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Posted by BrandonK on Monday, October 6, 2014 6:24 PM

Ok, I found, not bought, an ICM Do-215B-5. Two questions

1. Is this an allowed aircraft for the build?

2. Has anyone had any experience with ICM or this kit?

I can always find another kit but this one intrigues me.

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, October 6, 2014 6:33 PM

Hi Brandon,

Yes indeed, that looks like a great subject and quite an unusual one! here's the Wiki page for it:

en.wikipedia.org/.../Dornier_Do_215

ICM is a company that has developed a good rep for having well moulded parts, very crisp surface detail and generally good assembly, though some of their early offerings were quite fiddly. I have lots of ICM in my stash, Spits, Mustangs and so on, so I say bring it on!

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, October 7, 2014 10:37 AM

Brandon...

I also have that kit, I have no plans to build (yet) but in my opinion, the ICM/MPM kits are among some of the best detailed kits I have ever built. For the price range they occupy they are hard to beat. Ive heard some say ( not doubting) that they are "flashy" but like  Mike, I have several in stash, and have not noted this problem on any that I have. When examining my 215, I found it a very nicely detailed and molded kit.

Maybe a set of AM decals would be all I would want to look into. But thats just me...

Take care, and cant wait to start this one, I have a CyberHobby Ju88 just begging to be built.

Doug

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, October 7, 2014 11:40 AM

Mike, when do you plan on putting the build thread up.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by panzerpilot on Tuesday, October 7, 2014 12:48 PM

Thanks, Mike.

I look forward to this. It will be my 4th GB obligation for 2015. I have some kind of modelling fever and need help. I just ordered another 109, with this build in mind. A 1/32 hassie G-10 nachtjager. Not sure if that will be my build yet...TBD. it would be a good crossover (if allowed) from the upcoming 109GB. That big 110 in my stash, painted up in black(ish) shades would be fun as well.

-Tom

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, October 7, 2014 1:15 PM

Only 4 Tom, you got plenty of room for more yet. That big 110 would be nice to see. I would like to do the 32nd He 219, but I want to practice the scheme at a smaller scale first.

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Posted by panzerpilot on Tuesday, October 7, 2014 1:46 PM

Bish

Only 4 Tom, you got plenty of room for more yet. That big 110 would be nice to see. I would like to do the 32nd He 219, but I want to practice the scheme at a smaller scale first.

Good point! You are an enabler Big Smile. I mean, it is a full year, and at least a few of the GBs end mid year. Doing a bit of research, over time, for nachtjagers has been interesting. It would be easy to just paint a plane black and be done with it, but there are so many shades of "black" out there. Mixed in with dark greys, etc. it seems possible to make quite a presentation.
The He219 is an interesting platform isn't it? They sure had some exotic looking twins. Hasegawa now has a nachtjager 1/32 Me262 out now as well that looks neat.
This was an interesting section of the air war. Given the limited navigation aids and radar guidance, it must have been quite a dynamic battle. Just to find your base after a fight must have been quite a challenge. I understand most of the airborne radars were only good for a few miles.
Other history is interesting as well. In 'tail end charlies', they told of the evasion procedures for Lancasters, facing these guys. It was an aggressive downward spiral. One tail gunner spoke of firing his guns blindly and seeing a 262 with both engines instantly "brewed up". Then there were the guys who would have a 109 or 110, fly right up underneath them and hit them with "slanted music"...

-Tom

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, October 7, 2014 2:13 PM

I am down for 10 GB's that end next year, with end dates that run through the year. So I just try and build for which ever GB ends next.

I do rather like the German NF mottle scheme. But I have not tried it yet. So I figured trying it on one of the Dragon kits first would be a good practice. And there are indeed some very interesting subjects out there.

I recall reading one account which said the pilot knew when was close enough to the bomber when the radar operators voice suddenly went up several pitches as they were suddenly close to it. The upward firing guns must have been very unnerving for the British bomber crews.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Tuesday, October 7, 2014 6:06 PM

Bish -- I'll launch the main thread on the GB forum on October 31st, for a November 1st start -- that might be a day early considering the dateline, but that's okay!

In the last week before launch I'll go through this thread and compile a participants list with proposed builds to list in the inaugural post, and which can then be modified as needed.

Tom -- four? I'm considering building at least six for the 109 GB alone! :-) I'm currently on completions 8 and 9 for this year, with several more well through production...

Cheers, M

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:39 PM

I've got a 1/48 Dragon JU88G-6 that I would like to join up with and maybe time permitting a1/48 Pro Modeller Me410 as well . Love the variation in schemes these subjects offer, so many different Mottle combos on the Nachtjagers. Not to mention the later Radar and Schrage Music configurations to choose from! cheers Trey

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Tuesday, October 7, 2014 10:04 PM

Welcome aboard, sounds great!

M/TB379

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:56 AM

Mike, i'll keep my eyes open for it. I try to stick to just one, maybe 2, builds for any GB as there are just so many out there I want to join and I like to try and vary my builds as much as p[possible.

TREY, glad to see you getting back into it. Always look forward to your builds, I will be really keep my eyes open for the 88.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, October 8, 2014 12:04 PM

Thunderbolt,

I'll be in with something, I don't have a clue with what just yet, but something.

When was the start date? I didn't see it in the posts yet.

Steve

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, October 8, 2014 12:17 PM

Steve, looks like you have caught the bug. Big Smile

Its 1st Nov and will run for a year.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, October 8, 2014 1:35 PM

Bish...LOLOLOL... that would be a great indicator of how close you were!  A good pilot would likely use that before anything else! Funny...

Doug

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Make Lemonade!

Then Sell It Back At $2 Bucks A Glass...

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, October 8, 2014 1:39 PM

I know, and it made me laugh. I can't recall where I read it, but it was all to do with how primitive the radar was and how it indicated the location of other aircraft. And I would guess that often the pilot would never see his target as it was a black underside against a black sky.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, October 10, 2014 10:46 PM

I just ordered Kurt Tank's Focke Wulf Fw 189A-1 "Night Fighter"  in 1:72 scale from MPM for this build.

Steve

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Friday, October 10, 2014 10:55 PM

That'll be a most interesting project!

M/TB379

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, October 11, 2014 1:08 AM

Yes, I'm excited about it.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Monday, October 13, 2014 1:00 PM

Just noticed I have a ME410B-6/R-2 in my stash from PM. I guess I should probably build that one rather than purchase another and not hit my stash. So, I am changing my kit to the PM Me410-B-6/R-2, if that is allowed.

On the bench:

A lot !! And I mean A LOT!!

2024 Kits on deck / in process / completed   

                         14 / 5 / 2  

                              Tongue Tied

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, October 13, 2014 5:13 PM

By all means, any changes you like are fine.

A fortnight from go-time, and counting!

M/TB379

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Posted by panzerpilot on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:10 PM

I got the 109 I am planning on doing for this GB. It uses a fuel tank that was a wing tank for a P-47, as a belly tank. Interesting. The model is late war, April '45. I suppose the Luftwaffe was using recovered tanks on some planes for longer range?

-Tom

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:11 PM

OK, I'm ready. I received my FW-189 today. It looks like a very detailed kit for 1/72 scale. It has separate seatbelts and a very detailed office

Looks like a fun build. I'm excited to start.

Steve

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:19 PM

That'll be a most unusual beast, Steve! The camo will be a challenge, and so will the radar in 1:72.

Come on, November!

Mike/TB379

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:46 PM

Yeah, I'm thinking if I can pull that camo off in 1/72, I can do just about anything with an airbrush.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:38 PM

I'm not too sure about my entry for this one. It's probably going to be the He 219, but I got some other neat birds in my stash as well:

  • Dragon's Bf 110 E Nachtjäger (1/32)
  • Eduard's new Fw 190 Nachtjäger (1/48)
  • And I'm thinking about getting me that big Trumpeter Me 262 two-seater... 

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Posted by jugjunkie on Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:04 PM

I'll jump in on this but i'll probably start with my first post on Nov 01 but then i'll have to put it away until about April while I finish up what's already on my plate. I'll be doing Revell's 1/48 Arado Ar 234 B/2N "Nachtigall"

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:34 PM

SS -- any of those would be great! I'm doing the 262 2-seater but the Dragon issue of the Trimaster kit in 48th -- it'll be a challenge, if the Trimaster Ta-152 is anything to go by.

JJ -- sounds great! I'm looking forward to lots of spectacular night camo jobs!

M/TB379

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Posted by jugjunkie on Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:14 AM

I could be in - got load on my plate but I was planning to start an Arado 234 /N anyway. If this could start Jan for 12 months, i could do.

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Posted by jugjunkie on Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:23 AM

Read the threads she said!!!! OK I see it's a 1 Nov start, i'll have to hold back until some time next year before I commit, need to see if I can get through the GB's I've already committed to - sure i'll make it though.

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