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Italeri 1/48 C-130H Hercules

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    February 2003
  • From: Back home in Blanchard
Posted by wroper11 on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 7:00 AM
Hey Gary,
I am at Will Rogers ANG base here in Oklahoma City, OK. Home of the 137th Airlift wing. 185th Airlift Sq.Cowboy [C):-)]

Any way just give me specifics like wing root section or landing gear or what ever. I am not a crew dog so I don't know exactly what you need. However I talked to the super of the sheet metal shop about a month ago and told him I was getting ready to do a bird and he said just let him know what I needed.

So give me specifics and if it ain't classified I will try to scrape it up for you.

Wroper
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 5:57 AM
Glad to be of service, Gary! I had a very prolific modeling youth. Big on quantity, short on quality! The good thing about that is that I did get a lot of valuable experience with a wide variety of kits from all genres. Now I'm lucky if I finish three or four kits a year!! Sure do buy plenty, though...Big Smile [:D]

Speakin' o' which, I found the Spectre kit for 8,000 yen ($72 USD) at one of my LHSs yesterday. Seems kinda steep, but non-Japanese stuff is always high here. I'm not so interested in the Spectre version, but it would be nice to try a big H again!

You Herc specialists can tell me: Is it the C-130J that has the cool six-bladed swooshy props? I'd love to build that version! Anybody make one?
~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:26 PM
Hey, GREAT advice, guys!! That's the info I was looking for - the problems you had assembling this behemoth.

oortiz10, thanks for the heads-up about hte wing spars. I'll definitely watch out for that.

engstrome, I appreciate the advice on the fuselage details. I did kinda figure that it would need a LOT of nose weight, though. Something that big just HAD to!!

wroper11, THANKS FOR THE OFFER!!!! If there are any engineering drawings that you could get, I would GLADLY pay for your efforts. My dad was a crew chief on the H model back in the mid-70's with the Tennessee ANG in Memphis, but he didn't save any of the old manuals or pictures that he used to have. Doesn't remember what he did with them. Oh well. By the way, which C-130 base are you at?

J-Hulk: Is there ANY model that you HAVEN"T built??? heeheeheeheehee!! It seems that you've built just about everything. I do appreciate the feedback you've given me over the past few months, though. Especially the M41 Walker Bulldog advice. I still haven't started on it yet, but I plan on it just after the first of the year.

Thanks for the advice, guys!! Semper Fi!!
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  • From: Between LA and OC, SoCal
Posted by oortiz10 on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 3:11 PM
Gary,
I've built both the H and Spectre versions. The former had a problem with the fuselage/wing joint. The kit provides a pair of spars for support, but the spars I had in my H kit were both warped and, on comparison to the Spectre spars, a bit flimsy. Double check yours. You may need to reinforce the kit spars or maybe manufacture your own. Regardless, both kits built up to great looking Hercs.
-O

-It's Omar, but they call me "O".

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    February 2003
  • From: Back home in Blanchard
Posted by wroper11 on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 6:47 AM

Too funny J-HULK!!! LMAOBig Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 1:53 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wroper11

Hey J-hulk did you put that container on a 463L pallet? Was there a non metallic material between the container and the pallet? Was it no more than 88 inches(scale of course) high. Is the container properly marked for air transport ( i.e. cubic dimensions, weight, any Hazmat)? And is it secured properly with cargo netting? Just all the questions that need answered to be of proper detail!Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

Wroper


Absolutely, Wroper! What kind of a hack modeler do you think I am??Wink [;)]Big Smile [:D]

Weeeelll, to be honest, it was just a simple box made of corrugated plastic sheet, painted olive drab, and adorned with some spare "US ARMY" decals. I suppose the big piece I used for the base of it could be mistaken for a pallet (perhaps even a 463L pallet!), and I'm almost certain there was non-metallic material between the pallet and the container. Ah, and the crew hadn't secured the cargo netting yet! Yup, that's it!Wink [;)]
~Brian
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    September 2003
  • From: McConnell AFB, KS
Posted by engstrome on Monday, November 17, 2003 10:33 PM
I built an AC-130-A same kit. The engine nacelles were a pain and the joint between the front and rear fuselage halves bears considerable care. I had to use a bunch of CA to make mine correct. A really tough thing to get right with this kit is to get all six wheels (2 nose and 4 mains) to sit on the same plane, so that you do not have daylight showing between the surface and the bottom of the wheels. Also making sure that the wings are level. I hade to mess with the length of the nose gear strut to get mine to sit properly. And don't skimp on the nose weight. That big tall empennage (tail) is both heavy and long. I seem to remember that I had to stuff extra weight into the nose to make it right.
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  • From: Back home in Blanchard
Posted by wroper11 on Monday, November 17, 2003 10:13 PM
Hey J-hulk did you put that container on a 463L pallet? Was there a non metallic material between the container and the pallet? Was it no more than 88 inches(scale of course) high. Is the container properly marked for air transport ( i.e. cubic dimensions, weight, any Hazmat)? And is it secured properly with cargo netting? Just all the questions that need answered to be of proper detail!Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

Hey Gary, I work at a 130 base if you need any tech questions answered I can talk to all the maintenance shops, Pilots, Navigators, crew chiefs, etc.

Wroper
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 17, 2003 6:10 PM
It does fit together nice. Built mine a long time ago as well; but I broke the green house windows for the flight deck (how, I don't remember) -regardless I built another one from scratch. That was more work then the entire plane! But it turned out pretty nice; definitly need some space to display it though.
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Sunday, November 16, 2003 11:30 PM
Yup, the interior lights sure do help you see all the work you put into the interior!
I slapped a quick cargo container together out of scrap plastic to act as a battery case and switch. When I wanted to light 'er up, I just slid the container out and turned on the switch. A more clever modeler could probably find a less cumbersome way of storing a battery and turning the lights on, but that's what I did.
~Brian
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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 16, 2003 7:36 PM
Thanks for the replies, guys. I never thought about putting lights in the interior, but it sounds like a great idea. Maybe I'll use them for the formation lights also. The kit is big enough to do just about anything within reason. Maybe an operable loading ramp, motors for the props, retractable landing gear............................ Man, am I getting carried away!! I've never attempted anything fancier than out-of-the-box, except for some photo-etch items occasionally. But, the interior lights do sound pretty good. Again, thanks for all of the replies!! Semper Fi!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 16, 2003 6:33 PM
LHS has some Fat Albert Decals.....not sure as to the scale or who makes em.....but Ill take a look next time Im in and let ya know who makes em
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  • From: NE Georgia
Posted by Keyworth on Sunday, November 16, 2003 6:21 PM
It's a big sucker, but it goes together fairly well.
"There's no problem that can't be solved with a suitable application of high explosives"
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 16, 2003 11:40 AM
Flightpath of England
You need set the PE set Flightpath FHP48106
costs about 35 sterling almost 50$
try www.hannants.co.uk
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Sunday, November 16, 2003 9:14 AM
Hi, Gary!
I built that kit a looooong time ago, but to the best of my recollection it went together like a charm. The cockpit and rear cargo area, too. No problems at all. I even put little "grain of wheat" bulbs in there so I could see all the detail once it was all closed up!

I t sure is a big one, eh? Have fun with it, and buy a lot of paint!Wink [;)]
~Brian
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    November 2005
Italeri 1/48 C-130H Hercules
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 16, 2003 2:14 AM
Has anyone built the Italeri 1/48 C-130H Hercules? I bought the kit during a half-price sale from Model Expo for $40, and was AMAZED at how big this kit is! Are there any fit problems that I should know about? Are there any aftermarket kits and/or accessories for it? I would really love to build this as "Fat Albert" (I know, I know, "Fat Albert" wasn't an H model, but who cares?), so are there any 1/48 decals for that bird out there anywhere?Banged Head [banghead]
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