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1/48 Italeri IAF F-16C Barak WIP

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1/48 Italeri IAF F-16C Barak WIP
Posted by Fly-n-hi on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 12:40 PM

Hi guys.  Would any of you be interested in an In-Progress thread of an Italeri 1/48 IAF F-16C Barak?  I just finished the Revell F-15E WIP and it seems like a few people enjoyed that.  So I thought I might WIP this one too.

Here's the kit:

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Posted by mrmike on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 1:00 PM

Sure would! I'm thrashing thru a wheels-up build of the Italeri F-16 AM/ADF, and it'll be inspirational to see what you do with the Barak, knowing your skill level. Please post away!

Mike

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 2:38 PM

Oh yes!   I want to see what you do with that Israeli camo scheme after what you did with the Strike Eagle.

BTW, your building skills are pretty sharp too!Wink

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Posted by Dean30 on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:13 PM

Can't wait! I have not seen this kit before, or at least I don't remember if I have, I thought they did it in 72 scale.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:15 PM

Alrighty!  Thanks for the kind words guys!  With nice comments like that I think I'll begin posting.

I've got some AM stuff for this kit.  Right now I've got:

  • Aires F-16C Barak cockpit
  • Royal Resin weighted wheels
  • Brassin AIM-120Bs

There are a few other things I may get like the metal pitot tube and AOA sensors and some AM decals.  I will probably add some hydraulic lines to the landing gear as well.

Here's the Aires cockpit.  Its very nicely detailed but there is much surgery needed to make it fit into the kit fuselage parts:

I didn't take a before pic but here you can see where I sanded out the details on the inside of the upper fuselage part.  I also cut out some of the plastic behind where the seat will be.  I also removed some of the plastic to widen the space where the IP coaming will fit.  I just bought a Dremel 3000 and it worked great sanding out the fuselage part:

On thing that is really nice is that the ejection seat slides down into those guide rails and the fit is spot on.  I have no idea how they mold these!

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:22 PM

One thing I try to do when I build is to get much of the smaller details out of the way at the beginning.  Many of you saw on the F-15E build that I had the weapons, fuel tanks and wheels assembled and painted at the beginning.  I'm doing that here with this build, too.

Here are the fuel tanks assembled and primed:

I can tell you already that this kit is not nearly as nice as the Tamiya kit...not even close!

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Posted by MAgather on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:00 PM

I stumbled onto your technique of getting the small stuff out early on my current GB project. The hardest part of any model for me is the final details.  So building them first takes most of that pain out of the mix.

Good Modeling,
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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Thursday, April 17, 2014 1:29 AM

Here's the tub with a wash applied.  Its really visible in the olive drab floor part and on the sidewalls:

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:28 AM

That cockpit tub paint work looks fantastic.   Aires does like to use a lot of resin in the sidewalls and tub structure.

That tub might be heavy enough that you might not need any additional weight up front to keep it from tail-sitting.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:16 AM

Thanks!

Dre

That tub might be heavy enough that you might not need any additional weight up front to keep it from tail-sitting.

Maybe. I've actually already added some. I might try to add a resin exhaust and if I do that it will probably become a tail sitter.  I used Aves Apoxie Sculp and mixed in some steel bird shot:
Dre
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Posted by Dre on Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:03 AM

That ought to do it.  

 I'm thinking that a nosecone full of bird shot might make for some false returns on the tracking radar.....Stick out tongue

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:05 AM

Ha!  Yeah, you'd think you'd be flying into a mountain!

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, April 18, 2014 10:18 AM

This kit is very similar to the Tamiya kit in the way that the parts are broken down...but the fit of the parts and the crispness of the parts is not even close to the Tamiya kit.  In fact, I think this is a reboxing of the Kinetic kit which is newer than the Tamiya kit!

Here's the intake.  I've built two Tamiya F-16s before and both times I assembled the intakes completely before installing them into the lower fuselage part.  Doing this allows you to make the unit seamless.  Otherwise the instructions have you assemble the intake into a front half and a rear half and install them separately.  

These took alot of sanding before they were good enough.  Plus, they had really large ejector pin marks that had these sprue stalagmites sticking up out of them.  In the end, though, I think I did pretty good with them.

I used the "pour & dump" method of pouring white latex paint into the intake and then dumping it out and letting it dry.  Its a little grainy because I lightly sanded out a few blemishes in the paint:

Here's the compressor face.  Again, this part isn't nearly up to Tamiya standards.  I painted it Alclad II Steel and highlighted the raised detail with silver:

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, April 18, 2014 10:22 AM

Yikes, that compressor face is pretty much featureless.

Would it be worth it to make a bunch of tiny triangles to shove in there as blades?

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, April 18, 2014 10:29 AM

I've assembled the fuselage parts that wrap around the forward intake.  I hate to sound like a broken record but, again, the fit of the parts is surprisingly bad.

I've also painted and attached the intake lip.  Some people like to attach this part at the beginning and sand it seamlessly with the intake.  Then later on they will mask it and paint it the old fashioned way.  I think it easier to paint it and attach it later:

The top of the completed assembly leaves some fairly large steps.  One of these steps is the result of the lip piece not mating flush with the fuselage parts.  The other steps are just bad molding on the parts themselvesBang Head.  I used Aves Apoxie Sculpt to fill in the depressed space:

After sanding you can see how much filler was needed to make the part seamless:

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, April 18, 2014 10:33 AM

Dre

Yikes, that compressor face is pretty much featureless.

Would it be worth it to make a bunch of tiny triangles to shove in there as blades?

No, it wouldn't be worth it in my opinion simply because you really can't see it once its installed.  Even if you shine a light in there to look at it its so far back that it is hard to see any detail.  It just bugs me, though, that a modern $40+ kit has terrible detail like this.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, April 18, 2014 10:57 AM

I can understand the irk, Fly.    That's one reason I love Trumpeter kits so much- they detail the hidden parts to a good degree.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, April 18, 2014 11:05 AM

The main reason I bought this kit was because it included the Barak parts and weapons.  I should have just bought the Tamiya kit and the AM resin parts for a few $$ more to build it up into a Barak.  Oh well, I'm in it for the long haul now.

Besides, isn't this what modeling is?  Taking a bad kit and trying to make it good?  This will sharpen some skills I haven't used in a while since I've been getting pampered by Tamiya and HasegawaYes.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, April 18, 2014 12:07 PM

I have no doubt that this will be awesome when finished.   I'm looking forward to the paint work to see how you layer it up.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, April 18, 2014 12:25 PM

Thanks Dre!  The layering on this will be a bit different.  Since there will be 4 main colors I will be using some clear colors like Mr. Color Smoke to give more consistent shading across the different body colors.

Moving along...Here's a peek at the weapons.  The kit does include quite a few weapons, which is a plus, but some of the moldings are unusable.  The AGM-65 Mavericks are complete junk.

The IAF weapons are OK, though, and look as if they are an addition to the kit.  I'm wondering if these are the Skunk Works weapons that have been packaged with the kit?

The load out will be 2 AIM-120Bs, 2 Python 4s, 1 GBU-15 and 1 SPICE.  An of course I will have the 3 fuel tanks, a LANTIRN pod and maybe a SNIPER XR pod.  Here they are painted and gloss coated:

And here they are decaled and mostly finished:

I've scratch built the seeker heads on the Pythons, GBU-15 and the SPICE.

The 2 AIM-120Bs are the Brassin resin missiles.  I have the fins painted and ready I just haven't put them on yet.  That's the kind of tedious stuff I hate doing.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, April 18, 2014 1:35 PM

Those weapons look fantastic!

Are you going to weather this one as intensely as the Strike Eagle?

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Saturday, April 19, 2014 10:48 AM

Dre

Those weapons look fantastic!

Are you going to weather this one as intensely as the Strike Eagle?

Thank you!

I'm not sure how much weathering ill do with this one.  I'm pretty sure there won't be 11 layers of paint simply because I'd have to do that for each color!  I will do some layering, though.  And I'll do some general post shading for sure.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Saturday, April 19, 2014 10:53 AM
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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Saturday, April 19, 2014 10:55 AM

Here's the polished canopy.  After I sanded out the mold line I used my new Dremel 3000 and the Novus polishing compounds to get it crystal clear:

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:23 PM

Here are the two upper fuselage parts glued together.  I had to do a bit of sanding to get the parts to but up flush against one another.  

I've also installed the two panel parts in the back upper part.  Tamiya does this as well.  I wish they wouldn't.

The gun Muzzle is installed, also.

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Posted by Dean30 on Monday, April 21, 2014 9:49 AM

If I send you my Tornado weapons will you build them for me lol? I always find weapons tedious, I have to say I sort of agree with Dre about the extra detail even though I contradicted him on my thread, the extra detail Trumpeter is brilliant, just means all of the kit is taken care of, Revell didn't even bother to scribe any detail to the fuselage sides on my Tornado! Too much is better than too little I think! Loving this build fly!

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 9:37 PM
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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 9:43 PM

I also attempted to assemble the exhaust and burner can.  What a disaster these parts were.  The fit was so bad I decided to use a Shull24 resin exhaust instead.  These are so much nicer anyway!

Here's how one of them looks on a 1/48 Hasegawa F-2A:

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