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1/48 Monogram Me-262 Completed -- Bringing it back from the dead

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Posted by silentbob33 on Monday, February 13, 2017 11:39 AM
Thanks Bish. Detailing those areas was a lot of fun.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, February 13, 2017 10:33 AM

Despite the issues you have done a really nice job on that. The gun bay and engine really add a nice touch.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Hodakamax on Monday, February 13, 2017 7:58 AM

Hey Bob, I see both sides of the dilemma. Sometimes I just move on to the next model with my newly learned lesson under my belt and learn something from the experience. Another point, at least for me, is that I spent some time doing something constructive (with challenges, good for the brain) and being just a model, it might be time to move on to a brand new Me-262! LOL! I am somewhat of the Devil's Advocate! Any of this help? LOL!

Max

PS--and seriously, the model looks really good visually, I still have the decals!

 

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Posted by silentbob33 on Monday, February 13, 2017 6:31 AM
Thanks for the kind words gents. Max, I keep going back and forth on your offer. Part of me just wants to be done, but the perfectionist in me wants to make this look better than it does.

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Posted by Toshi on Monday, February 13, 2017 3:32 AM

The fruits of your labor looks fantastic!

Toshi

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Posted by Hodakamax on Sunday, February 12, 2017 7:40 PM

Hey Bob, the offer's still good on the new 1/48 Stuka decals that I have. It looks way too cool to file away. Rip that gear off, strip those decals, a bit of Future and I'll send you a set of decals to get that machine flying again!

Max

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Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, February 12, 2017 4:52 PM

Too bad about the gear.  It looks real nice to me.

John

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Posted by silentbob33 on Sunday, February 12, 2017 1:41 PM

I'm calling this one finished.  I have mixed feelings about it.  The scribing isn't that great, but not too bad for my first time.  I realized after I superglued the main landing gear in that I put them in backwards, short of ripping them out and possibly destroying my already fragile decals I decided to live with it.  I didn't replace the broken pitot tube or put on an antenna because I wanted to be done with this project.  The decals on this ruined all motivation for this project.  90% of them fell apart when I tried sliding them off the backing paper, and all of them silvered no matter what I did.  I became afraid of touching the plane after that so I didn't weather it either.  However, I am very happy with the detailing I did on it.  All the wiring in the gun bay, engine, and landing gear bay looks more than good enough for me.  On to the next.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Saturday, February 4, 2017 5:51 PM
Thank you John! I didn't even know what kind of rockets they were and a quick Google search for R4M showed me exactly what you're talking about. With that bit of information I'll be able to get to the finish line quicker than I was hoping for (I hope).

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Posted by jeaton01 on Saturday, February 4, 2017 5:06 PM

The Tamiya kit came with R4M rockets that were under the outboard wings in a sort of washboard plate.  Tamiya called for red brown on the plates with the color for the bottom of the airplane on the front edge.  The R4M rockets color is metallic grey XF-56.  I don't think the 262 ever carried the rocket tubes that were used on the Me-110 and other German fighters that they lobbed into bomber formations.

John

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Posted by silentbob33 on Saturday, February 4, 2017 3:15 PM
Thanks Max, I saw a few pictures that had the RLM 02 bombs, but I wasn't sure. I've seen a dark brown, rust, and the belly color for the rocket rails, and a few different colors for the rockets themselves.

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Posted by Hodakamax on Saturday, February 4, 2017 2:47 PM

On my Tamiya version the bombs should be Tamiya XF-22 RLM grey, The bomb racks match the belly color. Mine shows no rockets nor have I ever seen one with them but does have two RATOG boosters that are XF-63 German grey. 

Max

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Posted by silentbob33 on Saturday, February 4, 2017 2:01 PM
I have a question about ordnance colors. What color would the bombs, rockets, and rocket rails be? I've tried looking online and saw a whole lot of different things.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Friday, February 3, 2017 10:02 PM
Thanks for the encouragement guys. I took a closer look at it when I got home and it doesn't look quite as bad as in the pic. I'll just put it towards the back of the shelf...

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Posted by Hodakamax on Friday, February 3, 2017 7:15 AM

Hey Bob, the project is lookin' good. I rummaged around last night and found a new 1/48 decal set for a Stuka that would have worked but I see this morning that you successfully stuggled through. Good job. 

As for the alignment, my 262 looks the same and yours looks fine. It is a weird shape for sure and I think it's just the viewing angle.

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, February 3, 2017 6:32 AM

I see some very small issues but everything still looks great.  Keep pushing forward, this project is coming along just nicely!

Toshi

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Posted by silentbob33 on Friday, February 3, 2017 5:19 AM
You do make a really good point there John. I was very close to the model when I was trying to realign the broken decals and didn't take a look at it from a ways off. It looked OK when I was up close. Strange how the shape of something can do that.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, February 2, 2017 9:24 PM

I found it hard to see what was straight when I was decaling the 262 I did recently, especially on the aft fuselage.  Odd shapes there to my eye.

John

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Posted by silentbob33 on Thursday, February 2, 2017 9:12 PM
Thanks Mike, that really means a lot. I didn't even notice the misalignment until I uploaded the photos. I thought about trying to fix it but decided against it since almost every decal is in at least six pieces and it took forever to get them lined up as good as they are. All I know for sure is I won't be buying this company's decals again.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Thursday, February 2, 2017 9:02 PM

That still looks good, Bob. Yeah I see a little misalignment, but it's not so bad at all.

Overall, it's looking great.  :)

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by silentbob33 on Thursday, February 2, 2017 8:34 PM

Well I got all the decals on.  They certainly aren't pretty.  I noticed after I took some pictures that some of the decals are tilted or not lined up right.  It's the best I could do with the decals falling apart in the water.  I still need to do some touching up, but I want to seal them first.  And somehow, the red circle on one of the engines disappeared.  It was there the other day and now it's not.  I've also decided not to do a panel line wash or weather since I'm afraid of the decals disintigrating further.  Here's where I'm at.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Thursday, February 2, 2017 6:48 PM
Thanks Mike, I'm going to try to go down and put some more decals on tonight after the kids are in bed. I was going to last night but couldn't work up the motivation. Usually I love doing the decals.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:48 PM

Don't give up! 

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by silentbob33 on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:18 PM
Thanks Redman! Right now I feel like I need all the encouragement I can get with these decals. Every other one I put on tonight shattered. I put them back together as good as I could, but I'm still going to have to do quite a bit of touching up with paint. I'm almost to the point of putting this away. I've always finished a model once I've started but these decals are sucking the fun right out of this project. My scribe job isn't that great, but I'm happy with it since it's my first time, and I'm really happy with the wiring I added. But these decals...ugh.

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Posted by Redman7176 on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 8:56 AM

silentbob33
No promises though, my short term memory is shot.

Me too. Propeller

 

Can't wait to see this one finished. Terrific detail.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Monday, January 30, 2017 8:24 PM
I was really excited to get started on decals tonight and get moving on this project again after grading finals last week and this Authentic Decals sheet is terrible. I've only gotten 11 or so decals on and most have torn or shattered. I tried getting them back together as best as I can, and I'll try to touch them up with paint after they've dried but I'm not feeling very optimistic about them. I'll keep plugging away though and hopefully they turn out looking halfway decent. Wish me luck.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 6:28 PM

Here are the pics of where I'm at.  I'm hoping to start getting decals on this week.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 8:50 AM
I agree with you Max, the fun should trump everything else with modelling. I'm in the middle of planning a "just for the fun of it" build with a cheap kit I picked up at a model show a couple of years ago. I just need to gather up some other kinds of decals for it. I touched up the grauviolett last night but didn't get any pictures as my phone was charging. I'll get some tonight when I get home. My short term memory failed me and I didn't spread around the green and gray mottling, but I'm still happy with how it looks.

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Posted by Hodakamax on Monday, January 23, 2017 12:51 PM

Hey Bob, after building several WWII German aircraft and researching each and every model, I'm noticing that there is usually no two painted alike and perhaps the painters started with a new pallet each time or it was painted how the famous pilot wanted it. Unless you're building a one of a kind aircraft I've stopped worrying about it and just paint them "German like." or like it is my own personal aircraft. Almost every build I try to imagine how I would have it personally painted now and then. I usually use up all the "kill" decals and sometimes just use the best features of the day combined for the best overall look as a representation for the museum. I know, some of you will say that it's not historicly accurate but it's just an imagination thing and that's how I would have marked my personal aircraft of the day. OK, most are fairly accurate but it's how I try to connect with history and it is fun which is what modelling is all about! 

Der Blue Max

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