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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:23 PM

 SteveM wrote:
 HeavyArty wrote:


Hmm, I don't see it and I think it is B.S.



Well, thanks for calling my opinion B.S.


 

Sorry, that didn't come out like it was supposed to.  I had just come in from a cold night on the firing point when I wrote that.  I just disagree with you, that is all.  We both have opinions and they are equally as valid.  They just differ slightly.

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Posted by SteveM on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:56 AM
 HeavyArty wrote:


Hmm, I don't see it and I think it is B.S.



Well, thanks for calling my opinion B.S.


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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:30 AM

 Tankluver wrote:
You have a point there. But hes only 13 or so and Is use to writing on AIM I was the same way when I first joined.

Exactly, and not an excuse.  You have proven that you can write in full sentences and somewhat correctly.  I'm sure he can as well.

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Posted by Tankluver on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:06 AM
You have a point there. But hes only 13 or so and Is use to writing on AIM I was the same way when I first joined.
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Posted by subfixer on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:48 AM
Touche'

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:11 AM
 Tankluver wrote:
Hey ypu guys I thought we were supposed to be helping HC with making snow not critisizing his writing. Come on open up another forum to do that.
...you can't help those you can't understand...
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Posted by Tankluver on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:49 AM
Hey ypu guys I thought we were supposed to be helping HC with making snow not critisizing his writing. Come on open up another forum to do that.
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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:07 AM

...my issue is that there's a double standard applied here, on this forum. Not by everyone, but by you, Gino. There are armor builders who are outstanding at what they do, yet they provide one long run-on sentence to describe their build. I mean, a paragraph's worth of sentence. I'm not gonna throw anyone under the bus, but you probably know the ones I'm talking about. I've never seen you scold them for their writing style. Yet when this new, younger guy with unpolished modeling skills, wants to join in and throw down his thoughts- with a writing style ( lack of punctuation, capitals, so on ) no different than the aforementioned, seasoned modelers...

Hmm, I don't see it and I think it is B.S. I can't and won't police every post here, not my job. I do usually say something to anyone (when I see it) who is blatantly atrocious in their writing skills (regardless of their age, skill level, or who they are) and I will continue to do so. You can continue to defend them as much as you like as well.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:50 AM
 subfixer wrote:
Now, that is good to know. Asbestos in baby powder, what will they think of next?
LOL...if the Chinese make it, maybe lead?
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Posted by SteveM on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 5:37 AM
 HeavyArty wrote:

No one is asking anyone to be perfect.  Is it too much to ask that someone writes an easily readable post so others can understand it and reply?  I don't think so. 

No, I don't think so either. But my issue is that there's a double standard applied here, on this forum. Not by everyone, but by you, Gino. There are armor builders who are outstanding at what they do, yet they provide one long run-on sentence to describe their build. I mean, a paragraph's worth of sentence. I'm not gonna throw anyone under the bus, but you probably know the ones I'm talking about. I've never seen you scold them for their writing style. Yet when this new, younger guy with unpolished modeling skills, wants to join in and throw down his thoughts- with a writing style ( lack of punctuation, capitals, so on ) no different than the aforementioned, seasoned modelers- he gets chastized by you and outright made fun of by Manstein. It doesn't sit well with me. In my humble opinion (Smile [:)]), tolerance should sit much higher on the etiquette chain than proper grammar.

Ok, bad grammar is your pet peeve, and you will call people out on it. Your prerogative, that's fine. I'm not a fan of it, either. Double standards are my pet peeve. I think this is a classic example of one, and that's why I chimed in when I did.

 

**EDIT** I am an email writer by profession (you might not know it by my bad spelling); you wouldn't believe the syntax structures that I have to decipher all day long. I want to tear my eyes out. Who taught these people?!! I DO understand where you're coming from. But this forum isn't work, and it isn't school- I just wish we could all relax our inner 'english teacher' and just groove, baby!

 

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Posted by IanIsBored2000 on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:58 PM
For what it's worth, I'll give another vote for the woodlands scenics stuff.   Also depends on what kind of snow you're depicting.  For example, I once saw a dio that was depicting hard packed wind blown snow drifts, and the guy used spackle or something, because the smooth texture better fitted the snow he was modelling.
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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:34 PM

one problem today is that people are so busy correcting other's faults they forget about their own...wish I was perfect...

No one is talking about perfection...seems they are talking about writing in a way that is understandable...I guess that is too much to ask these days in the PC world we live in...

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No one is asking anyone to be perfect.  Is it too much to ask that someone writes an easily readable post so others can understand it and reply?  I don't think so. 

Also, why is it when anyone gives anything other than "That's great," "Wow," "Coombiah," "Lets do a group hug" on this site everyone gets all offended and starts defending everyone else?  In the real world, people disagree all the time and still get along just fine (just ask my wife Big Smile [:D]).  So can we.

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Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 6:22 PM
Now, that is good to know. Asbestos in baby powder, what will they think of next?

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Posted by telsono on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:42 PM

If you use talcum powder, make sure its pure talc. Many baby powder formulations have added corn starch to varying degrees because of the natural occurence of asbestos in Talc.

Something I picked up from watching CSI! Verified it on Google.

Mike T.

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Posted by SteveM on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:59 PM

Oh, yeah... hey Hellcat- nice tank. Stay away from baking soda / powder. Bugs eat it. Use talcum powder or microballons.

Sheesh, Doog's been gone for less than a week and we're already at each other's throats. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:59 PM
 IYAAYAS wrote:
one problem today is that people are so busy correcting other's faults they forget about their own...wish I was perfect...
No one is talking about perfection...seems they are talking about writing in a way that is understandable...I guess that is too much to ask these days in the PC world we live in...
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Posted by SteveM on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:57 PM

Wow, what was this thread about again?

 

 

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Posted by IYAAYAS on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:33 PM
one problem today is that people are so busy correcting other's faults they forget about their own...wish I was perfect...
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Posted by telsono on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:47 PM

One problem today is that so many people are dependent upon "Spell Check" and never use a dictionary. The word may be spelled correctly, but its still the wrong word in the wrong place and doesn't make sense. I keep a dictionary on my desk at work and will use it before "spell check".

Part of my job is to give techical training to government cooperators. Some of them are not native English speakers so I may be a little more patient with them for the incorrect grammar I see. That goes also for those writers who fit that pattern in the forums here. My wife also fits into that category. But, I'll say that some of the college students today just can't write!

Ask some of the kids today what a Thesarus is and they'll probably reply that it is a mythical beast! Although, they may even refer to it by a movie it was supposedly in.

Mike T.

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:38 PM

Sooo...Whad du U Guys tink bout makin snowy stuff from that bacon soder stuff ??? Big Smile [:D]

Sorry, I was overcome by my evil side.

Regards,  Rick

 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:18 PM

I agree with Manny on this one.  On a forum where the written word is how communication is achieved, one should be able to express themselves in a coherent manner.  If one can not, then maybe they shouldn't be here.  I get on my 12 yr-old daughter's case about the same thing all the time.  When emailing or writing notes, she uses all lower case, no punctuation, B.S. abbreviations, etc.  It drives me crazy.  Maybe I'm just getting too old, but if you are going to write something, do so in a manner that can be read and understood by all, not just kids who refuse to follow proper grammar, punctuation, etc. because they are too lazy. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:16 PM
 telsono wrote:

English can be quite confusing to those who are not native speakers and even to those who are native speakers. On one hand you have the verb feel which has the past tense felt. You would think that the verb spell would follow the same rules, instead the rules change it has the similiar sounding "spelled". Ending "ed"'s and "t"'s if slurred can sound similar. My youngest son has a speech therapy issue - "dialect" and has some of these problems.

Old English does allow the use of "spelt" for the past and past part of spell. The rule was changed over time for American English. G. B. Shaw was right, that "the Americans and British are two peoples separated by a common language".

Spelt can also be a split piece of wood (Germanic origin) or more commonly an ancient type of wheat (Triticum spelta) that is still grown today.

Mike T.

...ahhhh, so he was referring to wheat...now it makes cents to me...when I was in school we learned English, not "Old English"...
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Posted by telsono on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:09 PM

English can be quite confusing to those who are not native speakers and even to those who are native speakers. On one hand you have the verb feel which has the past tense felt. You would think that the verb spell would follow the same rules, instead the rules change it has the similiar sounding "spelled". Ending "ed"'s and "t"'s if slurred can sound similar. My youngest son has a speech therapy issue - "dialect" and has some of these problems.

Old English does allow the use of "spelt" for the past and past part of spell. The rule was changed over time for American English. G. B. Shaw was right, that "the Americans and British are two peoples separated by a common language".

Spelt can also be a split piece of wood (Germanic origin) or more commonly an ancient type of wheat (Triticum spelta) that is still grown today.

Mike T.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:24 AM

...wow, you could have spent that time building on a model...

...still not taking a step back...in fact, I am taking two steps forward and stating that if you cannot communicate effectively on the Forum, you should get off of it...

...let's see what gets posted now; should be very uninteresting...

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Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:50 AM

Boomer is correct in his spelling, (at least Downunder or in Old Blighty);

From the Cambridge online dictionary:

spell (FORM WORDS)   Show phonetics
verb [I or T] spelled or UK AND AUSTRALIAN ENGLISH ALSO spelt, spelled or UK AND AUSTRALIAN ENGLISH ALSO spelt
to form a word or words with the letters in the correct order:
"How do you spell 'receive'?" "R E C E I V E".
Shakespeare did not always spell his own name the same way.
Our address is 1520 Main Street, Albuquerque - shall I spell that (out) (= say in the correct order the letters that form the word) for you?
I think it's important that children should be taught to spell (= how to form words with the letters in the correct order).

speller   Show phonetics
noun
good/bad speller someone who is good/bad at spelling

spelling   Show phonetics
noun
1 [U] forming words with the correct letters in the correct order, or the ability to do this:
He's hopeless at spelling.
My computer has a program which corrects my spelling.
Your essay is full of spelling mistakes/errors.

2 [C] the way a particular word is spelt:
This dictionary includes both British and American spellings of words

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:38 AM
 Boomerang wrote:

  You know what really is funny........you have all spelt the word grammar wrong! It is with an a, not an e......Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

  Maybe we should step back, just a little bit....Whistling [:-^]

  Boomer...

LOL...not stepping back from anything, but thanks for the offer...this isn't a case of nit-picking a misspelling, but of clarity of communication...the suggestion was made that if you want good answers you should take a little more time to express yourself so others can understand and give you the feedback you seek...if this is too much to ask then we have gone way overboard on the PC front...and by the way, is "spelt" even a word; shouldn't it be: "spelled"?...LOL...  
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Posted by Boomerang on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:57 AM

  You know what really is funny........you have all spelt the word grammar wrong! It is with an a, not an e......Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

  Maybe we should step back, just a little bit....Whistling [:-^]

  Boomer...

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 25, 2007 5:28 PM
 subfixer wrote:
Manny, I know that you know that I know what "IMO" means. (whew!) I'm just making an observation on how abbreviating things can get out of hand. I didn't mean to imply that you had any bad habits, if you took it that way, I humbly apologize, it wasn't my intention. But I have seen some of these abbreviations that, if they were decyphered, would be deemed obscene and I feel that these should be avoided.
No harm, no foul...you are an okay guy in my book!
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Posted by subfixer on Sunday, November 25, 2007 2:05 PM
Manny, I know that you know that I know what "IMO" means. (whew!) I'm just making an observation on how abbreviating things can get out of hand. I didn't mean to imply that you had any bad habits, if you took it that way, I humbly apologize, it wasn't my intention. But I have seen some of these abbreviations that, if they were decyphered, would be deemed obscene and I feel that these should be avoided.

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Posted by 9 Toe Tanker on Sunday, November 25, 2007 1:58 PM

IIRC = If I recall...

I'm actually sorry for making light of the conversation earlier...I just thought it was funny at the time.

To tell the truth...I wish I was able to build models to the level of Hellcat man when I was his age and had the net forums to gain knowledge and info from all of you guys.

PS...my grammer isn't very good either and this is coming from someone "Who c'aint evn talk good english rite"Big Smile [:D]

Best Regards Joe
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