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The Italeri 1/72nd WACO CG-4A Glider (Finished)

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GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Thursday, December 24, 2015 10:13 PM

Merry Christmas!

For Christmas Eve I have another update for you.  The Waco is almost finished now, as my bucket list grows ever shorter.  One thing you may note here are the cookie pans she's sitting in waiting for glosscote.  These I found in the dumpster of our apartment building.

 Every so often people will move out and leave stuff behind (because reasons), so the cleaners will come in and toss all that stuff into the trash.  Sometimes there's something worthwhile that I find when I take my own garbage out, and these were sitting on top of the trash, remarkably clean and in good shape.  So I grabbed them and a couple of other items.  I don't bake, but they will make great parts trays for my models.

I sprayed the model with glosscote, leaving the cockpit off.  There are not many decals, but I did have to do some work on the tail codes to get them to match up to the glider I am modeling.  Luckily, I had enough numbers (and a few touches of paint) to get the serial number right.

While the Microsol was doing its work, I tackled the remaining very tiny parts that were to fit on the canopy.  The tow cable attachment, the pitot tube and something I'm not sure of (?).  It was a struggle to get these on, and the part that I'm not sure of disappeared into the carpet, so I had to remake it.  Have I mentioned how I hate fiddly bits?

Once they were on, secured and painted, I installed another cable piece (not included in the kit) to the pitot.  It runs from the back of the frame to the fuselage just before the wing.  I'm not sure what its purpose is, besides helping secure the pitot tube and frame.

 

And that's where she stands right now.  Tomorrow, if the weather is good, I'll cover the canopy and give the model a coating of dullcote.  Then I can remove the masking on the windows (and hope no paint has run under the masking).  A couple of other minor tasks (such as small windows along the sides) and she will be done.

Thanks for looking, and I hope everyone has a pleasant and enjoyable holiday!

Gary

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    August 2013
Posted by Jay Jay on Friday, December 25, 2015 9:57 AM

A very merry CHRISTmas to you and yours as well.

Gary, that is simply stellar work on this litttle glider and much inspiration to me. Your C-47/Glider project has reached to the top of my bucket list for 2016 and I am filing your W.I.P for future referance if you don't object.  I already have reserved a ceiling space to hang mine...lol

TY so much for the detailed explaination of your work as it is a tremendous help to us struggling modelers.

 

 

 

 

 

 I'm finally retired. Now time I got, money I don't.

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Friday, December 25, 2015 7:14 PM

Jay Jay

A very merry CHRISTmas to you and yours as well.

Gary, that is simply stellar work on this litttle glider and much inspiration to me. Your C-47/Glider project has reached to the top of my bucket list for 2016 and I am filing your W.I.P for future referance if you don't object.  I already have reserved a ceiling space to hang mine...lol

TY so much for the detailed explaination of your work as it is a tremendous help to us struggling modelers.

Thanks, Jay Jay!  I'm glad this thread has inspired somebody.  Wink

But this thread should be used as a lesson in how NOT to put this model together.  Really, it made me stop and consider what steps I should use in putting together another model that I am working on.  I hope to avoid some of the problems I've had with this one.

There were things about this model I left out of the WIP posts.  I'll try to do a round up in my finished post.

Didn't finish her today as I had hoped.  I stayed up late until well in the morning doing odds and ends (and missing Santa entirely).  I subsequently slept well into the day.  But I did manage to find that missing part  on the canopy!  Guess the Christmas Elves relented and gave me a break!

Hope you and yours had a great Christmas!

Gary

PS> If you ever get ready to do yours, I'll gladly give you all the reference pictures I've collected from the internet. 

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, December 26, 2015 10:29 AM

She is looking really nice Gary.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Monday, December 28, 2015 12:00 AM

The 1/72nd Italeri WACO CG-4A glider is finished.  For those of you who don't like long-winded explanations about the build, here are the pictures.

 

The model represents a CG-4A of the 301st Troop Carrier Squadron which was towed aloft on June 7th, 1944 behind a C-47 for "Mission Hackensack", taking off from Merryfield, Somerset. Onboard were 1st lt. Hammitt E. Porter, pilot, and 2nd lt. Howard M. Thompson, co-pilot.  Cargo was 5 extra personnel (either the 325th Glider Infantry, or 401st Glider Infantry); water-can, 5-gallon; trailer, 1/4 ton; cl 60mm HEL; AT mines (Boxes) and a mine detector.  No losses were recorded for this mission, so I assume the glider landed okay.

Concerning the model, it went together decently, and except for my own mistakes, there were no major problems.  I do suggest a couple of things:

1. The cockpit is nothing like a real WACO glider.  With such an open canopy, I suggest doing a bit of scratchbulding.  There are no pilot and co-pilot figures for this model, so if you want those you'll have to scrounge some up.
2. Leave the cargo floor out until the two fuselage halves are together.  I made the  mistake of gluing the cargo floor to one fuselage half, and then had a real problem getting the seams to match up.  I never did get the bottom seam done to my satisfaction.
3. Some of the parts are delicate and easily broken.  Leave as much off as you are able until the final steps.  You will be glad you did.
4. I skipped the slide mechanism for the cockpit.  The front of the model is supposed to be able to open and close, but it's fiddly and since I was going to pose this particular model in a take-off position, I left the mechanism off and glued it shut.

5. If you care about such things, Italeri left the rear support struts and suspension cables off.  You will have to scratchbuild these if you want to show them.

Oh, and I would leave attaching the cockpit until last as it allows you to fix problems with the windows and doors in the fuselage.

I have noticed in these pictures that I've probably added a bit too much mud on the frame and wheels (one reason there is no shot of the bottom).  It was raining lightly that morning, so you would expect some mud and being behind a C-47 you would get some kicked up in the backblast.  But it doesn't look right to me, and I'll clean her up a bit before she goes into the diorama.

Since the CG-4A is cloth covered, she should look a bit different from a regular OD aircraft, and I tried to get some variation in the OD paint job.  But, these were fairly brand new aircraft, and they were only flown once, so I doubt they would have faded very much in the time before D-Day.  The mud would probably only come from the grass field in which they were sitting during their time awaiting use, from rain, and the tow aircraft props.

Meanwhile, the next project for this is a 1/72nd "Follow Me!" jeep.  I wonder if I should just make it plain OD, or really drive myself crazy and do red and white squares?


Thanks for looking!

Gary

  • Member since
    June 2014
Posted by BrandonK on Monday, December 28, 2015 3:42 PM

That looks awesome, and it just got added to my "must build" list. Nice work, mang!!!

BK

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    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, December 28, 2015 3:45 PM
I think you have done a really nice job on this Gary and can't wait to see it with the C-47.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

  • Member since
    November 2003
  • From: Naples, FL
Posted by tempestjohnny on Monday, December 28, 2015 7:02 PM
Gary. This is a great build. Can't believe Italeri screwed up the cockpit that much. You should be proud of this one. John

 

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:54 AM

tempestjohnny
Gary. This is a great build. Can't believe Italeri screwed up the cockpit that much. You should be proud of this one. John

Brandon, Bish, John,

My thanks for your comments, guys.  You're being way too kind, but I appreciate the sentiments.  Smile

I've already begun cleaning her up a bit from my over-zealous attempt to weather her, and I think she's actually looking better now.  I've repainted the slats on the wings, and will use a decal to represent them.  I just need to print it out.

I also found some nylon thread to use as tow rope, and it's attached to the front of the tow point on the glider.  I also need to wrap it around with black thread to represent the communication cable.  Right now, I'm working on a jeep and looking for something to use as a base.

And I am not sure what Italeri was thinking when they did the cockpit.  I have not found any reference pictures that look anything like what they provided.  There are enough reference images on the internet to give you a guide to scratchbuild something.

Thanks again!

Gary

  • Member since
    August 2013
Posted by Jay Jay on Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:15 AM

Gary, just a little tip on the tow cable.  Power Pro braided fishing line looks just like steel cable when painted . it's pricey, but of course you can get it in any size you need.

 

 

 

 

 

 I'm finally retired. Now time I got, money I don't.

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Wednesday, December 30, 2015 6:27 PM

Jay Jay,

Thanks for the tip!  I may have to look for that.  However, the glider tow ropes were 11/16" diameter nylon, generally wrapped around by a communications cable of insulated copper wire.  They prefered nylon for its strength and stretch characteristics.

Interesting article on glider tow ropes.

http://www.mylubbock.us/docs/silent-wings-museum-file-library/glidertowropes.pdf?sfvrsn=2

  • Member since
    May 2017
Posted by Stuart Davies on Thursday, May 11, 2017 3:22 AM

Hi Gary,

 

Can I ask.... you quoted 2nd Lt Howard.M Thompson 

Where did you get this reference from?

I am doing some really important research on 2nd Lt Howard M Thompson who was a Glider Pilot.

I would appreciate any time or information you have on this. 

THanks.

Stuart

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