Revells new B-17 WIP Finished

VanceCrozier

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Hmmmm...Vance must be helping Fermis out on this one...

 

Why, has he started building realllllly slowwwwwllllyyyy???? I'll send in my inspectors!

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 HAHA, I've been a bit mad at it, also had to get an article together and submitted to another new magazine, along with being another pair of eyes in the proofread for the first issue. All this in combination with S.A.D., that always kicks in about this time of year, has had me emotional like a girl....I just need a good cry

It's not like a brand new "state of the art" kit. Soft, thick plastic, very 70s-ish. Not a rave review from this guy!!! I have been busy with it though. I'll update this evening.

fermis

 

It's not like a brand new "state of the art" kit. Soft, thick plastic, very 70s-ish.

 

 

LMOA, I had the exact same thought!

 A little more done.

Finished up the wings. A sad note here. The clear parts for the landing lights are solid with a beautiful bubble smack dab in the middle of em. There is a light molded into the wing, and another molded into the clear part , I just put a drop of silver in there and painted the rest grey.

I nice feature is that the glass in the nose is molded all together, so no pesky little windows with gaps all around.

I'm planning on having things openned up as much as possible. For the rear door, I thermo-formed over the kit part. This left the lines in the clear plastic making it easy to cut out and place the masks for the window. The kit window is poorly molded with a big dent in the center.

I did the same so the little door up front. They got the shape wrong for the molded in door, but that was taken care of when I carved it out.

For all you guys that have this kit on the way,  I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but....................

Maybe this one is a fluke, I'd expect to see some vac-form in the near future.

Will be back atchya later in the week with some interior work.

That canopy looks like a cleft lip....bummer.

Did your kit come w/ two canopy pieces?  I just checked the one I have and it has twp pieces (slightly different--2 options?) that don't seem to have any issues w/ them.  I couldn't quite make out what was defective in your pic---is it a short-shot?

fermis

For all you guys that have this kit on the way,  I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but....................

Maybe this one is a fluke, I'd expect to see some vac-form in the near future.

Will be back atchya later in the week with some interior work.

Hmm, I noticed a bit of wavy-ness to my clear pieces too, but not as bad as your pic is showing. Do you think a dip in Future can help clarify the plastic?

OWL

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...I couldn't quite make out what was defective in your pic---is it a short-shot?

You'll have to excuse Manny - everything looks a little blurry after a few bottles of 70-year old captured vodka...

That's true, but I am really digging how you are opening up all of the crew-entry hatches...

VanceCrozier

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...I couldn't quite make out what was defective in your pic---is it a short-shot?

 

You'll have to excuse Manny - everything looks a little blurry after a few bottles of 70-year old captured vodka...

and Cat-jerky...~

Looking good Fermis ~!

and that canopy looks wavy man.. groovy... or gravy...

p38jl

and Cat-jerky...~

 

It's not as good as it sounds, and a big problem is that it takes half a dozen just to get a little baggy of jerky. Better to just run a stick through one and put it over a fire...a little chewy, but not too bad, with some "Sweet Baby Rays" BBQ and Cholula!

Spent the day on the bomb bay, adding a bunch of wires and do-dads and some bombs! I cut up the door actuator arms to better match my refs and added sheet styrene behind the sidewalls to cover the wingroot void.

I only managed to fit 6 bombs in there, 4 are True Details 1/48 250lbs, perfec match for 1/72 500s.

I do have a ? now. All my color ref pics are of restored birds, that have rubber mats covering the floors. I know the floors were wood, but were they left just plain wood? painted? mats?

Sweet---is that wire bundling I see on the ceiling of the bomb-bay? Wow...

According to my limited knowledge of 17's, I understand that most of the wooden parts of these forts were left in a slightly stained plywood coloring, including the "furniture" that decked out the radio room, etc...(chart tables and such...)...that would also include the flooring in the fues...I believe a tan color would be close...

...but then again, I'm not a "fort" expert...

Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnsvfXWo_Uo&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTNPrc_PfIQ&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpUeCqhZ_hA&feature=player_detailpage

I wouldnt worry too much aboot the floor color,wood grain or painted olive drab would prolly do. Here is a cutaway that others found usefull on here:

fermis,

Shoo Shoo Shoo Baby at the USAF Museum (USAF policy on restoration is accurate authenticy) has rubber matts covering the floor panels in the radio compartment and aftwards. Of the authentic picture I could find from WWII were all b/w photos (5 pictures), show the floor panels were dark color that could be rubber. 

Owen   

This makes me wanna get in to 1/72...

orro

fermis,

Shoo Shoo Shoo Baby at the USAF Museum (USAF policy on restoration is accurate authenticy) has rubber matts covering the floor panels in the radio compartment and aftwards. Of the authentic picture I could find from WWII were all b/w photos (5 pictures), show the floor panels were dark color that could be rubber. 

Owen   

The bombay looks great. I've never thought about it but those 1/48 250lbs do look like a perfect match for the 500lbs.

Learn something new everyday.

Did 17's carry 1,000 pounders?

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Did 17's carry 1,000 pounders?

They could carry two.  How many times they actually did is another question, best bet is when they attacked sub pens.

Only two?---I thought they normally carried 4 to 6 k in bombs---was irt because of the sizes involved?  And I wonder if the bombs in this kit don't represent 500 and 1,000 pounders?

OOPS, I was thinking of the 2000lb bomb.  B-17s could carry 5  X 1000 lbs or 2 X 2000 lbs.  Typical load was between 4 - 6K, depending on range to target.  If they did carry 1000 lbs they could also carry smaller 250 and 500 to fill up the bombbay, but if 2000 lbs where carried that's it, those bombs where too big for any thing else in the bombbay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGdzdBpVOvQ&feature=player_detailpage

Manstein's revenge

orro:

fermis,

Shoo Shoo Shoo Baby at the USAF Museum (USAF policy on restoration is accurate authenticy) has rubber matts covering the floor panels in the radio compartment and aftwards. Of the authentic picture I could find from WWII were all b/w photos (5 pictures), show the floor panels were dark color that could be rubber. 

Owen   

 

I guess the rubber provided a non-slip property?

yah... it is kind hard to aim when you keep falling on your can.

Owen 

orro

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orro:

fermis,

Shoo Shoo Shoo Baby at the USAF Museum (USAF policy on restoration is accurate authenticy) has rubber matts covering the floor panels in the radio compartment and aftwards. Of the authentic picture I could find from WWII were all b/w photos (5 pictures), show the floor panels were dark color that could be rubber. 

Owen   

 

I guess the rubber provided a non-slip property?

 

yah... it is kind hard to aim when you keep falling on your can.

Owen 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGdzdBpVOvQ&feature=player_detailpage

Fermis I remember reading somewhere that the floors were plywood covered with an anitslip compound or paint on them a dark color but am not sure what it was. Maybe black like antislip on a wingwalk ?

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Yeah, I guess the blood and all made it a little slippery...

You would not beleave how much a cat bleeds...that why USAAF took they out of the flight meals.

Owen

orro

fermis,

Shoo Shoo Shoo Baby at the USAF Museum (USAF policy on restoration is accurate authenticy) has rubber matts covering the floor panels in the radio compartment and aftwards. Of the authentic picture I could find from WWII were all b/w photos (5 pictures), show the floor panels were dark color that could be rubber. 

Owen   

Take Shoo Shoo with a grain of salt. She wasn't restored by the USAF museum. Some other group did her restoration and she was flown to the museum. (I was there)

It probably also matters from what factory they came out of (Boeing, BO; Douglas, DL; Lockheed-Vega, VE), and what modification center they went through.

paintsniffer

orro:

fermis,

Shoo Shoo Shoo Baby at the USAF Museum (USAF policy on restoration is accurate authenticy) has rubber matts covering the floor panels in the radio compartment and aftwards. Of the authentic picture I could find from WWII were all b/w photos (5 pictures), show the floor panels were dark color that could be rubber. 

Owen   

 

Take Shoo Shoo with a grain of salt. She wasn't restored by the USAF museum. Some other group did her restoration and she was flown to the museum. (I was there)

Quite true Painsniffer, Shoo Shoo Baby was restored by the 512 MAW museum at Dover AFB and than was to flown the Wright-Pattersen after it was completed (AF Museum swapped for another G model). All aircraft at AF base's musuems are owned  by the AF Musuem (retains ownership) and are on loaned to an AF unit. So the restaration & maintenance standards of aircraft at base museums are directed from AF Musuem, if an AF unit that don't follow could have the aircraft given to another unit that will; by the direction from WP AFB.  So in this case I'm sure Shoo Shoo Baby was restored as accurately as possible to the time frame when it operated with the 8th AF during WWII.

cheers

Owen