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Posted by mawright20 on Monday, June 22, 2020 1:07 PM
Richard Bong?
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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, June 22, 2020 1:11 PM

No cigar, but right theatre of the war

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, June 22, 2020 1:41 PM

Sounds like something Yeager would do, but the rest of the question doesn't fit.

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Posted by seastallion53 on Monday, June 22, 2020 2:14 PM

Charles lindberg

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, June 22, 2020 3:34 PM

No, but two of you have the right aircraft he is known for.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 10:34 AM

Just to keep it going I 'd say the P-38 was the common airplane, but I don't know the pilot. 

John

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 11:32 AM

John-  you are correct.

He started in P-39's, got two kills before being assigned to the 38's and getting another 1 1/2.  After his tour, back to the USA.  Later had a tour in China (claimed 3 downed or damaged), was shot down and saved by the Chinese from being captured.  Had the Japanese caught him, he would have ended up in more pieces than a jigsaw puzzle.

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Posted by lowfly on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 12:42 PM

Who was the first pilot tp shoot down a jet fighter in combat?

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 2:31 PM

lowfly, you'll have to answer goldhammer's question before you can pose yours.Big Smile

John

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 12:46 PM

He was born in 1917, passed away in 2001.  Buried about 7 miles from the site in question and about 20 miles from his lifelong home, except for his time in the military.

The "new" highway bridge is named in his honor, something the state does for significant people in the state's history.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:04 PM

I've already guessed wrong so I'm out...still it's a fun subject.

In 1959, an SAC pilot flew a B-47 under the Mackinac Bridge.

Grounded for life.

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Posted by DJ on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:37 PM

Was it Rex Barber?  And the Japanese would have been VERY upset to learn that he had been on the shooter team that downed Adm Yamamoto's "Betty", and most likely the actual pilot that downed Yamamoto's plane.  

I am currently building the Tamiya 1/48 scale model of Barbers P-38, which is why I luckly stumbled on this question.  

Hopefully I will live to be 280, that should be enough time to finish building my stash of models.

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:59 PM

I would not consider your post an answer because of the phrasing, just more of a thought.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 2:02 PM

This is a tough question. Do a search for "flew under a bridge" and it looks like every hot shot has at one time!

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 2:09 PM

I've been using search so I'm out, but I think I know which bridges they were.

Got it! 

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 2:15 PM

Hint: Goldhammer's current location is a factor.

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 2:36 PM

Quite possibly, but there is another member here who is even closer.

You have to be in an almost 90* bank and pulling hard when under the rail bridge or you will be a decoration on the canyon wall.

DJ
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Posted by DJ on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 2:39 PM

Rec Barber?

Hopefully I will live to be 280, that should be enough time to finish building my stash of models.

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Posted by NucMedTech on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 7:34 PM

Alright, alright it's Luke Skywalker at beggar's canyon. Lol, I really have no idea.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 8:22 PM

I'm going to guess Robin Olds, cause he flew both and is the kind of guy who would do that while smoking a cigar.  Kind of this country's Adolf Galland.  Did he fly under a bridge too?

John

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 8:36 PM

John- Not Olds.

Above is a pic of the rail bridge taken from just below the highway bridge.  Note the sharp bend in the canyon, as seen by the greenery below.

 The canyon is about 600' wide and 400' deep where the pic was taken

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 9:17 PM

Yeah, I know it wasn't Olds, he wasn't in the Pacific in WW II.  But maybe he did and didn't get caught!

John

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DJ
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Posted by DJ on Thursday, June 25, 2020 6:19 PM

I believe the answer is Rex Barber.  I am aware of Lt. Barber by reading Bruce Gamble's "Fortress Rabual".  Lt Barber was one of 4 in the shooter (or killer team) of a larger group that utilized the compromised code of the Japanese messages to intercept Adm Yamamoto "Betty" bomber in April 1943.  The mission was of course successful and Yamamoto was killed over Bouganville.  I am currently building the Tamiya 1/48 scale P38F with the marking of Barbers plane.  

Hopefully I will live to be 280, that should be enough time to finish building my stash of models.

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:37 PM

Last hint......

He was a major player in one of the most famous missions of the war in the PTO.

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Posted by M4Shermanmodeler on Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:57 PM

Rex Barber?

Tim-M4Shermanmodeler

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, June 25, 2020 8:14 PM

That sounds promising!

John

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Posted by ikar01 on Thursday, June 25, 2020 8:15 PM

No idea of a name but what aboiut one of the guys that took P-38s after Yamato when he was on a inspection tour in a Betty?

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, June 25, 2020 8:16 PM

Yeah, he was canyon running after a Betty!

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, June 25, 2020 8:37 PM

M4 ...correct.  Any thought about the location of the bridges in question?

As an aside the official record gave him 1/2 credit on Yamamoto's plane and the assist on the other.  Inspection of the crash site and bullet damage much later supposedly proved he was the one who downed it, but the AF would not change the record.  That was back in the 90's.

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Posted by M4Shermanmodeler on Thursday, June 25, 2020 9:10 PM

So I guess I'm up...

Here's one from my "personal heroes" file. Name this aviator.

He joined the US Navy in 1937; became a Naval Aviator in 1939. Initially he was assigned to dive bombers and flew the SBD Dauntless.

While flying anti-torpedo patrol near Yorktown in May 1942 he was attacked by three Japanese A6M Zeros. Calling upon all his skill and instincts he used his SBD's strengths to shoot down all three, an incredible accomplishment.

Transferring to fighters, he was flying CAP with AG10 from Enterprise at Santa Cruz in October 1942. Spotting a formation of B5N "Kate" torpedo bombers approaching Enterprise he led his section to the attack. Personally shooting down five, he completely disrupted their runs, and was credited by most on the scene with saving the ship. He is the winner of three Navy Crosses, the only man to win the Navy Cross for both bombing and aerial combat, and later commanded the USS Constellation.

Who was this supremely gifted aviator?

 

Tim-M4Shermanmodeler

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