F-4G question

I can't say Ive ever heard of this before. It sure isn't represented in any phantom model kits or aftermarket items. AFAIK all long nose Phantoms use the same pitot tube. Got any pics of an F-4E and G together?

Yes, but no photos that close. I suspect it may be a mod made to F-4Es when they were updated as well as they went thru overhalls during the lifespan of the airframe. I know that some AM companies make replacement longer pitot tubes in brass and I believe in resin also.

Here is a paired up G & E with the E in the background

G & E hunter killer team

My F-4 Phantom "reference bible",  F-4 Phantom- Spirit in the Skies, lists the longer PT as one of the mods made to the G. But has no specific info on that point.

I pulled my copy out and saw the same thing, but they made no distinction in the line drawing. I looked at a another couple of books to no avail. I don't see the difference in the photos I looked at,  and knowing that it shared some systems with the "E", I would keep it the same. 

Several reviews that I have read of my current project, the Revell 1/32 F-4G say that the PT is too short and needs to be replaced. Now I am doing all I can to avoid using AM, but I don't like the kit part because with my luck I will break it off and lose it in some final phase. So I have figured out a way to make from scratch stuff I have a more durable one, BUT, having the correct length would be a plus...

I have figured out how to measure an approximate proper length off of photos... but that will be a case of close enough.

It is... too much down slope and not enough upslope on the bare radome. It looks like a witches nose when vowed in profile. But once the chin fairing is in place it is not so noticeable.

stik

I have the replacement metal long pt made by HobbyDecal of Korea. It measures 7/8" in length. I can post a picture if it helps.

Is that a 1/32 part? If so, yes a photo of the part alongside a ruler would be perfect.

Yep it's 1/32. SB has it.

plasticjunkie

Yep it's 1/32. SB has it.

 

Thank you sir! Very much appreciated! I am avoiding any kit specific AM on this project, but stuff from my spares bin and  scratch work is fair game.

I have the big Revell G that I got st HL with the 40% coupon for $36.

I also got an Avionix resin E pit for it  cheap. The E and G pits are similar so thats close enough for me

The E pit will work fine for the front, but the rear seat is where most of the mods are located. The IP and the right console having more stuff for the "Bear". The kit cockpit is okay, can use lots of dressing up. Especially the seats and the sidewalls above the consoles. I have done a good amount of scratch work in the 'pit on mine.

Yeah I am just getting to the point where I can see how big it is going to be...

Yea it's purty big indeed. The ROG 1/32 Uhu is even bigger.

In my 1/32 stash, I have a few more big birds: F-14, F-15, F-117. Each is at least as big as, if not bigger in one dimension or another, than a Phantom. As well as some other fast movers that are close, but not quite so large... I need more display space!

I took a picture of an F-4G at an air show way back. I'll see if I can find it. It was a film camera so no digital stuff until I scan it. 

seasick

I took a picture of an F-4G at an air show way back. I'll see if I can find it. It was a film camera so no digital stuff until I scan it. 

 

No need to knock yourself out on this. I am going to do a little photo interpreting and measuring in my days off and compare the rresults with the photo of the brass PT above. If it's close enough, it will be good enough for me.

tempestjohnny

Geez I just got a 48th G. Forgot how big the Rhino is. You guys doing 32nd must have a bigger bench then me.....

 

I can't vouch for a bigger bench... this project is pushing my space capacity...

1/72 is 1" to 6'

1/48 is 1" to 4'

1/36 is 1" to 3'

1/35 is 1" to 2' 11"

1/32 is 1" to 2' 8"

Who came up with the last two scales and why?

1/32 is easy- 1/32 of an inch equals one inch in 1/32 scale. Since inches on most rulers and scales are broken down in those increments, that made measuremenuts easy for us non metric types in the USA. Just like 1/48, 1/24, 1/72, 1/96, etc.

The last TWO. They don't fit the pattern above. I'm also aware that scale is a scalar mesurement.

In my mind they do. 1/72, 1inch is 72 scale inches or six feet. Not so much the actual inch breakdown, but a simple increment for larger objects. 1/96 is just a doubling of 1/48. One inch equals 96 inches or eight feet in scale. In my mind 1/32 is actually the easiest to translate from actual to scale when doing scratch work, but the others have their good points also.  The other oddball scales such as 1/30, 1/40, & 1/50, translate easier in metric. As do the survivors of 1/35, 1/350, 1/400, 1/600, and 1/700