MIG-17PF question

The 17 at the museum looks like a PF to me.  The canopy is pretty poor on it, but perhaps it can be opened.  It was a Czech built airrplane I am pretty sure.  I have a few photos on my website here, all exterior:

http://yolo.net/~jeaton/century/MiG/17/17.htm 

John, thanks for the post and pics. I also have a ton of shots I took just a couple of months ago. I find it strange that all the web sites still say info on how we aquired the 17 and how it got here is still classified.I`m really interested in pit shots as I explained, I need proof of the radar position on IP and the "cone" they looked through.I have seen one on the web, But havent been able to re-find it. And there is not much info on Vietnam 17PF`s. Such as markings, camo, and such. I have a Trump coming with some Eduard stuff, and being the detail nut I am, I need the info...........Harv

Harv, I have an Osprey book which has a color profile of a 17PF, all silver with the Bort number 4721.  There are also a view photos of dubious quality of PF's.  The narrative odf a kill made by 4721 is in the book.  I'll try to get them scanned tomorrow.  No PF cockpits but there is a good photo of a MiG-17 cockpit simulator.  I'll be at the museum on Tuesday and see if there is any means of getting cockpit photos.

According to my reference library sources, teh 17PF only saw limited use with the NVPAF. I have some photos of them in overall NMF and  a few in an overall "air superiority gray". Markings were very basic with only national insignia, and bort numbers. I can get you some specific ones if you would like.

  WOW, thanks to both of you! Looking forward to the info. John, I hope to meet up with you one of these days. Are you going to the RENO model show this year??.........Harv

...Harv (dirtball),

seems you're in good hands already!

 

  Yes I am! But another set of hands wouldn`t hurt. How ya doin? Going to Reno next month?..........Harv

dirtball wrote:

Yes I am! But another set of hands wouldn`t hurt. How ya doin? Going to Reno next month?..........Harv

I pity the fool... that doesn't GO TO RENO FOR THE AIR RACES!

Uhh... that's an "AFFIRMATIVE" on that, Harv!

acualy I was talking about the model show the weekend before. Chance to get close up shots of all the racers too!!.........Harv

Harv:

Here are a few images that will be helpful:

 

 

 

  John, sorry for being late. Thanks so much for the info. Yes it does help. Still doing my own searching, but nothing new, but I`ll keep trying.........Harv

Harv, I found out today that most of the MiG-17PF cockpit is incomplete, so pictures will not be too helpful.  Sorry.  The cutaway drawing does show the radar hood installed in the cockpit area.

John, sounds pritty tipical for a static display, I`m sorry to say. But I do thank you for the efort. I did re-find the pic I was telling you about. The only one I could find on the net. So I thought I`d share it with you.......Harv

 

Thanks, Harv.

This info comes from two books, both by Istvan Toperczer: "MiG-17 and MiG-19 units of the Vietnam War", and "Air War Over North Viet Nam".

MiG-17PFs were assigned Bort numbers 4720 thru 4729. In photos 4726 appears to be A.S.Gray while 4721 may be in either NMF or AS Gray. A poor quality night photo shows another PF with a bort number ending in 452. This MiG also appears to be gray.

dirtball wrote:

John, sounds pritty tipical for a static display, I`m sorry to say. But I do thank you for the efort. I did re-find the pic I was telling you about. The only one I could find on the net. So I thought I`d share it with you.......Harv

Great photograph! Dang those Ruskies are messy gents! HAAA!

But seriously, check out how the pilot would tilt his head like biting a taco to look into the radar shroud. Incredible.