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Going for broke! Revell 1/32 Arado 196 A3

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Going for broke! Revell 1/32 Arado 196 A3
Posted by Electric Blues on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:21 PM

Hey guys, this is an open invitation.

 

I’ll be building Revell’s Arado 196, that Devil Dawg suggested and will be placing progress photos here. I’m not very good at building airplanes yet (but have modeling experience) and will be making a serious, conscious, effort to build a contest quality model.

 

I can use all the help I can get and can think of no better place to receive it than here. So I’m asking you to criticize my work so I can learn as I go along and improve my work. No need to be mean spirited but I’m not asking you to sugar coat anything either.

 

Not only do I hope to learn myself, maybe this will help other budding airplane guys around here as well. If you all agree and accept my invitation, I’ll start with this project this evening.

 

Thanks!

Dan

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Posted by BaBill212 on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:27 PM

Sure thing Dan,,,,  I would bet you will get a lot of feedback.     Let er rip!

We're all here to help                   

You might want to change one word in your post though....  instead of criticize you might want to say critique...         criticize is a negative right off the bat.           Just a thought.....

Good luck with the build.............

 

 

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:39 PM

Excellent! I have this big floater in my stash and it looks phenomenal!

I also have to say...props to you for taking on a big project like this. I'll look forward to providing constructive critiques where I can!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by Electric Blues on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:35 PM

Thanks guys! I'll start in a while and probably have the first pics in a few days.

BaBill212

Sure thing Dan,,,,  I would bet you will get a lot of feedback.     Let er rip!

We're all here to help                   

You might want to change one word in your post though....  instead of criticize you might want to say critique...         criticize is a negative right off the bat.           Just a thought.....

Good luck with the build.............

 

 

Critique! Good idea.

See, it's started already. I just learned something new!

Yes

 

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Posted by dcaponeII on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:32 PM

Hurry with the photos. Many of us are just itching to critique!!

 

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Posted by BaBill212 on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:51 PM

Dan,,     I thought the same thing when I posted,,,         no offense of course

 

Will be looking for your updates..................

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by Electric Blues on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:36 PM

Here we go...

 Big box with 192 parts. Skill level 5, which in Revell speak means... "No Dan, this one isn't for you!"

Here's something I like to do when starting a build. I give my work space a quick clean, cut out the box art and place it under the glass I build on. It keeps me inspired during the build.

Here's the box contents. The only after market parts I'll be using are seat belts by Edwards. These say they are for Trumpeters Arado 196 A3 but I hope being the same scale and airplane, they'll work for my Revell.

 Just looking the kit and instructions over right now and will probably start on it tomorrow. I'll keep you posted every two or three days with progress reports.

Dan

 

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Posted by kermit on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:55 PM

Dan,

An ambitious and healthy challenge for you! I can tell like Doogs already did that the kit itself is an excellent choice. Not a two evenings and youre done kind of deal but accurate and well detailed nevertheless. The trumpy belts should sork out fine.

Made a start on her myself for Doogs, weathering GB...had to break off but its still sitting there looking at meSmile

Using alot of revell paints here so if you need help converting paintnumbers just give me a yellYes

Richard

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Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:07 PM

Electric Blues

The only after market parts I'll be using are seat belts by Edwards. These say they are for Trumpeters Arado 196 A3 but I hope being the same scale and airplane, they'll work for my Revell.

Seat belts are seat belts. They should work just fine. 

Weird thing though is that Trumpeter doesn't make a 1/32 Ar 196, unless my memory and Google totally fail me. They do make 1/350 and 1/700 kits, but if they're making seatbelts for those, my mind reels!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by Electric Blues on Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:34 AM

DoogsATX

 Electric Blues:

The only after market parts I'll be using are seat belts by Edwards. These say they are for Trumpeters Arado 196 A3 but I hope being the same scale and airplane, they'll work for my Revell.

 

Seat belts are seat belts. They should work just fine. 

Weird thing though is that Trumpeter doesn't make a 1/32 Ar 196, unless my memory and Google totally fail me. They do make 1/350 and 1/700 kits, but if they're making seatbelts for those, my mind reels!

 

Agree. I've never heard of a Trumpeter Arado in 1/32. I checked my records and my order was the seat belts for the Revell Arado but this is what I received. Hadn't even really noticed until I took the photos last night.

 

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Posted by kermit on Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:13 AM

Electric Blues

Agree. I've never heard of a Trumpeter Arado in 1/32. I checked my records and my order was the seat belts for the Revell Arado but this is what I received. Hadn't even really noticed until I took the photos last night.

 

Maybe the manufacturer was so impressed with the kit they thought that it couldn't be revell....Whistling. The only other 1/32 arado i know of is a really expensive resin job, not by trumpy.

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:19 AM

My theory is they probably have some sort of drop down system in whatever database they use to manage products, and somebody probably accidentally selected Trumpeter instead of Revell.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by Devil Dawg on Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:41 PM

Awww, man.... I'm touched...... Embarrassed . I've never had anyone actually take my advice before about a kit to build. Cool!!  Propeller Yeah

I hope that it turns out great for you. I will definitely be following this build, and will give you any feedback that I can. Good Luck, Electric!!  Yes  Beer

 

Devil Dawg

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Posted by dcaponeII on Thursday, October 13, 2011 6:54 PM

My only critique thus far would be to suggest that you leave a bit more space on the glass for building.  Looks like the parts take up too much room.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:35 PM

Ill be watching this with interest. Im thinking about getting this kit myself. May have to dispose of a few of my older crappier kits first though lol. Or find somewhere else to display them.

Again watching with interest.

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Posted by BaBill212 on Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:49 PM

One of my favorite birds Dan,,,,   will be watching for sure.

I agree with Doogs,, the belts should be fine.....

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by Electric Blues on Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:58 PM

dcaponeII

My only critique thus far would be to suggest that you leave a bit more space on the glass for building.  Looks like the parts take up too much room.

 

True, this model is going to be a big one!  Gotta make some space!

Here's a shot of the PE seat belts. Although it says Trumpeter, the instructions inside call out for the Revell piece numbers so I guess I'll be OK.

Spent most of the afternoon looking for, saving and studying all the photos I could find. Especially of the cockpit since I'll be starting there.

 Just noticed I'll be needing a couple of 1/32 swastikas as they aren't included in the kit.

 

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Posted by Devil Dawg on Thursday, October 13, 2011 9:45 PM

You might be able to just paint the swastikas. Being all straight lines, they shouldn't be too hard to mask and paint.

Devil Dawg

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Posted by kermit on Thursday, October 13, 2011 9:56 PM

Devil Dawg

You might be able to just paint the swastikas. Being all straight lines, they shouldn't be too hard to mask and paint.

That is an issue with all, if not most european brands...no swastika's provided. Its a legal thing. Everytime i buy a kit that contains swastika's the importer took a big marker to blacken them or even cut them out the decal sheets.... 

Richard

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Posted by Electric Blues on Friday, October 14, 2011 6:46 AM

Painting them on is a good option. If not, I have some decal paper around.

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Posted by Electric Blues on Friday, October 14, 2011 4:17 PM

After studying photos on the internet, these will be the colors (with a few mixes) that I will be using for the interiors.

 

 

Here are the pieces for step 1 in the instructions. All flash and detachment points have been cleaned up and sanded.

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Posted by maxfax on Friday, October 14, 2011 4:28 PM

Looking forward to this build! This one is on my " to buy" list.

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Posted by Electric Blues on Saturday, October 15, 2011 2:09 AM

Here's step 1 of the instructions finished. I'll be adding the PE belts next. The instructions say I should eliminate the molded in belts first but I have no way of doing that and for me at least, it would be a good way to screw up the seats. What do you think about that?

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Posted by Devil Dawg on Sunday, October 16, 2011 2:33 PM

The best way to remove the molded-in seat belts is to use a Dremel tool with a decent grinding bit, and just grind off a little at a time. Once you're satisfied with it, use a small polishing bit in your Dremel tool, and smooth out the plastic. It's easier than it sounds. Just be careful, and do a little at a time, so you don't grind away too much plastic. 

Devil Dawg

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Posted by Electric Blues on Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:53 PM

Thanks!

I managed to file off the ones on the back seat. Here's a few shots of where I am now. It's up to step 8 in the instructions. I tried wiring the control panel and hand painted it, used PE seat belts for the first time, used clear blue on the sights since it was invisible in transparent. Didn't use correct gauge wire it looks like but left it since it won't be able to be seen on finished model.

 

Used salt technique on cockpit floor. Dry brushed some of the structure due to wear and tear. Added a hint of rust since the was a sea plane and no matter how good the maintenance was, I imagined there had to be a least a little rust in it.

Going to have to stop for a couple of days, I'll be leaving on a business trip.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Electric Blues on Sunday, October 16, 2011 7:29 PM

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Posted by Electric Blues on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:55 PM

No critique?

OK, I'll continue on then. First, correct a few mistakes I've noticed and then move forward.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 4:43 PM

Im just watching with interest. How can i critique something thats better than i could do?

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Posted by Electric Blues on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:27 PM

Thank you kindly Scorpio.

Yes

I have no idea where that small bump on the top edge of the seat came from but I've gotten rid of it now. Another thing I'll keep in mind for the next build is that I should have sanded down the top edge of the seat so that it would have been thiner and more to scale. Too late now though, I'd screw everything up if I tried to pull the seat out now.

I'm working on the fire wall now. Is that what it's called. Fire wall? Just like on cars?

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:51 PM

Yup, firewall is what its called. Occasionally you hear about pilots "Firewalling" the throttles. means slamming it up as far as it will go. Aircraft have both firewalls and bulkheads. Firewalls usually around engines (like in cars) bulkheads usually behind the crew compartment separating the fuselage.

As for the bump on the seat, didnt even notice it. When you pointed it out i looked at it and thought it looked like an armour plate repair job.

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Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

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