Airfix 1/72nd Phantom FG.1 Completed (ish) page 3

After a week away it was good to get back to the Phantom. The week has been spent masking painting and repeat. So its almost ready for decals. First was to finish off the bare metal areas.

Once masked the white undrsides were painted and then the top. I also added some lighter patches to the top to try and replicate the look i have seen in photo's.

As i unmasked i noticed i have a few areas to touch up as well as the black nose, so will be a few more days before i can add the decals.

Also got the tractor put together.

Then painted and decaled. The pics don't really show the proper yellow, think i need to work on my camera settings.

Thats all for now.

GAF

 

Devil Dawg

Unfortunately, we've been seeing that little tag on a lot of kits here in the USA for years now. Boeing has to get their share of the money, too. Which, I guess, is only fair, as it is their copyrighted, proprietary designs that are being copied for use my the modeling comanies. So far, and I know I'm probably wrong about this, I've only seen Boeing licensing stickers on models. I can't recall seeing any other companys' sticker on a kit. Anybody else ever see another company's licensing sticker on a kit? 

 

You ever wonder if the manufacturers that supplied all these parts that Boeing slapped together to make this aircraft get a cut of those royalties?

Gary 

Nope, not ever. Too many things in this world to worry about, so I go by Matthew 4:34 - (paraphrased by me) "Don't worry about anything - it won't add one minute to your life".

Gary Mason

Thanks Toshi.

jeaton01

What, no photos from the summit of Olympus?

 

I think that might be the next trip, she is already talking about Athens.

As alway’s, excellent work Bish!

Your friend, Toshi

What, no photos from the summit of Olympus?

Thanks PJ. It seemed the logical choice and will be easier to mask that off than mask off the rest later.

Looking good Bish. I also shoot the NMF areas first to get a smooth finish and tape things up after curing.

Just a quick update. Got the construction finished minus the wing tips which i am putting in the folded position so have left off while i get the final bit done and everything else will be painted before fitting.

I wanted to get the rear bare metal areas painted first. So after getting the suggestions from PJ, i primed the rear and then added a couple of thin coats of Alaclad Aluminium.

And that will be it for now. The better half and i and off to Italy on Mon, visiting the ruins of Pompeii and Herculaneum and climbing Vesuvius. So i'll be able to mask and finish off the bare metal next weekend and then geting to the scheme.

Thanks for the input guys, i'll deffinetly aim to go light here, don't want to over do it.

Phil_H

 

plasticjunkie

The F-4's were also nicknamed by their pilots Old Smokey for that reason.

 

 

From the videos I've seen, the Spey engined UK Phantoms don't seem to be as smoky as their J-79 engined cousins. That might be a consideration as to how sooty you make the tail area.

 

Yes that could be a possibility with the Brit engine although I have seen some very nasty and dirty Brit F-4s too. I think moderation is key here, used but not abused. For that reason my US Navy Phantoms have light staining.

plasticjunkie

The F-4's were also nicknamed by their pilots Old Smokey for that reason.

From the videos I've seen, the Spey engined UK Phantoms don't seem to be as smoky as their J-79 engined cousins. That might be a consideration as to how sooty you make the tail area.

Thats good to know that i won't need to worry about being to precise. I have a good selection of Alclad Aluminiums as well as the other colours, so i should be able to get a good mix.

I am hoping to get that area primed and the first on by the weekend as the Mrs and i are off to Italy on Monday, so it will be ready to do the rest when we get back.

From the pictures I have seen no two Phantoms have the same nmf effects so one is pretty open to variation on this. The center panel on the elevators appears as darker on most mictures and the larger panels look much lighter. Those afterburners and the smoke stains on that metal really did a number in that area. I have even seen pictures of Nam era F-4's having staining on the lower part of the elevators from the turbine smoke. 

The F-4's were also nicknamed by their pilots Old Smokey for that reason.

I thought you would now this PJ, thats just the look i am going for. I have the nessacery Alclad colours,so that won't be a problem.

Cheers PJ.

I took a couple of quick shots of one of my Phantoms :

I used a variety of colors from Alclad and AK Extreme Metal. For the darker areas I used Alclad steel and the lower nmf subject to the afterburner heat I banded burnt metal and clear blue for the heat descoloration. The top areas got AK Extreme Metal Aluminum and picked off panels with duraluminium.

Colors are approximate and differed from each aircraft depending on weathering, etc.

Guys, i am looking for some advice here. Does anyone have any suggestions for the colours to use for the bare metal areas at the rear of the Phantom. There appear to be 2 shades from what i can tell.

Airfix suggest silver and gun metal, but of course they are stuck to useing Humbrol colours. I did some looking and found some people suggesting titanium, but not sure if thats the lighter or darker area.

I would mainly use Alclad for bare metal but am open to suggestions.

Thanks in advance.

For those who may be interested, a review of this kit is now up on the site and will be in next months mag. I am glad to see he did somthing i neglected. Paiting the inside of the air intake dark grey before putting it together will be a lot easier than trying to mask in there after assembly.

GAF

 

 

Devil Dawg

Unfortunately, we've been seeing that little tag on a lot of kits here in the USA for years now. Boeing has to get their share of the money, too. Which, I guess, is only fair, as it is their copyrighted, proprietary designs that are being copied for use my the modeling comanies. So far, and I know I'm probably wrong about this, I've only seen Boeing licensing stickers on models. I can't recall seeing any other companys' sticker on a kit. Anybody else ever see another company's licensing sticker on a kit?

 

 

 

You ever wonder if the manufacturers that supplied all these parts that Boeing slapped together to make this aircraft get a cut of those royalties?

Gary

 

Thats a good point. Wounder if those ejection seats are copyrighted.

Devil Dawg

 

 

Bish

I did notice somthing on ther box i have never seen before that i found interesting. Official licence from Boeing.

 

 

 

Unfortunately, we've been seeing that little tag on a lot of kits here in the USA for years now. Boeing has to get their share of the money, too. Which, I guess, is only fair, as it is their copyrighted, proprietary designs that are being copied for use my the modeling comanies. So far, and I know I'm probably wrong about this, I've only seen Boeing licensing stickers on models. I can't recall seeing any other companys' sticker on a kit. Anybody else ever see another company's licensing sticker on a kit?

Looking forward to seeing your completed Phantom, Bish! Don't forget to apply the decal with the official license to the Phantom.......... heeheeheeheehee!

Gary Mason

 

 

 

So this is somthing your used to. I have not noticed it before, i do have an F-15 kit in the stash, i will have to check that now. Though thats an older hase kit so it might pre date this. Its not somthing i have ever noticed.

And ye, i will have to check the decal sheet for that, wouldn't want Boeing chaseing me for copyright infringment.

Greg

Thanks for filling me in on various things Airfix, per my question, Bish.

 

Your welcomew Greg, and if your interested, i plan on running an Airfix GB next year to mark 80 years since the company was formed. A good excuse for me to build a few more and make up for all these years i haven't built any.

plasticjunkie

That is looking so good Bish! That little fella packs a lot of detail. That pit looks awesome.

Hey I went to a local model show today and as I was about to leave one of the vendors spotted my Phantom T Shirt and asked me if I wanted to buy his FG.1 kit. He had a hasegawa 1/48 (kit #09331) FG1 brand new and sealed for....................$10!! Man I grabbed it so fast that you never saw my arms move! 

 

Cheers PJ, ye, there is a lot there, its a good sized box and its pretty crammed.

I saw your post of the little haul. Maybe i should start walking round with a 251 or Stuka T-Shirt

Devil Dawg

Unfortunately, we've been seeing that little tag on a lot of kits here in the USA for years now. Boeing has to get their share of the money, too. Which, I guess, is only fair, as it is their copyrighted, proprietary designs that are being copied for use my the modeling comanies. So far, and I know I'm probably wrong about this, I've only seen Boeing licensing stickers on models. I can't recall seeing any other companys' sticker on a kit. Anybody else ever see another company's licensing sticker on a kit?

You ever wonder if the manufacturers that supplied all these parts that Boeing slapped together to make this aircraft get a cut of those royalties?

Gary

Bish

I did notice somthing on ther box i have never seen before that i found interesting. Official licence from Boeing.

Unfortunately, we've been seeing that little tag on a lot of kits here in the USA for years now. Boeing has to get their share of the money, too. Which, I guess, is only fair, as it is their copyrighted, proprietary designs that are being copied for use my the modeling comanies. So far, and I know I'm probably wrong about this, I've only seen Boeing licensing stickers on models. I can't recall seeing any other companys' sticker on a kit. Anybody else ever see another company's licensing sticker on a kit?

Looking forward to seeing your completed Phantom, Bish! Don't forget to apply the decal with the official license to the Phantom.......... heeheeheeheehee!

Gary Mason

Thanks for filling me in on various things Airfix, per my question, Bish.

That is looking so good Bish! That little fella packs a lot of detail. That pit looks awesome.

Hey I went to a local model show today and as I was about to leave one of the vendors spotted my Phantom T Shirt and asked me if I wanted to buy his FG.1 kit. He had a hasegawa 1/48 (kit #09331) FG1 brand new and sealed for....................$10!! Man I grabbed it so fast that you never saw my arms move! 

Thanks redle. I am trying not to think of those at the moment

She's looking good Bish.  

I'd be dreading those decals.    

Cheers for looking in and commenting guys.

Pawel, yes, the G stands for Ground Attack, but it seems the system has changed over time as GA iwas also used for Ground Attack. buit was changed to just G. Wiki has a good list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_military_aircraft_designation_systems

Greg, i have been avoiding Airfix for a number of years, i suppose i was getting used to high detailed kits. But since they were bought out by Hornby in 2006 they seem to have had a re-birth and after reading a number of reviews on different kits i started buying them and have built up quite a selection. I have just been waiting for the right chance to build one. Certainly a vast improvment over the kits i grew up with in the 80's.

gary, ye, your not wrong. makes the canberra i did last year look like a piece of cake.

Phil, also hard to believe its Airfix, i am certainly impressed with the detail, the fit issues are a very slight down side but nothing that can't be over come.