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Completed Tamiya 1/48 P-47 D-5

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Saturday, November 23, 2013 3:32 PM

The politics is why I gave up contests over 15 years ago.  Now I enjoy modeling more because I'm not worried about what someone else will think.

 

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Saturday, November 23, 2013 9:14 AM

lawdog114

Reasoned

Wow, so…. there's someone in the greater Cleveland area with a better build than that? Yeah, right.

Thanks for the kind words guys.  Reasoned, apparently there are several better modelers.  There were a lot of 1/48 single prop entries, so they chose to divide them up into sub catergories (inline, radial).  I had a 1 in 6 shot and still got da shaft.....Angry.  Even my wife, who knows nothing about models or much less a model show, noticed the favortism.  I think I'm done with the model show for a while.  if I do decide to compete again, perhaps I'll pull the fire alarm at the award presentation......Wink.  The local Fire Department might not get the humor though....

Joe

Maybe you should be a judge next year and use their standards!Devil

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, November 22, 2013 11:23 PM

Reasoned

Wow, so…. there's someone in the greater Cleveland area with a better build than that? Yeah, right.

Thanks for the kind words guys.  Reasoned, apparently there are several better modelers.  There were a lot of 1/48 single prop entries, so they chose to divide them up into sub catergories (inline, radial).  I had a 1 in 6 shot and still got da shaft.....Angry.  Even my wife, who knows nothing about models or much less a model show, noticed the favortism.  I think I'm done with the model show for a while.  if I do decide to compete again, perhaps I'll pull the fire alarm at the award presentation......Wink.  The local Fire Department might not get the humor though....

Joe

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Posted by ruddratt on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 8:21 PM

Makes me wonder if those judges were looking at the same models we are. Your work is outstanding Joe. Sometimes though, it does goes the opposite way. In the late 90's I entered a local IPMS show, my sole entry being a 1/48 Hasegawa Macchi Folgore. It was a good day for my little 202, taking best in category, best aircraft, and a best-in-show. Some of the 'locals', who I considered buds (silly me), were less than thrilled, basically saying "congrats, but don't ever enter our show again". Fortunately, they were the minority - most thought the awards were well-deserved.

Mike

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Posted by 7474 on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:16 PM

It's all politics, sadly. You did a really nice job..

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:18 PM

Lemme tell ya, you can build one mean model Joe!!! Nice!

                   

 

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Posted by Reasoned on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:42 PM

Wow, so…. there's someone in the greater Cleveland area with a better build than that? Yeah, right.

Having never entered a model competition myself, I suspect that the nature of subjective judging is a recipe for cronyism.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:18 AM

Fly-n-hi

lawdog114

Borg R3-MC0

That is a great build, it really looks like prize winner.

Funny you should say that.  I entered this turkey into the rigged aCensored Cleveland Model Show earlier in the month and it didn't win jack squat.  Sore loser you may say?   Absolutely!.......Hmm, especially since all of the model club members tend to run away with most of the awards.  I'm not really a conspiracy theorist, but it can't be a coincidence  that the model club member who won first place in the "out of the box" catergory didn't even have his instructions with the kit which are required per IPMS rules.....Ha!  Happy thoughts....

Sorry, I couldn't resist...the venting continues....

 Joe

But I was good and I didn't complain.  I still think its important to respect the judges.  I didn't want to be "that guy."

And I'm not trying to disrespect those guys who did get the awards.  Their builds were nice.  But the reality is that the judges got it wrong...at least in this particular category. 

 
Thanks Fly-n-hi.  I've been stewing over this for a few weeks now, so its nice to get another perspective.  Its also nice to vent a bit.  One of my former bosses used to describe me as "tragically competitive".  I suppose he's not far off but I have mellowed with age.  I have very little respect for the so-called judges, who are of course members of the local IPMS chapter (shocker).  After overhearing some of these conversations between the judges I'm at the point where I might want to actually be "that guy".  You see, they bring their models to their monthly meetings so they all know who built what, and judge accordingly.  There's also a little flap that can be lifted to show the modeler's name.  You don't have to be a genius to figure this out.  I know, pay the fee, join the club, then reap the rewards.....lol. 
 
I unfortunately build 1/48 Prop which is the most popular category.  To be fair, its the most popular category and there is usually some fine work in there.  With this in mind, I entered my P-51C Berlin Express and this build.  I checked all the things the pen light police look for and thought for sure one of the two would place.  I then switched strategies and entered the out of the box category with my Eduard Spitfire IX......well....swing and a miss on all of them.  Then my suspicions seemed to be confirmed when the aforementioned club member took first place in this category without instructions.  Well laddy friggin da!. Here's a thought, if you make rules how about going by them....
 
Ahhhhh....I feel better now.  This all said, just by my stubborn nature, I'll probably try again next year against my better judgement.  Or perhaps I will just go get a root canal for the fun of it. 
 
Joe   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:48 PM

lawdog114

Borg R3-MC0

That is a great build, it really looks like prize winner.

Funny you should say that.  I entered this turkey into the rigged aCensored Cleveland Model Show earlier in the month and it didn't win jack squat.  Sore loser you may say?   Absolutely!.......Hmm, especially since all of the model club members tend to run away with most of the awards.  I'm not really a conspiracy theorist, but it can't be a coincidence  that the model club member who won first place in the "out of the box" catergory didn't even have his instructions with the kit which are required per IPMS rules.....Ha!  Happy thoughts....

Sorry, I couldn't resist...the venting continues....

 Joe

I feel your pain, bro!  I entered a couple of models that I was sure would be prize winners in our local annual contest this year and two of my finest models didn't get anything.

Now, last year, I entered 5 models and got four 1st places, one 2nd place (that one was competing against one of those 1st placers) and 3 Best out of Box awards...in the 1/48 modern jets category which is fairly competitive.  I honestly don't say this to brag but rather to show that I know what it takes to win a 1st place prize...like I'm stating my credentials.

So this year, when I set my 2 models on the table and saw the competition I thought I had it wrapped up by a mile...and so did most other people.

Now there was one guy in this particular category who flawed his wing up, noted it on his entry form (he blamed it on the car ride over), and still got 1st place!  So now all you have to do is note your flaws on the entry form and blame it on the car ride?  It was so strange.  I mean it really was a head scratcher.  And the 2nd place winner was about as plain jane as they get.

In this case I think the judges were really rushed for time and just picked their 3 favorites or something.  It was a record turnout this year so there were alot more planes to look at.  When the awards were handed out many people were shaking their heads and saying "WTF!" and "I can't believe you didn't get anything!"  But I was good and I didn't complain.  I still think its important to respect the judges.  I didn't want to be "that guy."

And I'm not trying to disrespect those guys who did get the awards.  Their builds were nice.  But the reality is that the judges got it wrong...at least in this particular category.  The other categories seemed correct, though.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:22 PM

Borg R3-MC0

That is a great build, it really looks like prize winner.

Funny you should say that.  I entered this turkey into the rigged aCensored Cleveland Model Show earlier in the month and it didn't win jack squat.  Sore loser you may say?   Absolutely!.......Hmm, especially since all of the model club members tend to run away with most of the awards.  I'm not really a conspiracy theorist, but it can't be a coincidence  that the model club member who won first place in the "out of the box" catergory didn't even have his instructions with the kit which are required per IPMS rules.....Ha!  Happy thoughts....

Sorry, I couldn't resist...the venting continues....

 Joe

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Adaster on Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:19 AM

Great job and I love that Tamiya kit!

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:59 PM

Oh I have built a couple Tamiya birds already. I just don't have any of their Jugs due to pricing. But after seeing this I will certainly be on the lookout for one at a good price. And since nobody else makes a M in 1/48 it is a good excuse...Wink

Oh and I already have an AM sheet for Jugs that just happens to have a M on there...Whistling

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:46 PM

Beautiful work all the way around LD Yes Very interesting to learn about your wing streaking technique. Perhaps one day I may borrow it on a build of my own. Seems a lot easier to do than streaking with a wash, ... I am with you on preferring a more brown shade of OD on AAF builds. Did the 4th FG really still have their P-47s in March of '44? I figured that Ole Buckeye Don would have had his Pony by then and started racking up the kills... In any case, from the groundwork to the tips of the propeller and tail, very sweet!Toast I hear noting but praise for the Tamiya P-47s... and yours is obviously worthy of moreBow Down Perhaps an M may join my stash one day if the price is right

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:14 PM

Very nicely done indeed Sir! Love the tutorial as well thanks for taking the time to post it up!

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:51 AM

That is a great build, it really looks like prize winner.

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Posted by Buckeye on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:24 AM

Beautiful build!  Thanks for explaining how you got that great finish.Toast

Mike

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Posted by flyinyak on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:59 AM

That looks stellar !  Love the weathering, etc.

I'm 75% through the Tam Bubbletop P-47. The kit is almost weirdly good - i keep waiting for something to not fit properly, etc - nothing. Any issues are my own doing.

Cheers.

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Posted by handiabled on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:10 AM

 

 

                                         Awesome work!!!      YesCool

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Posted by Reasoned on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:34 AM

Love it lawdog!  Your work is spot on and exceptionally clean.  At least with that radial, some engine detail can be seen, which is a shame to cover up.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:54 AM

constructor

Ths is one clean built. The clear lines on the canopy is fantastic. What masking did you use for it? Awsome!

Constructor, sorry I missed your question.  I use Tamiya masking tape exclusively.  Fantastic stuff.  I put it on a clean mirror then cut it into several thin strips with a fresh Number 11 Exacto blade.  I then frame out each window pane individually, cutting the tape as needed on each pane (I use a separate new Exacto for this task), leaving the part that needs painted exposed.  Once done framing it out, fill in the rest of the window with tape cut to size and put a large piece on the inside to prevent overspray.   I believe I took that technique from and old FSM magazine article on painting canopies.  There were several other options, but this one has always worked for me.  Its tedious but worth it.  It was in the issue with the sweet Atlantic schemed Avenger on the cover if I remember correctly, about 5 or so years ago.... 

Joe

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, September 8, 2012 11:21 PM

Fly-n-hi

Not to nit pick too badly...but on step 4 you're spraying with the chord line, not across it.  Just pointing that out  to avoid confusion.

Got some WWII birds in the stash.  I'll have to try this out.

Ahh...good catch.  I wrote that very late at night, or should I say early in the morning (as you can see by the time stamp....lol)  and It sounded good in my head.  Kind of like in my last description of this procedure in another thread as "wicking".  Perhaps I should have said "along"  Oh well, hopefully the description coupled with the pictures will help people get the idea. 

I never mind nit-picking...

Joe

 

 

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Posted by mississippivol on Saturday, September 8, 2012 3:34 PM

Excellent work. I'm going to have to remember this for when I ever get mine pulled out to build.

Glenn

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Saturday, September 8, 2012 8:57 AM

Not to nit pick too badly...but on step 4 you're spraying with the chord line, not across it.  Just pointing that out  to avoid confusion.

Got some WWII birds in the stash.  I'll have to try this out.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, September 8, 2012 6:56 AM

Lovely looking build and a great little toot as well.

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Posted by constructor on Saturday, September 8, 2012 5:54 AM

Ths is one clean built. The clear lines on the canopy is fantastic. What masking did you use for it? Awsome!

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, September 8, 2012 4:49 AM

Thanks for the compliments guys!  Due to the inquiries about my paint weathering "streaking" process, I suppose I could throw a brief tutorial in here.  I have explained this to some degree in some of my other threads, but to save time in searching for it, I'll explain it again.  Believe it or not, I accidentally discovered this technique while spraying the exhaust stains on the top of a P-61's wings.  I tweaked it and came up with this.  First, you need an airbrush that can do reasonably fine lines.  I use the Thayer Chandler Omni 4000 which is gravity fed.  If you use have a similar gravity fed brush, make sure you put the cap on it (ask me how I discovered this).  I use Tamiya acrylics which I find give me excellent control.  Well, here's what you do (I'll use the above scheme as the example paints):

1.  Spray your base color.  For Olive Drab I mix about 60% Olive Drab and 40% Khaki (estimate, not an exact science here).  This gives a brownish green Olive Drab hue which I prefer on my USAAF subjects. 

2.  Once done, take the same paint and lighten it.  You may want to thin it a bit as well.  With the above, I added Tamiya Buff, however, with other schemes you can use white too.  (Note: set aside some of the "original" mixture for future use (You'll see why in a minute).

3.  Set the compressor at a low setting....say about 5 or 10 psi.  If you don't have this ability, it still should work.  I just find it easier to use low pressure. 

4.  This is where it gets tricky to describe in words....but i'll try.  Take your airbrush loaded with the above mixture and start at the wing root.  Spray quickly across the chord of the wing from front to back mimicking the airflow.  The wrist "flicking" motion you will use will be similar to how you dust your models, only you're going from front to back and using an airbrush.  Work your way down the wing to the tip.  If its not yet noticeable, lighten the paint a little more.  If you over do it, add more of the original mixture you saved and use the SAME technique over it, or should I say commingled with it.  This will tone it down.  Just keep alternating the mixtures until you get the affect your looking for.  Its best to slightly over do it because your clear coat, decal application, line wash, and final dullcoat will tone the effect down substantially.......experiment! 

5.  I then tape around the control surfaces and use another variation of the above mixture(s) on them so they stand out slightly, similar to how you change the shades of metal in a natural metal finish.  I used to fade the surfaces considerably but this forum has taught me that this was not really accurate (not so old dogs can learn new tricks).  The idea is to as interest to an otherwise boring scheme. 

6.  Optional:  Once it looks good to your eye, mix up a batch of extremely diluted Tamiya Red Brown and NATO Black and hit the panel lines, with emphasis on the the control surface lines.  

Thats about it.  It sounds complicated but its really not, especially if your savvy with your particular airbrush.  It works with any scheme too, not just OD over NG.  I use it to some degree on just about all of my paint schemes.  I hope this makes sense and I don't sound like a rambling tool.  Use it freely and good luck.

Joe

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Texgunner on Saturday, September 8, 2012 2:45 AM

Very nice indeed!  The 'pit, the paint, the weathering, all of that looks great.  The weathered streaking does look cool, and I'm also curious about the techniques used to get that look.  That's a fine looking P-47.

Gary


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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, September 7, 2012 11:18 PM

Totally fantastic!

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Posted by Blitzwing on Friday, September 7, 2012 10:23 PM

That is one great looking build, and some very nice work on the base and figure as well. I just bought this kit on e-bay and now I'm just dying to lift up that box lid and see what's inside.

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