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1/48 B-17 Group Build...ALL INVITED TO JOIN!

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  • From: Green Bay, WI
Posted by redraider56 on Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:37 PM

Oh....I found a forum about that on another website, and it wasn't on decals though, just insignias....im not sure if theres one on decals

 

http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=33924&start=0

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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Posted by redraider56 on Friday, April 16, 2010 12:28 PM

Ugh, doing all this research, looking at other peoples builds and seeing these pictures I just found of my bird makes me want to get going on the build again, but I have to wait another month.  This project has been going on 3 years now and this forum was the kick in the pants I needed to get this done.

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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Posted by B17Pilot on Friday, April 16, 2010 12:31 PM

Don't feel too bad, mine took a little over two and a half years to finish.

  

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Posted by redraider56 on Friday, April 16, 2010 3:34 PM

Dang I keep trying to upload a wartime photo of my plane but it won't work....it showed an engine in detail with some sort of device on top of the crankcase.  It was also unsual in the fact that it had almost no paint chipping even though it had flown 47 missions at the time the picture was taken

 

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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Posted by krow113 on Friday, April 16, 2010 4:41 PM

If the device is on the front of the engine it may be the prop governer.

Thank you ,Krow113

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, April 16, 2010 5:36 PM

redraider56

Dang I keep trying to upload a wartime photo of my plane but it won't work....it showed an engine in detail with some sort of device on top of the crankcase.  It was also unsual in the fact that it had almost no paint chipping even though it had flown 47 missions at the time the picture was taken

 

If you're trying to upload directly from your harddrive?  Can't do it... You need to upload it to a photo-hosting site like Photo-Bucket first..

 

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Posted by redraider56 on Friday, April 16, 2010 5:47 PM

Thanks Hans, here it is......and yea, I think it is the prop governor, and paragon makes a set with some wing intakes, but I'm just gonna make mine out of some scrap plastic.   See the full size image to see the detail

MOW2-2.jpg picture by redraider5600

MOW2.jpg picture by redraider5600

manowar2.jpg picture by redraider5600

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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Posted by redraider56 on Friday, April 16, 2010 6:32 PM

Prop governors don't look too hard to scratch build and wire

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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Posted by krow113 on Friday, April 16, 2010 8:00 PM

I actually have a ton of stuff on this plane but havent got a clear pic of the pg's I finaly bought the 1/12 Wright Cyclone monogram kit ,but its pg is more internal than external,engine development was moving at aa very accelerated pace by the end of WW2 .I think a number of pg's were used .Wikipedia is a good source if you feeed in Wright Cyclone

Thank you ,Krow113

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Posted by redraider56 on Friday, April 16, 2010 8:25 PM

I had never really noticed the PGs especially on builds, but these pics show they are quite noticeable, so I have to make them if I wanna be accurate

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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Posted by Cobra 427 on Friday, April 16, 2010 8:55 PM

I know that I don't really have anything to add here at this time, I just wanted to say, thank you for sharing this with us. This is really wonderful, and it brings back memories of when I used to build these, and paint them with my brother.  I have fond memories of a few of these bombers personally, and if I can help in any way, I do have some parts that you can have if you need them. I also have old guitar strings (electric) from my guitars that I save from time to time. I use these for hoses, and conduits in airplanes, and sci-fi builds. I don't have a lot of airplanes anymore, but have one that I built a while ago that I'll share, but I'm not  going to walk on this thread. I usually build civilan, and sci-fi for other people, but I'll build planes again when I get the opportunity to.  Thank you once again for posting this, even if I didn't get the chance to jump on board when this thread was new. 

                                                     ~ Cobra Chris

Maybe a picture of a squirrel playing a harmonica will make you feel better?

 

 

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Posted by redraider56 on Friday, April 16, 2010 9:26 PM

Not that I necessarily need any more parts, but just for the heck of it, what parts do you have?

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:43 AM

Y'all may have some use for this site:

http://www.enginehistory.org/

 

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Posted by redraider56 on Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:00 AM

I got another weird question.  Were the flash tubes on the chin turret guns factory applied or field applied?  I've got pictures of my plane with and without flash tubes (look at the 1st and 3rd pictures above), which means they were added sometime between the 1st and 47th mission, but seeing as they weren't present on the picture of the plane just prior to the first mission I'm thinking they were field applied.  I've got regular barrels and flash tubed barrels and it probably doesn't matter which ones I use but I just thought I'd ask anyways

Oh, and does anyone know the part number on the chin turret? I need to order a new one from Revell

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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Posted by krow113 on Saturday, April 17, 2010 10:12 PM

The flash suppressor question has the same answer as the decal question ,its your build so.............

My visB-17 is Kit  # 5614, chin turret part # is 6 , top plate is part # 8 , guns are #45 -a  3 part assy.

Thank you ,Krow113

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Posted by redraider56 on Saturday, April 17, 2010 10:47 PM

I just need the turret....i got the guns and top plate....hopefully its the same number as in the G kit #5600

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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Posted by redraider56 on Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:08 PM

Ok it is the same part number....I found a downloadable instruction sheet from revell.com.  Man I can't wait to start work again

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:11 AM

redraider56

I got another weird question.  Were the flash tubes on the chin turret guns factory applied or field applied?  I've got pictures of my plane with and without flash tubes (look at the 1st and 3rd pictures above), which means they were added sometime between the 1st and 47th mission, but seeing as they weren't present on the picture of the plane just prior to the first mission I'm thinking they were field applied.  I've got regular barrels and flash tubed barrels and it probably doesn't matter which ones I use but I just thought I'd ask anyways

Oh, and does anyone know the part number on the chin turret? I need to order a new one from Revell

That was a good question and I decided to check..

According to my main B-17 reference (my uncle Stan, ex-SSG & B-17 tail gunner- 46 missions) blast (not flash) tubes, sights, ammo feed chutes, and various other items for the aircraft were packed with the rest of the BII (Basic Issue Items) and installed at group-maintenence level after testing...  Then after they were ferried to the particular command, squadron armorers, along with the gunners, made the call on whether the blast tubes stayed installed or not.  The barrels of the turret guns were wrapped in a kind of heavy waxed paper and secured with tape at the factory for ferrying...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:13 AM

redraider56

I just need the turret....i got the guns and top plate....hopefully its the same number as in the G kit #5600

I got a B-17G chin turret you can have.. PM me with your particulars if you want it..

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Posted by redraider56 on Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:49 PM

Thanks again Hans, that's pretty interesting.  I love learning all this new stuff about forts

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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Posted by redraider56 on Sunday, April 18, 2010 1:19 PM

Well, I think I'll take you up on that offer.  PM inbound

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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Posted by redraider56 on Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:16 PM

Oh, and would anybody happen to have an extra engine or two?  Just thought I'd check before ordering from revell

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:23 PM

Man you should've asked like three weeks ago, I would've had three of 'em.  I would've had the fourth one, as I used Aires engines on my 17, but I had to cut the fourth one for measuring purposes.  Threw them out with the box. Oops

  

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Posted by redraider56 on Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:33 PM

No biggy pilot, I can just get some from revell

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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  • From: Green Bay, WI
Posted by redraider56 on Sunday, April 18, 2010 11:49 PM

Just ordered some more figures today which puts my figure count at 14  for my diorama.  It also brings my crew member count to a perfect 10.  Lets see, I'm  using..... 6 revell figures (from a couple different kits), 5 Verlinden figures from 2 different kits, and now the 3 CMK figures I ordered today.   Looks like I have ALOT of detail painting in my futureTongue Tied  Lucky for me though, I love painting figures

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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Posted by krow113 on Monday, April 19, 2010 1:20 AM

14 ! is that all?         haha keep goin',redraider!!      Heres what 45-50 looks like.....p11.jpg picture by krow113

Thank you ,Krow113

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, April 19, 2010 7:14 AM

redraider56

Oh, and would anybody happen to have an extra engine or two?  Just thought I'd check before ordering from revell

I'll toss the engines in wit' the chin turret...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, April 19, 2010 7:16 AM

Threw them out with the box. 

A cardinal sin, throwing parts out, you know....

Karma will have you at some point in the future saying, "Man, a Monogram B-17 engine would work GREAT here..."

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Posted by redraider56 on Monday, April 19, 2010 9:06 AM

Hans, you are a saint!  That would be great if you could throw them in there too.....if you don't need them for anything

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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  • From: Green Bay, WI
Posted by redraider56 on Monday, April 19, 2010 9:08 AM

Krow....um yeah, I dont have THAT much time lol.  Nice find on the Teknics bomber crew.  I gave up looking for that awhile ago. 

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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