Red Dawn Diorama thoughts

The Soviet paratroopers would have had BMD Airborne Infantry Fighting Vehicles (seen at the roadblock sequence) and ASU-85 assault guns. Their antitank weaponry would include various RPGs, SPG-9 Recoilless Rifles, and ATGMs such as AT-3 Saggers, AT-4 Spigots, or AT-7 Saxhorns. Potentially by night fall some helicopter gunships such as Hind Ds could have been flown in to a captured airfield by AN-24s and been made operational. I personally would have loved that sequence of battle in the movie

I thought it would of been cool, to see an abrams tank assault along with some m60's, except all the wreckage in the field seemed to be light armor and nothing heavy

Were there any love scenes in the movie?

No, why do you ask?

Why do you think?  Dio possibilities...

Oh I see, No I dont remember any, but there was alot of good action scenes, and then there were some that left it to the imagination of what happened.

A good what if movie with love scenes is "Tomorrow When the War Began"

I'll check into that---still looking for some figs modeled after the movie, "Inglorious Bastards"...

Give it a few years and there will be

Its been a few years...

Then start writing angry letters to every resin company, or make your own, Im sure your very capable of doing it given your expertise

Yeah, I could do it but I'd rather continue to be lazy and pay good money for 'em when they come out...

haha, I could see that being a good idea, but hell your good at this stuff, you should produce some and sell them

I suppose it would be possible to take parts from different figure sets, some A and B epoxy and come up with some Wolverine figures.

If someone marketed a resin "Red Dawn" figure set they might run into some licensing issues with MGM.  Of course the set could be called "The Timber Wolf resistance. Most people would figure it out.

Im more interested with a diorama depicting the U.S. army trying to retake the town

WOLVERINES!

How would Hinds be brought in by An-24s? they won't fit unless they're turned into small parts and pices.

I know thats what im thinking, but they would of had air support, i mean logically they would of air dropped onto an airport and taken it, landed some armor while awaiting fr the main army groups to come from alaska. The again, helicopters flying from cuba, and there south american countries allied with the soviet union could of easily landed and refueled at newly captured airfields.

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How would Hinds be brought in by An-24s? they won't fit unless they're turned into small parts and pices.

Sorry, I was thinking the AN-124 Condor, not the AN-24 Coke

Tankluver

I know thats what im thinking, but they would of had air support, i mean logically they would of air dropped onto an airport and taken it, landed some armor while awaiting fr the main army groups to come from alaska. The again, helicopters flying from cuba, and there south american countries allied with the soviet union could of easily landed and refueled at newly captured airfields.

Yes but you are talking a time issue here. Helicopter Gunships flying at well under 200 knots would take a long time to reach Colorado from any FOB in Mexico even with refueling points set up in between. The Soviet airborne would have had to have seized an airfield capable of landing the AN-124s to get the Hinds delivered shortly afterwards. They then have to be rolled off the transports, prepped for flight operations, and then been able to launch. Not a short quick process.

true true, so that means they either had air landed armor, or used captured equipment, I really doubt paratroopers with RPGs could hold off for sch a long time against armor

They would have had some AT weaponry (the types I listed above in an earlier post here) with them, plus what ever was flown in afterwards until relief forces arrived. Soviet Airborne had light armor of BMDs and ASUs as part of their TO&E. Now mind you, the only Regular Army Mech unit in that part of the country at that time (mid 80's) was the 4th Infantry Division at Ft Carson. And they were not equipped with the latest and greatest (M1 Abrams/M2&3 Bradleys vs. M60A1/M113 mix) then as they would be years later. Any other ground forces would be Army Reserve and Army National Guard which would have had even older equipment such as M48A5s. Infantry can hold off Armor under favorable conditions. Especially if one side is better trained and more highly determined than the other. I don't think captured stuff would much come in to play in the Red Dawn opening battles scenario. Rather a well executed anti armor ambush at close range carried out against a not so well led and equipped Mech/Armor Task Force.

That makes alot more sense, so most likely the M48s would be used, I noticed they had a burnt out M42 duster also in the movie. Would M51 Also have been used or would that have been to outdated for a national guard force?

I'll wager the M42 was used because it was available, and "looked" military, not for being an actual item of TOE.

Rather like the array of bits and pieces on the flatbed rail cars in the next to last scene.  Pretty sure there is a pair of PAK 40s loaded out, IIRC.

Yeah I noticed that too, it looks as if there 37mm German AT guns, but the Russians also had a variant that looked like that. Remember the russians gave the syrians stuGs and Panzer IV's, so they could of had left overs from the war

The stuff that the Soviets would sell to client states in proxy wars of the 60's compared to what they would use in an all out war against their prime enemy in the 80's are two different things. Yes the M42 Duster and other 50's/60's vintage gear could still be found in Guard units in the mid 80's. But lets just say that the Soviets are gonna re-position their fist line equipment from Central Europe, T-64/T-72/T-80 tank units, to their invading armies at the Bering strait and Mexico/Central America. Any captured WWII hardware will be way down on the list of resupply in effectiveness.

Thats true StikPusher, then again, the soviets have so much armor that they go park it out in forests unguarded. Im starting to get a diorama teeming up in my head

Would love to see a dio like this come together. I've always wanted to do the same kind of thing. Except from the "American Insurgent" perspective. Like a burned out T-90 and an F-150 technical on a street corner with a .50 cal mounted in the bed. A few figures with M4s, AKs, plaid shirts and old OD/Woodland surplus stuff mixed in with the SOF guys in plastic helmets and Multicam plate carriers- the few remaining Green Berets leading the group trying to teach and train local military aged American citizens how to fight the occupiers before their underground resistance is totally wiped out.

I got my hands on a MIG Hilux when the American distributor sadly closed down, so I might get around to something similar one day...

The off screen tank battle in 1/35 sounds great though.

im still considering doing it, I think  I would get the zvezda soviet troops, I think its there mountain/ spetznaz kit, those would be the defenders, and maybe have them dug in on the outskirts of the town, or hae like a building there using as an anchor point, linked with a trench from a shot up street. hmmm so many possibilities, im open to suggestions and ideas

you know, I just remembered the scene at night where the helicopters are staffing the town and the zsu drives up, would the zsu have been airlifted?