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DONE!!! - Revell of Germany Canadair CL-13 Sabre 6

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  • From: West of the rock and east of the hard place!
Posted by murph on Thursday, February 18, 2016 9:41 AM

Allan and Brandon,

Thanks for your kind words.  Greatly appeciated.

A slight amount of new work done .  Posting these photos with the assistance of Bruce (hogfanfs - thanks!) that hopefully won't have all the text underlined as a hyperlink.

Brandon - your save is exactly what I do.  I cut off the vent and glue a small piece of plastic card behind the resultant opening.  I then glue some Evergreen strip to the plastic card on the outside and then fill and sand.  Here's the plastic card inside the fuselage.

I've also glued the exhuast nozzle in place on the iside of the right half of the fuselage and then clamped both sides together to maintain proper alignment until the TETC cures.

I've also CA glued 3 X 3.5 gram (3 X 1/8 oz) steel sinkers into space in front of the main landing gear.  The instructions call for 6 grams but I add a bit extra as insurance and I've never had the landing gear sag or splay with this extra bit of weight.

That's it for now.  Next step will see me glue the landing light piece in place at the front of the fuselage near the intake opening.  Once that is in and dried, I'll glue the fuselage halves together and add the nose ring.  Will post a few more photos as work progresses.

Thanks for looking.

Mike

Retired and living the dream!

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Posted by BrandonD on Thursday, February 18, 2016 2:17 AM

This is really coming along, and thank you for sharing your knowledge about the vent only being on Japanese aircraft. I was able to saw off the vent on my Hasegawa and back it with styrene for filling with putty - before the fuselage was closed! Normally I find these things out about a day late.

Can't wait to see your build come along.

-BD-

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Posted by allan on Wednesday, February 17, 2016 11:19 PM

Youre off to a great start, Murph.

No bucks, no Buck Rogers

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Posted by murph on Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:38 PM

rangerj

I have seen Canadian Sabres in active service and several Sabres in the air show circuit and none had modern ejection seats. I had this very discussion with one of the owner/pilots of an F-86-F  and he stated that he did not know of any Sabres with upgraded or "modern" ejection seats. Ejection would be a last resort and only if the aircraft could not otherwise be saved (re aircraft in private hands).

Thanks for the information regarding the origin of this kit (Hasagawa). I passed on it because I thought it was a re-issue of the old Monogram kit. I also love the early jets and the F-86 and the A-4 are my favorites. I'll be watching the build and keep up the good work.

All...thanks for your kind words, gents.

The Vintage Wings of Canada Sabre flown as 'Hawk One' has an ejection seat from a Tutor (Snowbirds).  Although newer than the seat supplied by Canadair when it was built (but not by much!), I think VWoC decided to upgrade from the original for safety's sake.

As for the Sabre in Luftwaffe service, many of the Sabre 6's were sent to Dornier to have Martin-Baker seats installed.  As the M-B seats were taller than the originals, it also necessitated Dornier re-working the canopy opening system to ride on rails that elevated the canopy when it was being opened and closed.

My uncle was killed flying a Sabre in France in June 1953.  Long story short, he was returning to base after a training flight in bad weather.  Although it can't be confirmed for certain, he most likely became spatially disoriented in the thick cloud and haze and when he came out of the cloud / haze he was nose down and headed for terra firma.  He ejected at about 700 ft AGL and died when he couldn't get himself out of the seat.  A safe ejection back then usually required a height of about 3,000 ft AGL as you manually had to get yourself out of the seat, unlike the systems used on today's ejection seats.  His skull was crushed between the headrest and the ground.  He was seven weeks shy of his 22nd birthday.

http://www.ejection-history.org.uk/Country-By-Country/Canada/CLOUTIER_Guy_Sabre_fatal/Cloutier_Guy.htm

And when I found out this was a re-issue of the Hasegawa kit, I bought four or five of them as they were about half the price of the Hasegawa offerings.  Can't go wrong with that!

Mike

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Posted by rangerj on Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:07 PM

I have seen Canadian Sabres in active service and several Sabres in the air show circuit and none had modern ejection seats. I had this very discussion with one of the owner/pilots of an F-86-F  and he stated that he did not know of any Sabres with upgraded or "modern" ejection seats. Ejection would be a last resort and only if the aircraft could not otherwise be saved (re aircraft in private hands).

Thanks for the information regarding the origin of this kit (Hasagawa). I passed on it because I thought it was a re-issue of the old Monogram kit. I also love the early jets and the F-86 and the A-4 are my favorites. I'll be watching the build and keep up the good work.

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Posted by yardbird78 on Wednesday, February 17, 2016 11:43 AM

You're off to a great start.  I really like the ejection seat.

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Posted by Jim Barton on Wednesday, February 17, 2016 11:43 AM

I've always liked the 1950s fighter jets. 

"Whaddya mean 'Who's flying the plane?!' Nobody's flying the plane!"

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DONE!!! - Revell of Germany Canadair CL-13 Sabre 6
Posted by murph on Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:55 AM

Greetings friends.

Never posted a WIP here before but there's a first time for everything.  Seeing the works of others has prompted me to illustrate this build for you - so you can learn what (and what NOT) to do if you decide to build one of these kits.

This kit is a re-pop of the Hasegawa Sabre family.  It can either be built as a Canadair Sabre 6 or as a North American F-86F-40 Sabre.

This is the 48th scale Revell of Germany Canadair CL-13 Sabre 6 as flown by JG 71 'Richtofen' of the Luftwaffe in 1961.  It will be finished with kit decals.  Not sure how they'll turn out but we'll see.  Paints will be Model Master enamels and Alclad II.  I'm not sure if this Sabre was ever retrofitted with the Martin-Baker ejection seat.  I'm building it as if it hadn't been.

Sabre 5's delivered to the Luftwaffe carried the standard RCAF three colour camouflage; RAF Dark Green / RAF Dark Greay and RAF PRU Blue.  The Sabre 6's delivered from Canadair we natiral metal and the camo colours were applied by the Luftwaffe.  Research shows that the colours I should use are RAL 6014 (Gelboliv), RAL 7012 (Basaltgrau) and 7001 (Silbergrau).  The cockpits were painted in FS 36231 by Canadair.

The only aftermarket I'll be using in this build is a Legends seat.  As noted by Theuns in his Sabre build (and the approximately 20 or so others that I've built!), the kit seat is sorely lacking detail.  The seat will be installed after painting the camo colours. 

The rest of the cockpit are kit parts including decals for the IP.  Painted flat black and clear coated with Future.  Kit decal applied over Future and a healthy dose of Solvaset used to get things to settle down over the raised detail.  Various knobs were picked out with red paint on a toothpick.  There is ample room atop the intake trunking to superglue some weight to prevent the kit from being a tail dragger.  I didn't paint the interior of the intake trunk or exhaust nozzle.  I use the kit supplied FOD covers painted red.  It provides a nice contrast and a bit of extra colour.

Also, all Canadair Sabres were built without the bump / bulge at the vent on the top of the fuselage by the vertical tail.  To model a true Canadair Sabre, this bump has to be sanded off.  Further, the Hasegawa Sabre family has a vent moulded on the right side of the aircraft (as viewed from above) and this vent is unique to Japanese Sabres.  I had to sand off both bumps and vents.  The vent is filled with styrene, sanded, filler applied and sanded smooth with 400, 800, 2000 grit wet / dry paper.  The bulge was sanded off with various grades of sanding sticks and then smoothed with wet / dry paper.

One of the differences between the Sabre 6 and the F-86F-40 is the length of the wings.  Although both had leading edge slats, the F-40 wing has a 12" extension between the tip of the wing and the end of the aileron.  The Sabre 6 had no 12" extension and the aileron extended all the eay to the wingtip.  In order to model a Sabre 6, you need to cut off the 12" extensions and the glue the Sabre 6 wingtips into place.  RoG provides resin or plastic wingtips for this.  I used resin.  It does take a bit of work to get them right.  I glued the tops to the bottom and used a razor saw to make the cut.  I then CA glued the tips on and applied a bit of accelerator when I was sure I had things where I wanted them.

As for the canopy, I use EZ Masks.  They're made by a company just outside Ottawa.  One of my LHS's carry them and they're great.  Like Eduard, they're pre-cut vinyl.  Here they are masked and primed with FS 36231.

That's it for now.  I look forward to any comments or constructive criticism you might offer.

Thanks for looking.

Mike

Retired and living the dream!

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