cost you later.

The sprocket caused me no end of problems, it comes in three pieces with a disc in the middle and not sure why. I think the disc is supposed to keep the teeth of the tracks in line but on the kit it’s awkward. Again you need to be careful otherwise the next part can get pretty messed up.

Revell, and I guess Matchbox before them, favour link and length track sections which I have a love\hate relationship with. I prefer them to vinyl tracks because vinyl is difficult to work with in any scale, let alone 1/72nd. At the same time I find you need to be very precise with link and length or you’ll fall short.

The link sections partially wrap around the idler and the sprocket and then you hook the lengths into those. To add some extra realism you can bend the length sections where they meet the idlers and sprockets, it makes them look less angled and square.

As you can see my tracks look a little off at the front and at the back two. Something has gone slightly wrong with the positioning of the idlers and the sprockets which is a bit annoying. In fact in order to get the back tracks links to fit properly I cut a few teeth off of the sprocket. It’s not too big a deal really because once it goes onto the base surrounded by snow and mud you’ll probably not notice, I hope.

Because my tracks are slightly bent at the front and the back the top track length wouldn’t fit without a gap on both sides. That’s why I said to be careful up above. The return rollers are also lacking in detail, they’re really just round pegs. It doesn’t really matter though because the T-80 has rubber skirts along its flanks and when they’re fitted to the upper hull and the upper hull is fitted to the lower hull you can’t see up the upper track run or the return rollers. I don’t really feel like fooling around with more track if you’re not going to see it anyway, especially once it’s fitted to the base.

That’s all for now, there’s only a few pieces to be added to the upper hull before its joined to the lower hull. These kits can go together in no time at all.

  • Member since
    October 2010
  • From: Ireland
Posted by AlcatrazLogan on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 4:31 AM

It was actually the camouflage scheme was lead to the entire diorama concept. It's basically a two-tone white and green scheme, sort of Olive Green. 

It's very similar to this scheme without the grey. I don't know how authentic it is, I think the Russians call it woodland winter. Either way this is the scheme I'm going for. 

  • Member since
    June 2012
Posted by ghostt180 on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:44 AM

Sounds like an interesting project. Different to the norm, I wouldn't even know what camo scheme to apply! Look forward to following you're progress.

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    August 2007
  • From: back country of SO-CAL, at the birth place of Naval Aviation
Posted by DUSTER on Monday, August 13, 2012 11:45 PM

OK got the sippers on and the popcorn ready;  this looks to be fun to watch.

Steve

Building the perfect model---just not quite yet  Confused

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    December 2004
  • From: ohio
Posted by vonryan on Monday, August 13, 2012 11:21 AM

] Alcatraz  looks like a good build coming up. i'll keep an eye on this one . wow a lot of detail on that tiny tank  YesBig Smile

 

Clay

  • Member since
    October 2010
  • From: Ireland
Winter in Chechnya - a 1/72nd scale WIP diorama.
Posted by AlcatrazLogan on Sunday, August 12, 2012 4:44 AM

Introduction

I decided to take the plunge and try my hand at making a diorama. It’s not something I have experience with so it’s a whole new field for me. 1/35th scale is just a bit to large though and a bit to bank breaking and, trust me, the bank is pretty broken to begin with.

So I’m going to do it in 1/72nd scale instead; it’s more affordable and I can fit it in into my display case a whole lot easier.

I’m calling the diorama War in Chechnya and it’s going to be really simple; I’m getting a Russian tank, a T-80 in this case, some Chechen rebel figures and I’m hopefully going to create a snow-scape ambush scene. That sounds simple enough to me. It’s going be a long-term project though because I can’t afford to purchase all of the materials upfront but who needs to rush anyway?

The T-80 Main Battle Tank

A little background history on the T-80; before the First Chechen War, which sparked off in 1994, the T-80 had never been used in anger. It remained untested with rather inexperienced crews which would prove disastrous in the beginning.

The Chechen defenders, on the other hand, were well experienced and pretty well equipped. Many of them were former members of the Russian military who had served and survived the brutal war in Afghanistan, they had the experience and they still had the equipment.

It was during the Battle of Grozny, the Chechen capital, that the T-80’s suffered the most. They were sent in unsupported by infantry and were quickly overwhelmed by RPG’s. Lacking Explosive Reactive Armour the RPG’s punched through into the ammunition storage in the hull causing a catastrophic explosion. Lessons were learned during that battle, that’s for sure.

You need look no further than Revell for a T-80 in 1/72nd scale as they have three versions of the same kit available, although two of those versions might be rare. The kit has its origins with Matchbox but it’s a good kit without real issues.

The first version of the kit was released by Revell in 1995 and is pictured above, that’s the kit I have. It’s simply a Revell reboxing of the Matchbox kit with no updates which is a shame. You see when Matchbox designed the kit they made a curious decision to leave the turret rather bare. The kit is missing an IR searchlight, smoke grenade launchers, a bustle rack and one or two storage boxes. This version of the kit isn’t readily available anymore but you can still pick it up second hand, guess where in Dublin I got mine?

The second version of this kit is a T-80B and Revell has added all the missing turret grubbins back in. The third version is a T-80BV which further adds Explosive Reactive Armour blocks to the tank. The T-80B is the main release from Revell and the one readily available from stores; I’m not sure about the BV though.

Now I’m not terribly concerned with bustle racks and storage boxes, I plan to buy some aftermarket stowage anyway and cover the turret with it. But I can’t let the searchlight and smoke dischargers go, they’re prominent features on a Russian MBT and have been since the 1950’s and the T-55.

What I plan to do is pick up a Revell T-72M1, which is a fine kit, and borrow its searchlight and smoke launchers. That kit will then go into a different diorama further on up the road, a Gulf War diorama. As it happens I’ve seen many a picture of Iraqi T-72’s with their smoke launchers and so on.

That’s pretty much the introduction to a long and hopefully successful build blog. Wish me luck because I think I’ll need it.

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