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Cal Fire Grumman S-2T Turbo Tracker COMPLETE

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    October 2009
Posted by Ultra on Sunday, January 14, 2018 1:31 AM

Great subject!  I heard these guys a lot over the radio frequency in Sacramento when I flight instructing over the summer.  Great build!

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    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Sunday, January 14, 2018 1:47 AM

Thanks ultra.   Another Sacramento dude

Thanks,

John

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    June 2014
  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:22 AM

Whoo Hoo !

 Now that's a beautiful Job on an unusual subject ! Planes like this and others are seemingly forgotten by most modelers . Great Build and impressive finish on this project .

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Sunday, January 14, 2018 3:29 PM

Thanks TB.  Ive been doing more non millitary birds...though still love the fighters 

Thanks,

John

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    June 2008
Posted by lewbud on Saturday, January 20, 2018 1:41 AM

Nice job with that KeavDog! I've got to get me at least one of those conversions.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Saturday, January 20, 2018 2:18 AM

Thanks lewbud.   Its a really well cast conversion.  And the draw decals are great.

Thanks,

John

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    May 2004
  • From: Land of Lakes
Posted by cbaltrin on Saturday, January 20, 2018 4:23 AM

Nice work!

On the Bench: Too Much

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    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Saturday, January 20, 2018 5:22 AM

Thanks cbaltrin - a labor of love.  She's not a contest model, but represents the overall livery.  Cal Fire must have spent some time on making this bird look good!

Thanks,

John

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    December 2003
  • From: 37deg 40.13' N 95deg 29.10'W
Posted by scottrc on Saturday, January 20, 2018 6:30 AM

Wow, great finish. Nice representation.

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    August 2018
Posted by johns1111 on Saturday, August 4, 2018 1:27 AM
Hi! I hope you are still around. I found your post by accident and originally wanted to build a 1:48 version of a fire plane - inspired by the current wild fires up north in California. I am as you are in SoCal (Orange), but I know people there. So after reading your posts I contacted the seller of the conversion kit and I am getting ready to try to repeat your awesome model with a different tanker number. I was hoping you are still around in case I run into any tricky questions with the conversion. Your model looks perfect! I know you used decals for the red, but I am practice spraying on a discarded model this weekend to see if I can get the big stripes right.
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    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Saturday, August 11, 2018 5:32 PM

Cool - be sure to post your build thread.  Are you doing the 1/48 Kinetic S-2F?  Where do you get the engines from?  Draw decals has a 1/48 set as well as the 1/72 set.

So I was looking at my local bi-weekly publication and with all the fires around town, the cover is an in flight action shot of the exact plane I did.  Kinda cool.

Thanks,

John

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    August 2018
Posted by johns1111 on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:02 AM

Wow, that is satisfying that you even found a magazine showing your exact plane.

I wanted to get a tripled of all the planes of one airport. I started planning out 1/48 with the Bronco and tried to find all the pieces for the two S2s. I reached out to the person you got the conversion kit from and he has it only in 1/72 but not available. I may scale down to 1/72 but my goal is to get the lead plane and both tankers done. 

Once I have something to show (and not embarassed about) I will open a thread and show my progress :)

 

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    February 2005
  • From: Cleveland, OH
Posted by RadMax8 on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 10:32 AM

Keavdog,

Sorry I didn’t see this the first time around. You did a magnificent job on this. I’m glad I could help out in some small way. Very cool with the magazine cover of your plane, maybe frame and display it?

JayJay, what decal set did you get, by chance?

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    June 2018
Posted by ARDVARK003 on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 10:38 AM
Hi John, I went to Wolf to order the conversion kit but I can't find the way to order. Don't understand their site. Any tips please. Thanks AARDVARK
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    June 2018
Posted by ARDVARK003 on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 11:04 AM

Hi John, Somehow my question for you ended up on page 3. Don't understand Wolf's site.  Any tips?  Thanks AARDVARK

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    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 11:12 PM

Thanks for the kind words.  I'm doing the bronco next.  I have the academy kit and draw decals.  Unfortunately its from an older style of cal fire markings but it's still cool.

Aardvark Send him an email at oder@wolfmodel.de. 

Found here in the right column: http://www.modellwolf.de/conversion/conversion.html

Let him know what you want.  He was very responsive and I cant say enough about the quality of the casting.  

Thanks,

John

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    June 2014
  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:29 PM

Okay Now !

 Listen here Toshi ! The car that served me best for much of it's life was a 2003 Kia Sedona L.X. Fully loaded . Boy do I miss her ! Note - They can take a T-Bone hit without hurting you much !

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    June 2014
  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:31 PM

Hi K/D :

 Question . How does this A/C refill ? Does it have to land and fill up  ? The reason I ask is it looks like that's the only way she gets filled up ! By the way , beautiful job on that model !

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    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Friday, August 17, 2018 3:35 AM

Thanks TB it was a fun project.  They have to land to refill.  There's a couple pics in the thread that show the refill nozzle on the tail of the plane on page 1.  The attack bases store the Phos-Chek retardant.  Good operations video here (for a different fire attack base) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8LT_v22arU

 

Thanks,

John

  • Member since
    May 2013
  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Friday, August 17, 2018 9:48 AM

Another first class WIP totally missed by me. Boo Hoo

What a nice job you did on this CalFire aircraft. It's neat that you have two living at your home airport.

YesYesYes, and thank you for sharing this WIP of an interesting model, John.

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, August 18, 2018 8:08 PM

keavdog

Watching those tankers fly is something else. 
Particularly compared to the C-2 I've seen--which use a lot more flap.  But, those were loaded differently, and had radials, not turboprops.

The cockpits all seem a bit topsy-turvey with most of the center console stuff in the center overhead.  Those CalFire pilots make it look easy to manage that much aircraft single-handed, too.  Kudos to them.

Kudos also to this WIP.  Outstanding.

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    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Sunday, August 19, 2018 12:56 AM

Thanks Greg.  Thanks CapnMac.  I was thinking the same thing, one hand on the flight controls and I assume the overhead is thrust/pitch and perhaps tank controls.  And the way the fly nape of the earth over such conditions!  We really appreciate all the fire crews out here.

Thanks,

John

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, August 19, 2018 4:42 PM

If I remember the cockpit layout (and it's been a very, very long time)

The controls are Landing Gear; Propellor pitch, Throttle, flaps.  At least on a C-2.

C-2 used radials, so the supercharger was geared to the shaft; flight power was from the turbo,  So, you could use a "set" throttle, and vary blade pitch   Turboprops run better at a fixed throttle setting, too, so blade pitch is good management tool.

I wondered about how they triggered the drop.  Problem being there's not a lot of good places on the yoke to put a thumb switch.  So, it's probably a switch in the overhead.

Or not.

  • Member since
    August 2018
Posted by johns1111 on Monday, August 20, 2018 1:11 AM

keavdog
I have the academy kit and draw decals.  Unfortunately its from an older style of cal fire markings but it's still cool.

Same here, as I could not get the conversion kit for the S2 I got the academy model first. I ordered decals for the S2 and some testors decals for printing. I sort of how the Cal Fire decals of the S2 will fit in size because you cannot print white. My goal is to get the complete set of the Bronco and the two S2s of the airport done, but I will take my time with it.

For the S2 conversion kit I actually found another supplier also who even has the nozzle at the back for the fire detergend refill. But I have not received my order yet, so I cannot tell yet if they are legit.

 Looks like my question sort of revived this thread. It is a beautiful model.... btw. did you tint the two roof windows of the S2?

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Monday, August 20, 2018 1:16 AM

I tinted the windows with tamiya clear blue.  Post up that conversion kit when you get it!

What I did was cut off the bulb and insert a small piece of brass tubing at the approximate angle then cut a small  piece of sprue and painted it red for the cap.

BTW - put a lot of weight in the nose.  I thought I added enough and she's still a tail sitter - hence the clear sprue tail stand.

Thanks,

John

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